Can I become Prime minister?

Off Topic (Everything besides dubstep)
Forum rules
Please read and follow this sub-forum's specific rules listed HERE, as well as our sitewide rules listed HERE.

Link to the Secret Ninja Sessions community ustream channel - info in this thread
User avatar
antipode
Posts: 4922
Joined: Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:26 am

Re: Can I become Prime minister?

Post by antipode » Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:23 am

murky21 wrote:a bit easier would be to:

1. Move to the states
2. Enjoy lengthy career of ridiculous action movies and bodybuilding
3. Then become governor of most populous state in worlds most powerful country
:lol:
jrkhnds wrote:
and I've never really rated dubstep..
- dubstepforum, 2014.

User avatar
alphacat
Posts: 6016
Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:52 pm

Re: Can I become Prime minister?

Post by alphacat » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:21 pm

^ Totally. Say what you want about the guy, but Arnie exemplifies the whole "will to power" thing a little too well.

Image

User avatar
Mr Hyde
Posts: 2148
Joined: Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:37 am
Location: SE26
Contact:

Re: Can I become Prime minister?

Post by Mr Hyde » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:23 pm

Image

User avatar
hugh
Posts: 4164
Joined: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:00 pm
Contact:

Re: Can I become Prime minister?

Post by hugh » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:52 pm

Just start a facebook page and talk loads of rhetoric and reinforce how serious you are etc etc and you will probably be surprised about the results. Just be sure not to affiliate yourself with either the left or the right, and sit thoroughly on the fence over most issues.
Lost Dreams - Final
Soundcloud
Ipso Facto - Final
Soundcloud

User avatar
Fbac
Posts: 1069
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:45 am
Contact:

Re: Can I become Prime minister?

Post by Fbac » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:40 am

So to run I will need £500 (running as representative of the monster party in my area)

Thought i might run a Kick-starter campaign to raise the money.

Going to go off and work on the Info-pic and some policy's.


Any useful policies or changes anyone could recommend?
hurlingdervish wrote:The true test of an overly specific, pretentious, genre name, is how many sycophants line up to defend its bullshit when the copy-cats arrive on the scene, imitating the styles of people who had no conscience for the styles they were innovating.

wub
Posts: 34156
Joined: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:11 pm
Location: Madrid
Contact:

Re: Can I become Prime minister?

Post by wub » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:44 am

Fbac wrote:So to run I will need £500 (running as representative of the monster party in my area)

Thought i might run a Kick-starter campaign to raise the money.
:a:

http://www.kickstarter.com/help/guidelines

What is not allowed?
  • Kickstarter cannot be used to raise money for causes, whether it's the Red Cross or a scholarship, or for "fund my life" projects, like tuition or bills.
  • Kickstarter cannot be used to sell equity or solicit loans.
  • Projects cannot resell items or offer rewards not produced by the project or its creator.
  • Creators cannot promise to donate a portion of funds raised or future revenue to a cause.
  • Projects cannot offer rewards in bulk quantities (more than 10).
  • Kickstarter cannot be used to fund e-commerce, business, and social networking websites or apps.
  • Kickstarter cannot be used to fund software projects not run by the developers themselves.
  • Kickstarter cannot be used to buy real estate.
  • Projects cannot offer alcohol as a reward.
  • Projects cannot offer financial, medical, or health advice.
  • No offensive material (hate speech, etc.); pornographic material; or projects endorsing or opposing a political candidate.
  • No tobacco, drugs, and drug paraphernalia; energy food and drinks; or nutritional supplements.
  • No contests, raffles, coupons, or lifetime memberships.
  • No bath, beauty, and cosmetic products; electronic surveillance equipment; eyewear (sunglasses, prescription glasses, and others); firearms, weapons, knives, weapon accessories, and replicas of weapons; medical, health, safety, and personal care products; or infomercial-type products.

User avatar
Mason
Posts: 1928
Joined: Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:41 pm
Location: Birmingham

Re: Can I become Prime minister?

Post by Mason » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:03 pm

Fbac wrote:Any useful policies or changes anyone could recommend?
get rid of police so i can blase my 420 in peace
Soundcloud
TopManLurka wrote:sycophants gon sycophant.

User avatar
Fbac
Posts: 1069
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:45 am
Contact:

Re: Can I become Prime minister?

Post by Fbac » Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:55 pm

cheers wub, too bad.
Last edited by Fbac on Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
hurlingdervish wrote:The true test of an overly specific, pretentious, genre name, is how many sycophants line up to defend its bullshit when the copy-cats arrive on the scene, imitating the styles of people who had no conscience for the styles they were innovating.

User avatar
Fbac
Posts: 1069
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:45 am
Contact:

Re: Can I become Prime minister?

Post by Fbac » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:35 pm

Mason wrote:
Fbac wrote:Any useful policies or changes anyone could recommend?
get rid of police so i can blase my 420 in peace
Agreed, police should bring there own if they want to blaze.
hurlingdervish wrote:The true test of an overly specific, pretentious, genre name, is how many sycophants line up to defend its bullshit when the copy-cats arrive on the scene, imitating the styles of people who had no conscience for the styles they were innovating.

User avatar
Fbac
Posts: 1069
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:45 am
Contact:

Re: Can I become Prime minister?

Post by Fbac » Thu May 02, 2013 10:07 am

Update.

So whilst looking over the subject I found it quite interesting to do a social experiment in how far can "I become Prime Minister" with the side goal being to write a book on Social mobility.

What i have since found is a wide level of support. I began a closed face-book discussion in regards to policy's and it began to form. I then started to contact academics and authors of whos work i was being influenced by.

Now i have a new question to think about.. I could get the backing if i had a good enouth idea. Package.
To create a new party and use social media to get a connection between voting public and government.
At the very least awareness would be raised on the issues and the politicians in power would need to make counter-offers to voters and would either keep there promises or not once/if they won.

So how would you go about creating a social media party? I figure here is a good source of people with experience with that sort of thing.
hurlingdervish wrote:The true test of an overly specific, pretentious, genre name, is how many sycophants line up to defend its bullshit when the copy-cats arrive on the scene, imitating the styles of people who had no conscience for the styles they were innovating.

Pedro Sánchez
Posts: 7727
Joined: Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:15 pm
Location: ButtonMoon

Re: Can I become Prime minister?

Post by Pedro Sánchez » Thu May 02, 2013 12:47 pm

If you're serious about getting into politics as a career option, you might wanna stop posting on here as the opposing party could use your music choice to discredit you.
Plus, not to be a dick... but without having rich donors of one of the main parties, you will never get your policies heard especially as an independent.
You also better have a deep understanding of all corners of society and the things that make it work(Economics, Law, Foreign Policies etc.) , with a view of improving them things or, y'know... we already have a bunch of twats pretending they do, so you would just be adding to that list.
Last edited by Pedro Sánchez on Thu May 02, 2013 1:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Genevieve wrote:It's a universal law that the rich have to exploit the poor. Preferably violently.

User avatar
Pistonsbeneath
Posts: 10785
Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:00 pm
Location: Croydon
Contact:

Re: Can I become Prime minister?

Post by Pistonsbeneath » Thu May 02, 2013 12:53 pm

If there was one candidate that I liked in any small way I might actually vote so go for it but I doubt you'd be allowed to be voted in if you catch my drift
http://www.mixcloud.com/garethom/night-tracks-040-pistonsbeneath-guest-mix/

Soundcloud

BUY PISTONSBENEATH 24TH CENTURY EP CDS & DIGITAL

THREAD FOR MY GETDARKER SETS W/ YOUTUBE LINKS, ITUNES & DIRECT DOWNLOAD LINKS

SCA MIX

HEDMUK MIX

bookings - verity at subcultureartists.com

User avatar
Fbac
Posts: 1069
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:45 am
Contact:

Re: Can I become Prime minister?

Post by Fbac » Thu May 02, 2013 3:16 pm

Pedro Sánchez wrote:If you're serious about getting into politics as a career option, you might wanna stop posting on here as the opposing party could use your music choice to discredit you.
Plus, not to be a dick... but without having rich donors of one of the main parties, you will never get your policies heard especially as an independent.
You also better have a deep understanding of all corners of society and the things that make it work(Economics, Law, Foreign Policies etc.) , with a view of improving them things or, y'know... we already have a bunch of twats pretending they do, so you would just be adding to that list.
Lets say I am less interested in running for Pm then I am in creating a party that is a viable option for people who would like to see constructive change.

I believe there are the right people out there with the right ideas, thoreys, policy's and systems that my aim is to create an appealing party for them together.

This party would at its least promote some possible solutions to current social problems and thus encourage other party's to act or fall under scrutiny when alternate methods of doing things are presented.

I agree with your points, credibility (this being even more important on an internet/forum based party, which in itself would gather interest) , the need for financial backing to access paid media (this was my first hurdle and one i can cross if the party ideology, mission statement and plan are conceive and plausible).

As in 2006 there were something like 326 partys founded putting forward multiple candidates each all losing (thats £500 per candidate) it is even more important that this new party idea be concrete.

All in all I am inspired to see what can be done from this social experiment and DSF has always been an interesting place for opinion, such as your concise points on why this wouldn't be the correct approach for a typical campaign.
hurlingdervish wrote:The true test of an overly specific, pretentious, genre name, is how many sycophants line up to defend its bullshit when the copy-cats arrive on the scene, imitating the styles of people who had no conscience for the styles they were innovating.

User avatar
Lucifa
Posts: 731
Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:11 pm

Re: Can I become Prime minister?

Post by Lucifa » Thu May 02, 2013 3:53 pm

where do you stand economically

nousd
Posts: 8654
Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:22 am
Location: approaching the flux pavillion

Re: Can I become Prime minister?

Post by nousd » Sun May 05, 2013 1:39 pm

If you're asking for ideas it sounds like you have none other than to be pm
which is a perfect credential: intense focus & a lack of commitment to particular policies.

So, presuming you are pragmatic enough to take up whatever ideas will get you there,
it's firstly a matter of accurately polling your electorate,
assessing what are the majority opinions about each issue,
putting these opinions together as a policy despite clashes of dogma,
expressing this policy forthrightly so as to attract attention
at a few thousand social events, including fetes & openings,
inspiring a campaign crew with your charismatic speeches and infinite flexibility
and Bob's your uncle, you'll be elected.

Then all you've got to do is persuade a few hundred other electees to join you and vote for you as there leader.

Maybe it would be easier to arrange a coup.
{*}

User avatar
Fbac
Posts: 1069
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:45 am
Contact:

Re: Can I become Prime minister?

Post by Fbac » Wed May 08, 2013 10:28 am

Lucifa wrote:where do you stand economically
Originally it was to create a form of Unselfish Capitalism but the more i learn about the economic side of capitalism the more distant i feel from it. I looked into Keynes theory but was left thinking this is only picked up when we are in a recession and isn't flexible enough.
I was then pointed to listen to David Harvey from Mr James and now don't even think the political system is a good idea anymore... I have taken the steps forward to educate myself yet find myself 10 steps back.




In regards to Keynes throrey here is a quote that lead me there via Jame's work.

"" Like Hutton, James also provides an impressive battery of statistics to support his claims: most notably a recent World Health Organisation survey which categorically proves (if any further evidence were needed) that as of 2007 rates of mental illness (which James prefers to euphemistically call "distress") have doubled since 1973, the year which saw Keynsianism buried under the triple avalanches of the unraveling of the Bretton Woods monetary system, the first oil shock and stagflation. This was an economic philosophy which had governed the West since 1945, underpinned by the belief that government spending on society’s infrastructure can inflate economic growth and the well-being of the population. Keynsianism is clearly what James is alluding to when he talks about Unselfish Capitalism, although at no point does he adequately define it. Had he done so, the younger or even older less-informed readers, who have probably spent much or all of their adult lives living through Thatcherism, would have a counterpoint with which to contrast ""

From : http://www.therecusant.org.uk/#/leon-br ... 4527316708


I am currently asking people if they know of any good economic systems. I am currently interested in the Austrian school of thought on the matter and will return to answer your question when i have a response I am comfortable with.
hurlingdervish wrote:The true test of an overly specific, pretentious, genre name, is how many sycophants line up to defend its bullshit when the copy-cats arrive on the scene, imitating the styles of people who had no conscience for the styles they were innovating.

User avatar
DRTY
Posts: 7900
Joined: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:08 pm
Location: Bournemouth

Re: Can I become Prime minister?

Post by DRTY » Wed May 08, 2013 10:43 am

Wasn't Ronald Reagan an Actor with no political background? (Heard this on a building site; may not be true).

But yeah I don't see why not, give it a bash.

I like to think anyone can achieve anything if they put the work into it.

wub
Posts: 34156
Joined: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:11 pm
Location: Madrid
Contact:

Re: Can I become Prime minister?

Post by wub » Wed May 08, 2013 10:46 am

DRTY wrote:Wasn't Ronald Reagan an Actor with no political background? (Heard this on a building site; may not be true
True up until a point, Regan didn't enter politics until 1945 (became President in '81) but his first acting role was 1937. He continued acting until 1964, with his last film being The Killers.

User avatar
Pistonsbeneath
Posts: 10785
Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:00 pm
Location: Croydon
Contact:

Re: Can I become Prime minister?

Post by Pistonsbeneath » Wed May 08, 2013 10:48 am

You would never be allowed to get anywhere with politics like that it wouldn't fit into the system
http://www.mixcloud.com/garethom/night-tracks-040-pistonsbeneath-guest-mix/

Soundcloud

BUY PISTONSBENEATH 24TH CENTURY EP CDS & DIGITAL

THREAD FOR MY GETDARKER SETS W/ YOUTUBE LINKS, ITUNES & DIRECT DOWNLOAD LINKS

SCA MIX

HEDMUK MIX

bookings - verity at subcultureartists.com

User avatar
DRTY
Posts: 7900
Joined: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:08 pm
Location: Bournemouth

Re: Can I become Prime minister?

Post by DRTY » Wed May 08, 2013 10:49 am

Pistonsbeneath wrote:You would never be allowed to get anywhere with politics like that it wouldn't fit into the system
Way to go :4:

Locked

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests