dubstep - what direction are we heading?

[Harkat]

seriously it seems like every time a bro is saying how much they like dubstep it always goes something like "Well datsik and doctor p are probably my favorites, but I can also really appreciate "deeper" "pure" dubstep like skream and benga"

Without fail.

Nah man it's "My favorite is Nero but I also like the chillstep stuff like Burial"

[Sexual_Chocolate]

nah scope had it bang on the first time round

[eelko]

i think it's still going strong and going to continue to go strong. at least in the underground it seems to still be alive and well. people will move on but new people will emerge and continue the scene with new sounds and new hopes. i left for a bit but came back and am re energized for creating some new sounds with dubstep influence.

i've gotten really bored lately with the whole "burner conscious bass music" all sounding the same thinking they are being deep. glitch hop now seems to be the new brostep and the true dubsteppers will be able to enjoy dubstep in peace now.

[charles1]

I think that benga's departure and skream's distractions are a sign of something (what that something is, I do not know). Dubstep is unattractive to potential new fans. the attitude around the genre is that new sounds aren't welcome and that new fans are posers and we don't want em. i think that dubstep would be a lot better off without these elitist hipsters scaring off all potential new fans.

honestly guys, get over this brostep bullshit. do you think mala, coki, and loefah are sitting around saying "man do I hate these damn brosteppers!" no, they're not. they're over it.

[SCope13]

wow youre so above it all. congrats.

the attitude around the genre is that new sounds aren't welcome and that new fans are posers and we don't want em.

this is bullshit

i think that dubstep would be a lot better off without these elitist hipsters scaring off all potential new fans.

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[topmo3]

buncha useless speculation on bullshit topics

[Geey]

buncha useless speculation on bullshit topics

[rorz9992]

Knew OP would have <10 posts when I saw the title.

me too, lol'd hard

[Sexual_Chocolate]

I think that dubstep is not growing anymore and might even be on its decline (as evidenced by benga's departure and skream's distractions), and this is because it is unattractive to potential new fans. the attitude around the genre is that new sounds aren't welcome and that new fans are posers and we don't want em. i think that dubstep would be a lot better off without these elitist hipsters scaring off all potential new fans.

honestly guys, get over this brostep bullshit. do you think mala, coki, and loefah are sitting around saying "man do I hate these damn brosteppers!" no, they're not. they're over it.

wut.

think you need to have a read of some of the older threads matey.

[DJoe]

the attitude around the genre is that new sounds aren't welcome and that new fans are posers and we don't want em. i think that dubstep would be a lot better off without these elitist hipsters scaring off all potential new fans.

honestly guys, get over this brostep bullshit. do you think mala, coki, and loefah are sitting around saying "man do I hate these damn brosteppers!" no, they're not. they're over it.

Don't really see how this is true considering the sheer number of producers from other genres who've made dubstep in the past that sounds nothing like mala, coki etc. and have come from other genres.

Look at Martyn, kryptic minds, mark pritchard, etc.

then you've got the whole '130' sound from 2 years ago that was embraced by the dubstep community and heavily influenced by dubstep but sounded nothing like mala etc.

e.g. fantastic mr fox, blawan, joe, sully, scratcha dva, cooly g etc.

These lot were all newcomeres who took the dubstep sound and made innovative music that was different to original dubstep and were embraced by the dubstep community.

The stuff people call brostep wasn't embraced because it wasn't good. notice how good tearout (jakes etc.) is also embraced.
People have an elitist attitude because it is in fact brostep that scared people off dubstep

[Muncey]

Okay what a few guys have been doing recently isn't going to decide where the scene is going. There are still tons of the old school artist plus a huge magnitude of new guys (thanks to the internet) that are pushing the sound that is known as dubstep. Also deadmouse is not somebody that I would give the time of day when think about the future of dubstep or even house music.

just a few guys? benga and skream are just a couple o' guys? they aren't the face of non-brostep-dubstep? they aren't the most influential of the most-mainstream-but-not-true-mainstream-but-still-mainstream non-brostep-non-mid-range-but-still-technically-mid-range-if-you-mean-like-the-frequency-but-not-like-"mid range"-mid-range dubstep artists? lol

bottom line: skream and benga are not just a couple of guys!!!!

LOL m8 I can't even look at you only Jah can help you now

The only thing that will 'kill' dubstep are conversations like this. No good ever comes out of these conversations trying to highlight a decline, it pretty much killed off grime with people banging on about how dead the genre is.. then people STFU and got on with making music and its going strong again.

[SCope13]

grime is more diverse and varied though, so I think dubstep seeing the resurgence grime has is unlikely or is at least going to be a while from now. Maybe I'm wrong.

[blinx420]

Dubstep thrived underground for many years and will continue to do so as most underground producers aren't in it for the fame rather theyre doing something they love so don't worry m8 dubstep will always be around

[nousd]

the attitude around the genre is that new sounds aren't welcome and that new fans are posers and we don't want em. i think that dubstep would be a lot better off without these elitist hipsters scaring off all potential new fans.

Your namesake generated deep mistrust by publically supporting one camp whilst actively subverting it. You won't lose your head but I don't trust your opinions because, imo they are confused and ill-considered.

People have an elitist attitude because it is in fact brostep that scared people off dubstep

That either doesn't make sense or is wrong.

Dubstep isn't being played out much atm but I suspect there are tens of thousands listening at home, some to catch up with what they missed and some to keep contact with ongoing innovation and exploration. Dubstep currently seems like an almost played-out mine, its extractions now enriching other music, but there'll always be exponents, as per beebop, who'll keep sifting the spoil or digging deeper into the underground to produce the occasional nugget...maybe even to find a fresh vein...a novel combo of swing, wobble, backbeat and dub. Could be happening right now.

[soulkids]

[Rossco]

Anyone saying its on the decline clearly wasn't at DMZ.

[Mojo]

Mary Anne Hobbs once said something about dubstep which quite alot people forget these days:

"I guess the one thing that hangs everything together, the axis if you like, around which the whole of this sound revolves, is just an absolute love of subbass."

and

"One of the most fascinating things about dubstep is that there are literally no rules or whatsoever regards to different influences of sound. It's kinda like a meetingpoint for every conceivable underground culture basically, and you can, if you're a fan of techno or a fan of avantgarde metal or a fan of oldschool dubsounds or whatever it may be, you will find something within dubstep that will touch you."

[Staley]

^^
Mojo hit the nail on the thread.

[garethom]

Is this thread 2010?