What laptops do you use

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@ those saying mac is priced too high. while i agree, nothing else compares on the market as far as laptops. i've used a lot of different laptops and nothing touches my macbook pro in my opinion of coarse.

It depends what you mean by nothing touches it. If we're talking performance - there's plenty of PC laptops that will stomp all over it, and obviously PC's leave it in the dust when we take price/performance ratios into account. But if we're talking build quality, then the MBP is probably the most well made laptop on the market. That one piece aluminium chassis is classy, as far as I know there's no PC laptops that come close to this. A few have tried, but for the most part, PC laptops are plastic.

To be honest, I've been thinking of getting a Mac mainly due to the build quality. Also due to the fact that Windows 8 is a joke, I don't really want my laptop resembling a giant smartphone. At least Apple are still supporting their mouse/touchpad customers!

The only Mac I don't like is the new Retina model. It's a total waste of time for anyone who isn't doing intense graphics work. The screen uses more power, is less bright and the whole thing feels sluggish, as it upscalesthen downscales pretty much everything. Plus you can't change the battery - it's built inside the new MBP, and you're talking a couple of thousand ££s minimum.

I'll wait until June, apparently Apple might also be releasing new models with the new Haswell chips in too, I'd like to see what's available before deciding. There's also a chance they may mention Logic Pro 10 or X.

Well, my ASUS is partially aluminum. And is very solid. What the heck are you doing to your laptop that you are willing to pay over twice as much for all aluminum build? I'm not sure Windows 8, despite it's name, is intended as a complete replacement for Windows 7. And who said they aren't going to update/support Windows 7 anymore? Did they announce that? Besides, I'm guessing laptops and tablets are headed in a hybrid direction anyway. And not in the far off future.

I've used a few friends' MBPs for producing and honestly they can handle some heavy stuff, but nothing a Windows machine can't do. I've just never had the problems people claim to have with PCs, ever, in my life. Maybe it's because I grew up around computers (my father has owned his own web business since the mid 90's...I had a Compuserve account...), but I've never really had issues with replacing my PC every year, never had an issue with performance or laggy/broken operating systems, none of that mess. I used Macs in the 90s quite a bit. I really feel like they've duped consumers. For me personally, I can't shell out 2,500 dollars for a fancy hipster laptop, lol. Not to mention I know several people who owned MBPs who had to replace motherboards about every 12 months. Funny because I can replace my laptop for what they paid for the repair. These are the same people who said when they spent all that money on their first Mac: "Oh, this Mac is great, I won't have all those problems anymore!" Motherboard. Fried.

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@ those saying mac is priced too high. while i agree, nothing else compares on the market as far as laptops. i've used a lot of different laptops and nothing touches my macbook pro in my opinion of coarse.

It depends what you mean by nothing touches it. If we're talking performance - there's plenty of PC laptops that will stomp all over it, and obviously PC's leave it in the dust when we take price/performance ratios into account. But if we're talking build quality, then the MBP is probably the most well made laptop on the market. That one piece aluminium chassis is classy, as far as I know there's no PC laptops that come close to this. A few have tried, but for the most part, PC laptops are plastic.

To be honest, I've been thinking of getting a Mac mainly due to the build quality. Also due to the fact that Windows 8 is a joke, I don't really want my laptop resembling a giant smartphone. At least Apple are still supporting their mouse/touchpad customers!

The only Mac I don't like is the new Retina model. It's a total waste of time for anyone who isn't doing intense graphics work. The screen uses more power, is less bright and the whole thing feels sluggish, as it upscalesthen downscales pretty much everything. Plus you can't change the battery - it's built inside the new MBP, and you're talking a couple of thousand ££s minimum.

I'll wait until June, apparently Apple might also be releasing new models with the new Haswell chips in too, I'd like to see what's available before deciding. There's also a chance they may mention Logic Pro 10 or X.

im talking build quality and the performance of the software. for some reason osx seems to make more out of less compared to windows IMO. but yeah when i buy a laptop build quality and things like the trackpad are very important to me and apple has nailed it. however, on the pc side, these attributes dont really matter as the unit will just be sitting in one spot and you can pick your own peripherals anyway. so thats why i build my own PC and turned it into a hackintosh

and yeah i still have a non retina MBP and I love it. it truly is a joy to work with every single day.

I know it is a fact OSX uses less RAM than Windows 7. But not enough to make me spend the money.

[Eat Bass]

@ those saying mac is priced too high. while i agree, nothing else compares on the market as far as laptops. i've used a lot of different laptops and nothing touches my macbook pro in my opinion of coarse.

It depends what you mean by nothing touches it. If we're talking performance - there's plenty of PC laptops that will stomp all over it, and obviously PC's leave it in the dust when we take price/performance ratios into account. But if we're talking build quality, then the MBP is probably the most well made laptop on the market. That one piece aluminium chassis is classy, as far as I know there's no PC laptops that come close to this. A few have tried, but for the most part, PC laptops are plastic.

To be honest, I've been thinking of getting a Mac mainly due to the build quality. Also due to the fact that Windows 8 is a joke, I don't really want my laptop resembling a giant smartphone. At least Apple are still supporting their mouse/touchpad customers!

The only Mac I don't like is the new Retina model. It's a total waste of time for anyone who isn't doing intense graphics work. The screen uses more power, is less bright and the whole thing feels sluggish, as it upscalesthen downscales pretty much everything. Plus you can't change the battery - it's built inside the new MBP, and you're talking a couple of thousand ££s minimum.

I'll wait until June, apparently Apple might also be releasing new models with the new Haswell chips in too, I'd like to see what's available before deciding. There's also a chance they may mention Logic Pro 10 or X.

Well, my ASUS is partially aluminum. And is very solid. What the heck are you doing to your laptop that you are willing to pay over twice as much for all aluminum build? I'm not sure Windows 8, despite it's name, is intended as a complete replacement for Windows 7. And who said they aren't going to update/support Windows 7 anymore? Did they announce that? Besides, I'm guessing laptops and tablets are headed in a hybrid direction anyway. And not in the far off future.

I've used a few friends' MBPs for producing and honestly they can handle some heavy stuff, but nothing a Windows machine can't do. I've just never had the problems people claim to have with PCs, ever, in my life. Maybe it's because I grew up around computers (my father has owned his own web business since the mid 90's...I had a Compuserve account...), but I've never really had issues with replacing my PC every year, never had an issue with performance or laggy/broken operating systems, none of that mess. I used Macs in the 90s quite a bit. I really feel like they've duped consumers. For me personally, I can't shell out 2,500 dollars for a fancy hipster laptop, lol. Not to mention I know several people who owned MBPs who had to replace motherboards about every 12 months. Funny because I can replace my laptop for what they paid for the repair. These are the same people who said when they spent all that money on their first Mac: "Oh, this Mac is great, I won't have all those problems anymore!" Motherboard. Fried.

It's not just the build quality but its all the little things added up into one that makes it worth it for me...the batter life, the unibody construction, the track pad and gestures, the general aesthetics, and lastly just being able to use OSX. i dont care for windows, thats just my personal opinion, im not going to get into the ole mac vs windows debate. i use windows for gaming and thats about it. but yeah idk i just dont see any other laptop on the market that i would consider over a MBP. and building a hackbook is not nearly as easy or effective as building a hackintosh.

oh and about the windows using up more resources. yeah idk for whatever reason my mac side of my hackintosh is always way snappier than the windows side. for some reason the windows side takes way longer to do anything once my login password is typed in. and occasionally it just feels sluggish. idk i think its just the software cuz my computer is a beast, its definitely not my processing power or anything like that.

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^Yea, I'm just a Windows guy. I'm not really hating. Whatever tool works for you is the right tool man : ) That's actually best the argument I've heard...all the little things adding up.

I do have to say that you can go randomly go buy a Mac and if you have any remote idea of what resources you need you know you are getting a good machine. With a PC unless you really do your research you can get screwed hard.

After building what is essentially an ASUS desktop and owning several of their laptops-as a brand--I'm like you with Apple. They've done a lot correctly IMHO. I'm normally not pushy about brands and consumer products with my girlfriend, but I got really pushy when she went to get a new laptop, lol. Besides, I'm a super rebel...I'm not even running an Intel chip...I'm running AMD...in my desktop anyway...lol

[Eat Bass]

^Yea, I'm just a Windows guy. I'm not really hating. Whatever tool works for you is the right tool man : ) That's actually best the argument I've heard...all the little things adding up.

I do have to say that you can go randomly go buy a Mac and if you have any remote idea of what resources you need you know you are getting a good machine. With a PC unless you really do your research you can get screwed hard.

After building what is essentially an ASUS desktop and owning several of their laptops-as a brand--I'm like you with Apple. They've done a lot correctly IMHO. I'm normally not pushy about brands and consumer products with my girlfriend, but I got really pushy when she went to get a new laptop, lol. Besides, I'm a super rebel...I'm not even running an Intel chip...I'm running AMD...in my desktop anyway...lol

haha yeah man its hard not to push your own preferences on people when your in the store buying whatever it is.

and shit man you must be the biggest hipster out there going AMD because intel just got way too mainstream for you lol.

but yeah mac or windows, were all using them for the same goal in the end, so whatever you like, use it. funny though im actually using windows on my hackintosh right now because for some reason my mouse keeps not working on the mac side. i think it has to with because its a nice gaming mouse and there was an update with the firmware on the mouse, since then its been a little bitch. but ill get it sorted. i wanted to make tunes tonight too but now all i can do is play guild wars 2.

[Mason]

loool do you people really pay $2500 for a laptop you could buy a fucking car for that or like 5 windows laptops with much better specs, apple saw you coming.

[Perej]

Macbook pro's are very good laptops though, sorry but they just are.

[Mason]

objectively or subjectively? also i would rather have 5 windows laptops with better processing power than one that looks pretty and made of aluminium.

[VirtualMark]

I'd say objectively. I'm certainly no fanboy of any product - a company is only as good as the last product they sold me. I've also always bought PCs. But if you inspect a MBP, you'll see that they're very well made. My current PC is made of plastic, as are most PC laptops. Whereas the MBP is made of a single piece of machined aluminium.

But as others have pointed out - in the time you owned one MBP, you could afford to replace a PC laptop 2-3 times. So it really depends on what you want. And my current PC laptop has lasted since 2008, so there's certainly no problem with reliability on my model at least. I wouldn't really want a laptop for longer than 4-5 years, things change a lot in that time.

I don't agree that the software is any faster on a Mac tho - my friend has a MBP that has the same specs as my current laptop, and it doesn't feel any faster. It certainly doesn't start Ableton any faster, and in general there's no noticeable difference in performance.

[johndavidambrose]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6834230408

Give a look.

[daeMTHAFKNkim]

MacBookPro 15in. 8GB Ram 2.4gHz 2012 edition. 500GB Hard Drive.

Shit rapes face.

[Mr Hyde]

Macbook Pros are very overpriced and a bit of a fashion item but I'm probably gonna get one soon because I use Logic on an old Macbook and a new iMac and don't want to go getting into new DAW stuff and not having things compatable. I'm quite pissed off about Apple getting me into this trap!

Although I have dropped my Macbook loads of times and 4 years on it still works fine, better than some new PC laptops. My girlfriend recently bought a quite expensive Toshiba ultrabook and there is no way I'd trust that to withstand being dropped, also it already locks up and randomly re-starts, wouldn't trust using it live or having half the life of a Macbook Pro so perhaps they are worth the money in the longrun.

[blinx]

Funny article i read the other day
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57581 ... ws-laptop/

[Marcus]

Funny article i read the other day
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57581 ... ws-laptop/

I'm sure the user doing a fresh install of windows with no bloatware and them having some sort of idea how computers work if they can get bootcamp running ok.

[MikeyOhh]

Zoostorm i5 with 16gb ram and a 1tb hdd. Picked it up for £400 brand new and does the job just fine for me

[Eat Bass]

you def cant afford 5 similar spec'd PC laptops for $2,500 as my macbook pro, especially with an SSD and a normal HDD in it and stuff. You could probably get two, but like I said I'm willing to pay the extra amount to get the product that I enjoy using. You PC guys always get so defensive lol. I'm not telling you why you shouldn't buy a PC. frankly, i don't care what you use. i use what i like to use so let me use it in peace lol. like i said before. i use windows occasionally and i use it to game...so its not like im biasing my responses based on only being a mac guy. i use both, i just prefer mac.

[blinx]

If PC people didnt get so heated when I say that i own and love MBP, even knowing i am paying a premium for it, then id question how good my Macbook Pro really was Haters going to hate, potatoes going to potatoe; at the end of the day im happy as could be and will drink even more apple koolaid when i get thirsty again. Until they stop making quality koolaid that is.

[lloydy]

loool do you people really pay $2500 for a laptop you could buy a fucking car for that or like 5 windows laptops with much better specs, apple saw you coming.

Yep and i paid 2500 for my mbp and over 3g for my mac pro lol.Also i have a car so no need to spend on another one!

Logic pro on mac is a solid application.I've used cubase,acid pro and reason on the pc platform and i can promise i would never go back.Logic just has me sold on every level,it really is a great daw and the sole reason i am a mac user.

[lloydy]

On the subject of it being a fashionable laptop it is for people that way inclined.There is a huge pro apps community that also use mac so that argument sort of falls apart for me.Overpriced yes but solid and reliable YES!

[smalltock]

My PC's shit the bed a lot. They crashed a lot. Then I got a Mac Mini and have rocked that bitch for almost 4 years with no troubles. Best $500 I ever spent! I'd love to get a Macbook. Soon.

Likely a result of buying a pre-assembled machine from a vendor that outsources. Don't do that shit. If you want to have a long-lasting computer, your best bet is to build it or buy from a good vendor. Toshiba, ASUS, Alienware, and some others are very good vendors. HP, Acer, and some others make terrible computers.