Do you think abstract art should be considered art?

Trichome · Post by **Trichome** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:31 am

When I say abstract art, to me its the reeeeeeeeeeeeeally pointless stuff like this:

i know this topic is very subjective, but i figured it would make for an interesting discussion.

wub · Post by **wub** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:32 am

Forum · Post by **Forum** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:34 am

Yes but the word art doesn't necessarily mean it's any good

danny_scrilla · Post by **danny_scrilla** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:35 am

if it's actually art then yes...if not...no.

particle-jim · Post by **particle-jim** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:47 am

Trainrek wrote:i know this topic is very subjective

there's your answer

Lye_Form · Post by **Lye_Form** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:48 am

danny scrilla wrote:if it's actually art then yes...if not...no.

So there is abstract art that is not art?

scspkr99 · Post by **scspkr99** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:49 am

I don't think the ones you've posted are even close to controversial to be honest.

And yeah it should

Terpit · Post by **Terpit** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:50 am

Only if I like it

Laszlo · Post by **Laszlo** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:52 am

Dunno. Rothko can fuck off though.

Is that anti-Semitic?

Racist. Ban imo

danny_scrilla · Post by **danny_scrilla** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:55 am

Lye Form wrote:
danny scrilla wrote:if it's actually art then yes...if not...no.
So there is abstract art that is not art?

no...if it's abstract ART, then it's art. if not, it's just abstract something. i guess everyone decides for themselves what is art and what isn't.

exfox · Post by **exfox** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:56 am

why wouldn't it?

Kochari · Post by **Kochari** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:57 am

danny scrilla wrote:i guess everyone decides for themselves what is art and what isn't.

If you think it is, cool. If you don't, also cool. Doesn't really affect you, or anyone else, either way does it?

scspkr99 · Post by **scspkr99** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:03 pm

danny scrilla wrote: no...if it's abstract ART, then it's art. if not, it's just abstract something. i guess everyone decides for themselves what is art and what isn't.

I disagree, not that it matters what people consider something but me not considering the thing I'm typing on a laptop doesn't make it something other than a laptop.

I think everyone gets to decide for themselves whether it's any good or not but I think there's probably some objective standard by which something either classifies as art or not.

Terpit · Post by **Terpit** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:06 pm

scspkr99 wrote:
danny scrilla wrote: no...if it's abstract ART, then it's art. if not, it's just abstract something. i guess everyone decides for themselves what is art and what isn't.
I disagree, not that it matters what people consider something but me not considering the thing I'm typing on a laptop doesn't make it something other than a laptop.

I think everyone gets to decide for themselves whether it's any good or not but I think there's probably some objective standard by which something either classifies as art or not.

Exactly, to me this is some of the most powerful art out there

(improved imo)

Some closed minded people reckon that's shit

Laszlo · Post by **Laszlo** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:09 pm

I think a more important point is
how much value is placed on each piece.

Does a few blocks of colour warrant a $1m price tag?

At what point does a picture become worth so much. Wtf happened that made a one persons abstract interpretation of.. whatever be valued more than that of another.

Art mafia imo b2b illuminati b2b the jews.

Lye_Form · Post by **Lye_Form** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:12 pm

danny scrilla wrote:
Lye Form wrote:
danny scrilla wrote:if it's actually art then yes...if not...no.
So there is abstract art that is not art?
no...if it's abstract ART, then it's art. if not, it's just abstract something. i guess everyone decides for themselves what is art and what isn't.

I might become art.

Trichome · Post by **Trichome** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:12 pm

for me art is about representation. true art represents something, feelings, world events, another person... etc.
a line drawn through the centre of a canvas means nothing, represents nothing. so for me its not art.

obviously this only applies to some abstract art.
and by no means do i hate all of it.

also laszlo i agree.

faultier · Post by **faultier** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:14 pm

magma · Post by **magma** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:15 pm

Yes, next question.

Forum · Post by **Forum** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:16 pm

An object is worth what people are willing to pay, thats all there is to it