Hibbie wrote:With the whole 1D thing, surely that name was given to them before they were HUGE, would of been a bit of a gamble on the goverment's behalf if they never achived the success that they now have
Their success was entirely engineered, you don't believe that?
They are the biggest thing ever I think now...why? there is no good reason why they should be that much bigger than tons of other guff aimed at little girls...engineered
What about all of the other "artists" that have been engineered and shoved through the manufactured popular music machine? Most of them flop or achive very little
success.
Also for an organisation to engineer an artist to achieve success
Like they have would take ALOT of work, of course record companies do this and it works but not always. Seriously think of how much work and money this would cost and the people involved.
To of gambled on a potentional artist to use for whatever means and achieve what they have is just too risky, no organisation has THAT much power.
Suppose you're going to tell me to "wake up" now
I was responding to a very specific comment that said how would "they" know they would be successful enough to provide the platform to brainwash...the fact they were engineered as is all commercially successful music possibly barring a tiny amount means they would be able to implement such a long term plan
i use to talk to guy from disclosure on soundcloud sometimes and send him tunes, like a year and a half ago before they blew up
anyway i used to check out their twitter too, and i remember one time their followers going up by at least 6000 over night
i remember thinking it was pretty weird but this was before they got really huge so i didnt think anything of it.. i checked again a few weeks later and it had gone up a ridiculous amount.
in hindsight it seems pretty obvious what was going on
Hibbie wrote:With the whole 1D thing, surely that name was given to them before they were HUGE, would of been a bit of a gamble on the goverment's behalf if they never achived the success that they now have
Their success was entirely engineered, you don't believe that?
They are the biggest thing ever I think now...why? there is no good reason why they should be that much bigger than tons of other guff aimed at little girls...engineered
What about all of the other "artists" that have been engineered and shoved through the manufactured popular music machine? Most of them flop or achive very little
success.
Also for an organisation to engineer an artist to achieve success
Like they have would take ALOT of work, of course record companies do this and it works but not always. Seriously think of how much work and money this would cost and the people involved.
To of gambled on a potentional artist to use for whatever means and achieve what they have is just too risky, no organisation has THAT much power.
Suppose you're going to tell me to "wake up" now
I think KRS-One said it best when he said major labels are more like banks than anything. The artist may have 'flopped', but unless they're a complete fucking failure, you can guarantee the label made money off of them, or at least made enough to make their money back. Just like a bank making money off loans.
Hibbie wrote:With the whole 1D thing, surely that name was given to them before they were HUGE, would of been a bit of a gamble on the goverment's behalf if they never achived the success that they now have
Their success was entirely engineered, you don't believe that?
They are the biggest thing ever I think now...why? there is no good reason why they should be that much bigger than tons of other guff aimed at little girls...engineered
What about all of the other "artists" that have been engineered and shoved through the manufactured popular music machine? Most of them flop or achive very little
success.
Also for an organisation to engineer an artist to achieve success
Like they have would take ALOT of work, of course record companies do this and it works but not always. Seriously think of how much work and money this would cost and the people involved.
To of gambled on a potentional artist to use for whatever means and achieve what they have is just too risky, no organisation has THAT much power.
Suppose you're going to tell me to "wake up" now
One directions merchandise and books were available before any music was released...where did it all come from and what were they trying to achieve?
I try to avoid cliches like wake up...
@imami like I said their success seemed off key...basically the labels that are in turn owned by other companies owned by other companies are so powerful they can do whatever they want
The Monkees had a TV show before they had a band I think. Like no one is saying that the marketing isn't incredible or denying they are manufactured but you seem to be drawing conclusions that are only superficially related to sense.
rumor has it that when the spice girls first came out, their people bought up all their records so it went to #1 over night even though nobody had really heard of them
i keep seeing spammy tweets about disclosure's new album getting to #1 on itunes over night... hrmmmm...
imami wrote:rumor has it that when the spice girls first came out, their people bought up all their records so it went to #1 over night even though nobody had really heard of them
i keep seeing spammy tweets about disclosure's new album getting to #1 on itunes over night... hrmmmm...
Yeah easiest way is to buy a couple gs worth of a tune and get to number 1 on itunes.
its the main reason i wana be stupidly loaded one day. no interest in sports cars or anything, i would just make sure that this guy was always in the top 10 in itunes:
I'll donate.
I like David Icke and his ideas. Do I believe them all? Of course not, but I find him and his books entertaining.
Really it's no worse than the shit 'History' Channel spits at people all day, and they are HUGE worldwide. And most people don't question it because they are (were) reputable at one point.
Hibbie wrote:With the whole 1D thing, surely that name was given to them before they were HUGE, would of been a bit of a gamble on the goverment's behalf if they never achived the success that they now have
Their success was entirely engineered, you don't believe that?
They are the biggest thing ever I think now...why? there is no good reason why they should be that much bigger than tons of other guff aimed at little girls...engineered
What about all of the other "artists" that have been engineered and shoved through the manufactured popular music machine? Most of them flop or achive very little
success.
Also for an organisation to engineer an artist to achieve success
Like they have would take ALOT of work, of course record companies do this and it works but not always. Seriously think of how much work and money this would cost and the people involved.
To of gambled on a potentional artist to use for whatever means and achieve what they have is just too risky, no organisation has THAT much power.
Suppose you're going to tell me to "wake up" now
One directions merchandise and books were available before any music was released...where did it all come from and what were they trying to achieve?
I try to avoid cliches like wake up...
@imami like I said their success seemed off key...basically the labels that are in turn owned by other companies owned by other companies are so powerful they can do whatever they want
But why not choose an already established artist?? Surley these big pop artists can be controlled through their record companies to produce a concept album or even change their name for the cause?
Would be alot less work, I think they would probably put more work into bigger ways to fuck you over like chem trails, staging false flags, hiding their reptillian roots etc
Pistonsbeneath wrote:the vast majority really, the stuff no-one wants to focus on here...the stuff that's common sense
put it this way I believe more that he say's than any politician I could potentially vote for and would vote for him if his name appeared on a ballot paper...
because despite his controversial views on our origins he actually wants to hold people to account regardless of their status which isn't something that can be said for anyone that runs...
anyway, not interested in arguing but you asked
So I'm good with holding people to account, the problem is when you make some of the claims that's the stuff people want to talk about here he's doing so already having established a lack of credibility. When his claims are reasonable they will be understood in the context of the claims that aren't. That's not actually helping anyone understand anything.
That believing more than any politician is a particularly grand claim when we suppose that politicians are full of shit but we know that he has been.
Doesn't he do the projected reality stuff? Assuming that was true (nothing around us is real; it's an illusion), then surely he is part of that illusion? Or is he omnipresent?
Pistonsbeneath wrote:
I was not surprised when suddenly lots of not that famous anymore people got outed as paedophiles nor am i surprised about the ben fellows disappearance...
yo might be a bit of a sidetrack, but i've been reading about this Ben Fellowes guy and watching these creepy vids - this Ben guy is accusing himopenly, and the party, government and mainstream media is trying to bury it? Because the fact that i can't find a mention of this anywhere in mainstream sources, despite the fact the whole "unnamed senior tory party member" twitter accusation was covered everywhere a few months back, really does strike me as being "off". What's the deal here?
