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Re: Maschine...useless?

Post by mo_0kz » Wed May 01, 2013 4:04 pm

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Re: Maschine...useless?

Post by Eat Bass » Wed May 01, 2013 4:13 pm

how am i an asshole? im just saying you come off like a proper prick. like your the best thing since sliced bread. yet you cant even put in the time to learn your tools. your full of yourself and talk a big game and show nothing but ignorance to back it up.

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Re: Maschine...useless?

Post by mo_0kz » Wed May 01, 2013 4:17 pm

Eat Bass wrote:how am i an asshole? im just saying you come off like a proper prick. like your the best thing since sliced bread. yet you cant even put in the time to learn your tools. your full of yourself and talk a big game and show nothing but ignorance to back it up.

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Re: Maschine...useless?

Post by SunkLo » Wed May 01, 2013 6:30 pm

mo_0kz wrote:Then a couple months ago (not going to state who it is) someone comes to me with over 30,000 dollars STRAIGHT cash and says "Buy everything you need".
Yeaaa... gonna have to get you to go ahead and mail me some gear.

I'd probably sell the midifighter and just use your keyboard keys and drum pads as triggers. Faders are more valuable to me than buttons, especially since you can setup effects to turn on once the fader moves past 0 so it acts like an on/off switch as well.

Maybe buy a UAD card? I dunno it seems like you're pretty set up. I'd just work on getting my room treated and having my monitoring be pristine. Then just lock the door from the outside and learn all your gear inside and out. Don't come out until you've got an EP of tracks made.
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Re: Maschine...useless?

Post by fragments » Wed May 01, 2013 7:18 pm

Lol if I had 30, 000... id pay off my student loans and still have enough to build an amazing studio...
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Re: Maschine...useless?

Post by Eat Bass » Wed May 01, 2013 7:34 pm

fragments wrote:Lol if I had 30, 000... id pay off my student loans and still have enough to build an amazing studio...
my student loans are like 80 gs :(

but i just added up all my gear and its quite a bit actually

Desktop (PC + Hackintosh) - $2,000
MacBook Pro - $2,500
Studio RTA Desk - $150
Fostex PM1 MKII Monitors - $300
Ultrasone Pro 900 Headphones - $325
Focusrite Saffire 6 - $150
Novation Remote SL MKII - $250
Korg Padkontrol - $80
Logic - $200
Reason - $250
Plugins - $600

Total = $6,800

Plus I'm sure I have some other shit so my total cost is around $7,000. Of coarse I bought all of this over the coarse of 2 years.

My setup is more than enough to make a good album without feeling hindered. The only thing I need is room treatment but since I'm in college and never stay at my apartment for more than 9-12 months I haven't got around to it yet. But yeah $30,000 is an insane amount of money and totally unnecessary. Especially since the OP seems like he doesn't really know what hes doing its kind of a waste to be just blowing money on equipment that he cant use. He's better off with a more subtle setup like mine, which is still way more than enough and investing or saving the money for interest until he gains more knowledge and skill.

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Re: Maschine...useless?

Post by lloydy » Wed May 01, 2013 7:39 pm

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Re: Maschine...useless?

Post by SunkLo » Wed May 01, 2013 7:42 pm

fragments wrote:Lol if I had 30, 000... I'd cash it, put 100's in shoeboxes, declare bankruptcy to dodge debt collectors, then build a mack setup.
fix'd :W:

Fuck a computer science career, I'd devote all my time and effort into running a studio and producing. I only started a CS degree because I knew money's not a sure thing with a music degree. If I already had all the gear and a studio built, big things would be going down.
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Re: Maschine...useless?

Post by fragments » Wed May 01, 2013 7:45 pm

Yea...yall younger people have insane debt for school. But yea....I dont want to add up what my hobby has cost me over the years. Lately its beem better since I usually sell something im not using before buying...
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Re: Maschine...useless?

Post by lloydy » Wed May 01, 2013 7:49 pm

If i had 30000 i'd spend it on the mat black ford focus rs.My studio is about as complete as i want and i lack a seriously quick car!Extra 5 mins in bed in the morning if your cars faster,completely logical statement there.
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Re: Maschine...useless?

Post by fragments » Wed May 01, 2013 8:00 pm

lloydy wrote:If i had 30000 i'd spend it on the mat black ford focus rs.My studio is about as complete as i want and i lack a seriously quick car!Extra 5 mins in bed in the morning if your cars faster,completely logical statement there.
Actually...good point...id replace my 1999 mazda protege... pay off my student loans...and still have enough money for an awesome studio....
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Re: Maschine...useless?

Post by lloydy » Wed May 01, 2013 8:02 pm

fragments wrote:
lloydy wrote:If i had 30000 i'd spend it on the mat black ford focus rs.My studio is about as complete as i want and i lack a seriously quick car!Extra 5 mins in bed in the morning if your cars faster,completely logical statement there.
Actually...good point...id replace my 1999 mazda protege... pay off my student loans...and still have enough money for an awesome studio....
Now to find the 30g :6:
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Re: Maschine...useless?

Post by Eat Bass » Wed May 01, 2013 8:36 pm

fragments wrote:Yea...yall younger people have insane debt for school. But yea....I dont want to add up what my hobby has cost me over the years. Lately its beem better since I usually sell something im not using before buying...
yeah its rough man. but im doing well and creating some nice contacts while i have them available through my professors and internships and attending business meetings and associations to get more contacts. networking is key. hopefully i will land something decent. i have plans for a nice internship next year and then i will decide if i want to get a real job or continue through graduate school. im not totally sure yet...any thoughts?

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Re: Maschine...useless?

Post by fragments » Wed May 01, 2013 8:59 pm

lloydy wrote:
fragments wrote:
lloydy wrote:If i had 30000 i'd spend it on the mat black ford focus rs.My studio is about as complete as i want and i lack a seriously quick car!Extra 5 mins in bed in the morning if your cars faster,completely logical statement there.
Actually...good point...id replace my 1999 mazda protege... pay off my student loans...and still have enough money for an awesome studio....
Now to find the 30g :6:
Well, better start selling coke.


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fragments wrote:Yea...yall younger people have insane debt for school. But yea....I dont want to add up what my hobby has cost me over the years. Lately its beem better since I usually sell something im not using before buying...
yeah its rough man. but im doing well and creating some nice contacts while i have them available through my professors and internships and attending business meetings and associations to get more contacts. networking is key. hopefully i will land something decent. i have plans for a nice internship next year and then i will decide if i want to get a real job or continue through graduate school. im not totally sure yet...any thoughts?
That's basically what I tell my students, you can't just hang around for five or six years...skating by on Cs and getting stupid 5 nights a week...and expect anything but to end up broke, unemployable for anything much better than minimum wage. Personally, I find getting As and making contacts and getting stupid 5 nights a week works out much better :p

Having a graduate degree let me suggest you think about...

...check into your field, in some fields coming straight out of school with a graduate degree makes it hard to get a job (example: k-12 education in the US)
...ask around and find out what people in the field value more...experience or education...
...how much will the graduate degree expand your ability to get jobs...

For me I couldn't get the job I wanted w/o one
Experience was needed as well as education and I could get both by going to graduate school
W/o a graduate degree I could basically get no job besides working the same shitty jobs I had while in school

:Q:

Best of luck!
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Re: Maschine...useless?

Post by Eat Bass » Wed May 01, 2013 9:40 pm

fragments wrote:
lloydy wrote:
fragments wrote:
lloydy wrote:If i had 30000 i'd spend it on the mat black ford focus rs.My studio is about as complete as i want and i lack a seriously quick car!Extra 5 mins in bed in the morning if your cars faster,completely logical statement there.
Actually...good point...id replace my 1999 mazda protege... pay off my student loans...and still have enough money for an awesome studio....
Now to find the 30g :6:
Well, better start selling coke.


Eat Bass wrote:
fragments wrote:Yea...yall younger people have insane debt for school. But yea....I dont want to add up what my hobby has cost me over the years. Lately its beem better since I usually sell something im not using before buying...
yeah its rough man. but im doing well and creating some nice contacts while i have them available through my professors and internships and attending business meetings and associations to get more contacts. networking is key. hopefully i will land something decent. i have plans for a nice internship next year and then i will decide if i want to get a real job or continue through graduate school. im not totally sure yet...any thoughts?
That's basically what I tell my students, you can't just hang around for five or six years...skating by on Cs and getting stupid 5 nights a week...and expect anything but to end up broke, unemployable for anything much better than minimum wage. Personally, I find getting As and making contacts and getting stupid 5 nights a week works out much better :p

Having a graduate degree let me suggest you think about...

...check into your field, in some fields coming straight out of school with a graduate degree makes it hard to get a job (example: k-12 education in the US)
...ask around and find out what people in the field value more...experience or education...
...how much will the graduate degree expand your ability to get jobs...

For me I couldn't get the job I wanted w/o one
Experience was needed as well as education and I could get both by going to graduate school
W/o a graduate degree I could basically get no job besides working the same shitty jobs I had while in school

:Q:

Best of luck!
Thanks man :W:

I have a 3.82 GPA and have been getting straight A's and A+'s for almost 2 years. My first two years of school I got mostly B's and some A's but I really started kicking it up a notch once I got more serious and focused. I know GPA isn't everything but it definately helps and the hardwork and contacts while getting those A's will prove to be of value.

but yeah I think for now I'm going to do that internship next year so that will give me some experience and during that I will take my GMATS and apply to some graduate schools for the following year just to be on the safe side. Then if I think it's worth it and don't land a job worthy of waiting I will go right into getting my master's.

Out of curiosity, what field are you in, high school teacher, a professor, or what? Also, how successful have you managed to become after going through graduate school and getting the necessary experience? Was it all worth it? It's hard these days and its a scary thought that I will be faced with all this debt and definitely forced to get a big boy job. I'm a business management major with a concentration or minor in marketing. Eventually I'd like to work for someone like Native Instruments or something because I can use my competencies that I have gained in business school, coupled with my passion for music to really be valuable asset to such a company. I think working for a company in this industry will help keep me interested in what I'm doing, plus the culture should be nice due to being around people with similar passions.

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Re: Maschine...useless?

Post by fragments » Wed May 01, 2013 10:04 pm

Really high GPAs like that are good for graduate school ;p And some HR depts look now too because everyone and their granny has bachelors degrees and graduate degrees. Internships are key. If you can do a second before you graduate, do it. I worked for the Wick Poetry Center which was located on Campus, but was a semi-private non-profit. I worked in the Writing Center and became the student manager. And I did a Poetry in the Schools program for a semester. Had a 3.6 And I still only got one graduate school offer that appealed to me (though I had to submit a portfolio of creative work and that determined a lot).

So I have a BA in English Literature w/ a Creative Writing minor. And a Masters of Fine Arts in creative writing (poetry focus, non-fiction interest). I do adjunct/part-time/non-contract work for local colleges and univs. Mostly teach the freshmen essay writing courses, but some creative writing. I'm not guaranteed classes every semester, but I have some seniority now as many people adjunct for a few years and quit or go back to school. I make about 30,000 a year (but I also have another part time job that becomes my summer job). No health care. But I operate outside any real authority, don't go to my office hours (because no one every comes to them), I'm never required to go to meetings and have what feels like loads of free time. I don't even have class five days a week most of the time, or have a couple half days. I'm 30 and still smoke a blunt when I want to (not that I can actually take a blunt to the face these days). So life is pretty good. I'm not rich and need to big boy up and budget for health care, but other than that I'm pretty happy for now. I could get jobs outside the Univ. system in tech writing, business writing, editing, copy writing and I could possibly get into working with Arts non-profits since I have some experience. The woman and I don't plan on having children and are extremely careful about preventing it, so our combined income does us well enough. The cost of living is really low here.
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Re: Maschine...useless?

Post by Eat Bass » Thu May 02, 2013 12:33 am

fragments wrote:Really high GPAs like that are good for graduate school ;p And some HR depts look now too because everyone and their granny has bachelors degrees and graduate degrees. Internships are key. If you can do a second before you graduate, do it. I worked for the Wick Poetry Center which was located on Campus, but was a semi-private non-profit. I worked in the Writing Center and became the student manager. And I did a Poetry in the Schools program for a semester. Had a 3.6 And I still only got one graduate school offer that appealed to me (though I had to submit a portfolio of creative work and that determined a lot).

So I have a BA in English Literature w/ a Creative Writing minor. And a Masters of Fine Arts in creative writing (poetry focus, non-fiction interest). I do adjunct/part-time/non-contract work for local colleges and univs. Mostly teach the freshmen essay writing courses, but some creative writing. I'm not guaranteed classes every semester, but I have some seniority now as many people adjunct for a few years and quit or go back to school. I make about 30,000 a year (but I also have another part time job that becomes my summer job). No health care. But I operate outside any real authority, don't go to my office hours (because no one every comes to them), I'm never required to go to meetings and have what feels like loads of free time. I don't even have class five days a week most of the time, or have a couple half days. I'm 30 and still smoke a blunt when I want to (not that I can actually take a blunt to the face these days). So life is pretty good. I'm not rich and need to big boy up and budget for health care, but other than that I'm pretty happy for now. I could get jobs outside the Univ. system in tech writing, business writing, editing, copy writing and I could possibly get into working with Arts non-profits since I have some experience. The woman and I don't plan on having children and are extremely careful about preventing it, so our combined income does us well enough. The cost of living is really low here.
Well good for you man. Sounds like you have your shit planned and as long as you budget you survive somewhat comfortably but most of all, happy. I'm sure with more experience you could end up picking up a full time job at a university? Being a professor seems like an awesome job. And who knows down the road if you ever did become a full time professor maybe you'd end up as chair of the English department or something making pretty damn good money. It would take a lot of work but at least you have room to grow and don't feel stuck where you are.

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Re: Maschine...useless?

Post by fragments » Thu May 02, 2013 1:03 am

^you pretty much nailed it. If I could look for jobs further than 45 minutes from my house, I could find something now too. Especially if I wanted to go out of the country. Basically if I were single I'd be gone. But if I stick around long enough I feel like there will eventually be an opportunity. For now I'm happy to bum around though : )
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Re: Maschine...useless?

Post by SunkLo » Thu May 02, 2013 1:09 am

All about the freelance jobs on the side. I haven't worked for a while but just started doing post production for a small business. The girl who runs it is fresh out of film school so she doesn't have super high standards. I basically get paid $20/h to run recorded audio through iZotope RX and compress and mix for a small tv show. Not much in terms of hours but I'm slowly building experience that I can use to get more freelance gigs or maybe a job in a studio.

Gonna try my hand at developing vst plugins too. Been messing around all day trying to get some cool sounding algorithms. I've been reading a book on web programming too which is pretty profitable at the moment. Hopefully I'll be able to just support myself from home doing random jobs that I enjoy if need be.
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Re: Maschine...useless?

Post by Eat Bass » Thu May 02, 2013 3:07 am

SunkLo wrote:All about the freelance jobs on the side. I haven't worked for a while but just started doing post production for a small business. The girl who runs it is fresh out of film school so she doesn't have super high standards. I basically get paid $20/h to run recorded audio through iZotope RX and compress and mix for a small tv show. Not much in terms of hours but I'm slowly building experience that I can use to get more freelance gigs or maybe a job in a studio.

Gonna try my hand at developing vst plugins too. Been messing around all day trying to get some cool sounding algorithms. I've been reading a book on web programming too which is pretty profitable at the moment. Hopefully I'll be able to just support myself from home doing random jobs that I enjoy if need be.
try talking to futures untold i know he was developing some plugs he might have some pointers for you to get started.

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