Harlem Shake: could it kill sampling?

wub · Post by **wub** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:44 am

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/ma ... g-sampling

Slight overreaction by the Guardian here IMO, citing Baauer's two uncleared vocal samples in Harlem Shake.

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:59 am

Slight is an understatement.

test_recordings · Post by **test_recordings** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:04 am

What the fuck, they're just going off on one about the history of sampling.

Hopefully it'll kill trap music though

Mr Hyde · Post by **Mr Hyde** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:07 am

thou can indeed steal as long as the people you're stealing from don't smell a payday.

win win really, sample all you want and you're unlikely to get hassled unless it becomes really popular- if it gets really popular then you might need to pay out but by then you could be as famous as baauer with the DJ fees to match.

Johnlenham · Post by **Johnlenham** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:21 am

Baauer's failure to license the samples would appear to stem from some combination of naivety, laziness and stupidity

They arnt fucking about.
Yet oddly had this song not been raped to death by mutants on youtube the world over, neither of these guys would have ever known about it and would recive the princely sum of.... fuck all for their "part" in it.

Sure there is a rapper right now about to get sued into oblivion for a similar case. Might have mentioned it in the article but i stopped reading after they went on to tell the history of sampling.

wub · Post by **wub** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:25 am

He made a track with some samples that he hasn't cleared and it blew up...these things happen. Not the end of the world as we know it.

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:30 am

wub wrote:He made a track with some samples that he hasn't cleared and it blew up...these things happen. Not the end of the world as we know it.

Far from the first time, and far from the last it will happen.
The shame is these "journalists" have next to no clue (nor do they seem to want to do the actual research for their articles) as to what a large role sampling plays in certain genres that aren't pop or top 40.

Johnlenham · Post by **Johnlenham** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:34 am

wub wrote:He made a track with some samples that he hasn't cleared and it blew up...these things happen. Not the end of the world as we know it.

Can you just put this in the Op and lock the thread then.
Round of aplause all round team. Good work

wub · Post by **wub** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:34 am

Guardian is usually quite on the ball with their electronic music obvervations...this just smacks of trying to shoe horn in a 'topical' story about a current global trend.

Johnlenham wrote:
wub wrote:He made a track with some samples that he hasn't cleared and it blew up...these things happen. Not the end of the world as we know it.
Can you just put this in the Op and lock the thread then.
Round of aplause all round team. Good work

Doozle · Post by **Doozle** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:37 am

Where do producers stand when they sample bits of film tracks, stuff like voice snippets and quotes. Something quite common in dubstep, who would you go to to clear that, could you be sued for it? I was wondering this recently.

dickman69 · Post by **dickman69** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:21 pm

the people who made the movie

yes

Jizz · Post by **Jizz** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:53 pm

tbh i dont get why people would wanna sue you over a 2-second drum sample like how it says in the article. Sure you might get money, but doesnt that make you feel incredibly selfish as an artist? I wouldnt push charges against something like that lol

kaili · Post by **kaili** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:15 pm

tl;dr

Samuel_L_Damnson · Post by **Samuel_L_Damnson** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:36 pm

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:31 pm

JizzMan wrote:tbh i dont get why people would wanna sue you over a 2-second drum sample like how it says in the article. Sure you might get money, but doesnt that make you feel incredibly selfish as an artist? I wouldnt push charges against something like that lol

If I could sue you for 200k for no reason, I would. I could use the cash.

nameless133 · Post by **nameless133** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:08 pm

I hope.

fractal · Post by **fractal** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:17 pm

what do they want us to do, learn to actually make music???

magma · Post by **magma** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:56 pm

No.

tl;dr No

topmo3 · Post by **topmo3** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:15 pm

yeah ofc it sounds like being a complete dick but honestly if i had the chance to get sum money outta it i'd prolly sue him too

Jizz · Post by **Jizz** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:13 pm

nowaysj wrote:
JizzMan wrote:tbh i dont get why people would wanna sue you over a 2-second drum sample like how it says in the article. Sure you might get money, but doesnt that make you feel incredibly selfish as an artist? I wouldnt push charges against something like that lol
If I could sue you for 200k for no reason, I would. I could use the cash.

fair enough, i guess my statement was a bit naive

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