WIP Thread - GIVE FEEDBACK TO OTHERS BEFORE POSTING!!!

[cmgoodman1226]

@mike renai: Intro is very catchy. Although I'd change that piano; sounds a bit hoaky to me. I'd try to find a nice big hall grand for this. Your kick lacks enough high end to make it stand out in a track like this. The snare has some punch but just sounds like white noise. I'd go with something with a nice attack but not as much sustain. when the main part kicks in it sounds like your sub is just playing one droling not the entire time (maybe I'm wrong), but if so I'd change that up.I think after the drop needs a lot of work. I honestly find the intro a lot more interesting.

@dotcurrency: Right off the bat some things sound waaaaay louder than others. You need to spend a bit of time toning some of those sounds down. Also around 14-17 is really fatiguing on the ears. You might want to cut out some of the mid highs on that part of the sweep. Also I would cut off all the lows on your bassline and lower the sub an octave. You'd probably wind up with a lot more weight that way. All in all this is defenitly a nice start. Keep at it.

Efrafa11: I like the idea behind this, but it seems to struggle to get into a real groove. I feel like if you lined up some of the vox and held off on the snare so it came in a bit later it would give it that swing. Like the percussion and the reversed piano. Really nice work here. I'd love to hear the finished product.

Here's my latest
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It's still a very rough draft and I'm not really sure where I'm going to take it but this is the gist.

[Mark Ceresnik]

@mike renai
I know I already commented on your SoundCloud, but I REALLY like this song! The intro is great! You also have some nice sound design in there. Keep at it and please finish it soon

@dotcurrency
I really like the idea. I think you should have some more low end in the drop though. I feel like the sounds would be prominent in the mix if you added a better sub or EQ'd them to have a more prominent low-end. Great work though

@cmgoodman1226

I really like the percussion in this one! I also really like when the vocals come in...it keeps the track interesting and fresh

This is a remix I am currently working on. It's in a very early stage but I want some feedback on the main ideas and structure. I know that the drop is bit harsh on the ears and has too much high-end, but when I try EQ-ing out the high-end, the sound starts to sound muffled. If anyone has any ideas on how to fix this, I would love the hear them
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[Maxxan]

Mike Renai:
Pretty cool intro. Transitions between sections feel a bit forced, you might wanna smooth them over with some sweeps and filter automations and stuff. The build up is pretty generic with the kick and also sounds a bit stiff, change up the velocity a little or automate a low pass filter or something. Track also sounds a little bit empty, throw in some pads or something to fill it up a bit.

cmgoodman:
That main part, the droning whatever sound. It sounds cool but it gets a little old, gets a little bit overused imo. Try changing it up a little bit or adding something else on top of it. Also the low mids are lacking in the intro, feels a bit empty. Starts to pick up a lot for the second half though with the burial-esque vocals, that sounds really nice.

Mark Ceresnik:
Watch the velocity on the kick, it sounds really digital and stale when all the notes are played with 100% velocity. I also feel that the sample is a little bit too aggressive for the vibe in the intro, I'd like a softer kick here. I'd also throw in some strings or a pad or something along with the piano. I think the vocal stuttering in the build-up is a little cheesy too. Nothing wrong with the mean idea and arrangement though, but it's a little hard to tell at this stage.

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Here's mine. I messed up some of the bass growl chops in the drop, started working with a pretty muddy sample without noticing (damn you alcohol), I sort of think it needs a little clearer highs and punchier mids but I'm not sure if it works, can't really go back and fix it that easily. I'm also not sure the sub is following the bass well enough. Also sound design in general, or anything that stands out really. Cheers dudes.

Edit: Yeah, I also think the strings in the intro sound cheesy as fuck but I'm drawing blanks when I'm trying to come up with something better. Whatchall think?

[mthrfnk]

@Maxxan: Like the intro, strings sound good to me tbh. Got a nice clean air about it till that deep bass comes in - I feel like the reese could have more top end, it's very sub heavy in the build to the vocal sample. Vocal sample and synth build is really nice. Drop is kind of muddied by the vocal, chop that a little shorter maybe? Drop is quite cool but again the mix sounds really bass heavy on my monitors (like slightly too heavy) - I'd try clearing up the low end and push the midrange and kick though more. Nice track though.

@Mark Ceresnik: Intro is nice, perhaps liven up the drums a little with some rides. Also since the drums go on for so long I'd recommend switching up the patterns and maybe having a heavy-reverbed snare on every 4th hit. Like you said the drop is harsh and it's pretty hard to judge because it's so short - the drums get muffled completely, try sidechaining the volume and maybe some EQ notches on your midrange to help this. The high end you're on about sounds like digital distortion, maybe try toning back any distortion or saturation you have until it sounds better and maybe notch out the mid-high frequencies a little.

@cmgoodman1226: Like the reversed-style panned stuff at the opening. The clap is a little dry imo, but you do liven it up with the reverb drench - perhaps add some panned samples from the start? Sub on the main sounds nice and the drum patterns are nicely intricate. Vocals add a nice touch too. I feel like you could add a little more crack to the snare/clap during the main to help cut through your pads. Other than that sounds like a good start, just needs maybe a little more structure and variation?

@Mike Renai: I guess your sig is your WIP? Anyways the intro is lovely - the strings are nice and catchy and it builds well. I'd pump up the piano some more just to help it cut through and add more flavour to the track. The kick build is a bit standard but it works well enough. Your drums on the drop needs some more punch, esp the snare. The drop section also sounds quite empty because it seems to lack a lot of bass, try beefing out the lowend of your chords and pushing the sub more.

@Efrafa11: Intro sounds really nice, the reversed sounds and sampling is great. Alternative perc is really nice and the panning works well. Imo the kick needs more punch, its quite muffled to me atm - like I know it's there but can't feel it. Perhaps for a section you should unreverse the reversed melody, idk, might just add a little variation to the track. Overall sounds pretty original


Here's my newest WIP for my EP, it's 112bpm - hows it sound, btw the mix isn't finished yet...
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[Mike Renai]

Just a quick thank you to everyone that gave me feedback. The advice was constructive and honest and that's of huge value to me. I made a few changes and called it a day on that track as it was sucking up too much time and felt "forced". I will take all the lessons learned from that and apply it to my next works. Huge thanks to the DSF community.

[Mike Renai]

@cmgoodman1226 - Your drum percussion elements are tight. Maybe experiment with different kicks to make sure they sound good on monitors as well as average headphones. I'm at work and the kick just feels a bit off on my headphones but i'll check again when I get home.

@Mark Ceresnik - Nice start on both WIP's however don't make the same mistakes as me. I was lazy using a typical rolling kick build. It doesn't take much effort to do a quick drum fill right before the drop. Maxxan's advice on kick velocity can also be applied to every drum hit and percussion element. Lastly make sure you layer your Mid/High drop elements with some low end bass to fill out the frequency spectrum. Your DAW may have a spectral analyzer to help you isolate the areas that need treatment.

@Maxxan - Really nice builds in the track and I could learn a thing or two about transitions from you. Its hard to fault the track anywhere, maybe some delicate EQ on the lowend drop elements can help the growls stand out a bit more.

[mthrfnk]

Lol.

[Kongret]

I decided to take a little break from the usual dubstep stuff and decided to make some sad breakbeat.
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and also some usual drumstep stuff.
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They are both work in progress.

@mthrfnk
Funky.
Not sure about hh in the beginning, they don't really add anything and the moment they are taken away there is a little loss of energy.
Maybe add a little pause with a break at 0:33 before the theme?
0:49 is really dissonant.
0:53 vocals sound really good and funky.
1:10 i think that bass should stop for more contrast.
±2:30
Build is at the same volume as the drop which leads to loss of energy.
A bit more variety would be nice.
@Maxxan
Basses sound nice.
Mix is muddy as hell,
Intro is too long and it begs for a theme melody or something, not enough stuff atm. Build is awesome.
First drop starts out awesome but doesn't flow that well after the second high pitched sound. Second drop is much better in that matter.
@Mark Ceresnik
I don't think that drums work in the intro, they are too loud compared to other sounds and don't really add anything of substance. Drums in the verse are too repetitive.
little sample in the build sounds dissonant and just plain weird.
Build doesn't really build power as it should, try to analyze builds made by producers you like.
Drop starts out nice.
@cmgoodman1226
I think that intro needs a bit more melodic layers, high piano stuff or some arps. Beats sounds nice and clear. One note sub pressure is kinda tiring.
Nice vocal cuts at 1:26.
Stuff develops quite nice but earlier parts feel like they are lacking something.
@Mike Renai
Nice strings, drums do not add anything of substance right now groove is kinda lacking in the intro. Intro gets kinda repetitive, try to add more stuff or finish it earlier. Build doesn't really "build" energy as it should.
Drop has nice ideas but doesn't really flow atm.
2:46 sounds nice.

[Gaol]

@cmgoodman1226 : I love the vibe of that track so much. So smooth. I love those drums. I cant think of any criticisms. dope track.

@Maxxan : I think the strings are good in the beginning. Love the vocal sample. The mix is a little bass heavy. Bring out the top end a little to make the mix fuller. Nice full drop.

@Kongret : You had me at drumstep. I love drumstep. I like the airy happy intro. Its like a calm before the storm. It builds really good to the drop. I feel like the crashes are too loud. The make the song sound fuzzy.

Here's my WIP

Its kind of a trappy dubstep thing. Its 100BPM And its kinda long.

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[NITEMERE]

@Gaol I really love the intro so atmospheric and those synths you used especially just before the bass drops sound so nice, can't really think of criticisms awesome track


Here is my WIP drop feedback needed:

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[Dystinkt]

Nitemere- Mixdown needs a lot of work man, the drums are almost inaudible, bass needs majorly turning down and eqing. percussion and drums need to punch through the bassline a lot more, try compressing them or sidechain the snare to bass subtly, that usually helps out a lot. also try cutting a notch out of the bass at 300-500hz to get rid of any muddiness.

Gaol- Its got influences from dubstep, trap and even a bit of prog house in there, melodically its very interesting. again the mixdown needs tightening up, something to remember was what the producer mosca once said, the entire track is always built around the kick yours is quite weak sounding at the moment, your snare also needs to punch through more too.

Kongret- very interesting tune man, i think the break persuccion is too clean personally, dirty it up by using some amen break samples, highpassing them and putting a kick and snare underneath doing the same thing. listen to some old skream tunes where uses breaks to get an inmage of what I'm on about. It s got potential to be a really nice track though man, keep at it.

heres my latest effort, chilled and thought out which is a rarity for me

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[mtl6]

dystinkt- love the square waves mmmm,this is really good. right up my alley. can't even really think of feedback, maybe add some unique one shots cause it is a little predictable... great work though.

nitemere- i love cheesy music but that intro was a little too cheesy if you feel me. seems like you got a nice bass riff but way too much top end IMO. can't hear any of the drums either.


gaol - wow really wasn't expecting that melody at around :50 pretty beautiful stuff- i would expand on that melody before bringing that bass stab in. (the bass sounds a little too harsh for such a nice melody IMO) I think the bass should only drop at 2:25 or whereever that second drop was. not a huge fan of the bass heavy parts but thats just my personal preferences- i think you need like two kinds of basses to do a call-and-response type riff


HERE is my electro w.i.p. inspired by calvin harris, rustie, MDMA, and redbull:
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THANKS FOR FEEDBACK.

[mthrfnk]

Give decent feedback to 5 people, get 1 in return.

(Thanks Kongret, taken aboard your comments )

[cmgoodman1226]

@Mthrfnk: It's def catchy. I personally think you could bring up the lead a bit more and give it a bit more presence (not the arp one but the one in the beginning and after the 3rd buildup). The buildups are strong. I think there should be more parts after the drop sans vox which would help to really be able to take in everything else going. You may also want lengthen the song a bit by slowly taking away different elements (like taking away the lfo'd sound and leaving the sub and vox and perc,etc.) I would also send those vox through an exciter or tape distort them because they seem to lack crispness to me. All in all this is really nice work. And now you can stop crying about feedback.

[mthrfnk]

@Mthrfnk: It's def catchy. I personally think you could bring up the lead a bit more and give it a bit more presence (not the arp one but the one in the beginning and after the 3rd buildup). The buildups are strong. I think there should be more parts after the drop sans vox which would help to really be able to take in everything else going. You may also want lengthen the song a bit by slowly taking away different elements (like taking away the lfo'd sound and leaving the sub and vox and perc,etc.) I would also send those vox through an exciter or tape distort them because they seem to lack crispness to me. All in all this is really nice work. And now you can stop crying about feedback.

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[antman]

@Mtl6: Really smooth and melodic. Only thing i can say is to bring up the mix a little.

@Cheeky: Smoooooth, nice and dark. Really like your percussion and your sub is super nasty. You managed to keep my attention the whole time which is pretty sweet. Nothing to complain about! Hope to hear more.

@Gaol: Whoah super long. not my style of music but it seems like it sounds bit too reverbey or over compressed or something. Im not sure what it is but something doesn't sit well with my in your mix. I also really cant hear any sub bass.

@Kongret Tune 1: oh nice. Really good vibes off this one. i seem to haven gotten bored quickly but thats just me. Your breakdowns are really smooth. Good stuff.

Tune 2: Not my style but super nasty. Mix seems really clear to me. nothing else to complain about here.

Heres my newest stuff. Let me know whatcha think so far. What i can add etc. Thanks.

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[Hashkey]

Nitemere. The drums are very very low. You have good ideas but you need Eq out what you don't need.

Cheeky. Absolutely nothing to say. the track is huge/perfect.

mtl6. Very catchy melodies but I think the bass feels a bit cold. Try using a Tape Simulator to heaten it up or a saturator + high pass in parallel on the bass.

mthrfnk. Always good ideas and tunes from you. The mix is very very clean I like it.
those wobbles are gated right?

Antman Geez...how did you do that evil Gigantic bass :O????

Here is my work...

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[mthrfnk]

mthrfnk. Always good ideas and tunes from you. The mix is very very clean I like it.
those wobbles are gated right?

Saw wave LFO @ 1/4 on a filter on the midrange bass & chord synth, sub notes are manually programmed.

Nice intro on your tune man, like the ambient reverb sounds going on - and that sub hits hard man. I was going to suggest a reverbed snare every 4th hit, then you went and did that haha - fits perfect. I'd say you should bring in the midrange melody a bit sooner and have it louder leading in to that break before dropping the sub back in. Other than that, sounding tight man perhaps could use a little more variation in sub/perc but meh.

[Hashkey]

mthrfnk. Always good ideas and tunes from you. The mix is very very clean I like it.
those wobbles are gated right?

Saw wave LFO @ 1/4 on a filter on the midrange bass & chord synth, sub notes are manually programmed.

Nice intro on your tune man, like the ambient reverb sounds going on - and that sub hits hard man. I was going to suggest a reverbed snare every 4th hit, then you went and did that haha - fits perfect. I'd say you should bring in the midrange melody a bit sooner and have it louder leading in to that break before dropping the sub back in. Other than that, sounding tight man perhaps could use a little more variation in sub/perc but meh.

Cheers man! Ok I'm gonna try that. playing the mid hook on the break but raising slowly from silence till the sub drops again. Will add some little variations too to sub and perc.

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spectrafunk: listening to your first sig WIP, overall sounds pretty good. composition, effects and variation are on point. the mix seems a little tinny to me, maybe add some more meat in the midrange somehow. still though impressive work, curious to see what you say about my tune because I need some arrangement first aid x_x

hashkey: good but gets a little repetitive. after 8 bars you should introduce some more percussion, maybe some kind of stick or rim sound in the back hitting kind of fast. kind of like the hats at 1:50. nice work overall, sub is fat. tune reminds me of lx-one a little bit. just needs more changeups.

antman: like this one a lot. wobs remind me of loefah. needs more funky little effects sprinkled everywhere, and more variance in the percussion imo. mix is clean though, snare could maybe use a little more snap. still, everything flows and overall it's a pretty fat tune from someone who is obviously experienced. keep it up! let me know what you think of my tune..

this is v2 of this WIP i've been coming back to this one over a very busy past few weeks. have yet to build the second half of the track, let me know what you think! personally i think the melody gets a little stale in a few places, something i have yet to work on. this is a rough mix and definitely unmastered. need to do some compression on the low end.

that said i think the idea is more or less out, and i'm eager to get this one done. c&c appreciated!

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