pitch bend envelope

[ulivolga]

Heyo!
I'm wondering if anyone knows of a good simple way to apply a pitch bend at the end of a triggered note. In other words, the note would be sustained as long as its held, but once released triggers a pitch bend upwards. I imagine it's done with an envelope on the pitch, but how? Been trying to figure this out all day.

[Crimsonghost]

I can't think of anything off the top of my head using envelopes, but you could try overlapping monotone notes with some glide at the end of the phrase your playing.

[ulivolga]

Yeah, thought of that, but it requires writing out the bend for every note! I'm not lazy, I'd do it that way, but just wondering if there's a simpler way to create it as a patch.. Like, think of live playing/recording. The key goes oo-whip! when hit or ooooooooooooooo-whip! when held.

[Ben - Axonic]

What you could do is increase the release on the amp envelope so the sound carries once released, then on the pitch add an envelope with no decay and an extended release, but set the envelope range in the negative direction. May not make sense in words, so here's a quick Massive patch that I think is what you're asking for.
http://www.mediafire.com/?iq8ql9856moscvo

[ulivolga]

Dude! That totally works! The bend is a little slow, but no worries. I'm about to try to figure out how you got it, but CHEERS mate!

[GenericNameHere]

Help a noob out. Wouldn't this make ALL the notes have pitchbend? Wouldn't a pitch wheel make all this irrelevent? Or am I just misreading things?

[Add9]

Help a noob out. Wouldn't this make ALL the notes have pitchbend? Wouldn't a pitch wheel make all this irrelevent? Or am I just misreading things?

Well with this technique all the notes would pitch bend up once the midi note ends, but unless you were moving the pitch wheel while the release was happening it wouldn't do anything to mess up the sound.

[ulivolga]

Yeah, the idea is to have all the notes bend in that ONE instance of massive. So I can use other instances to write melody parts, but when I want the notes to bend, i just switch over to that one! I could use a pitch wheel, but what I was looking for was a way to have it done automatically instead of modulating or automating each note individually. read "lazy" hahaha! That patch saves me lots of time! again, thanks!

[Ben - Axonic]

Of course! Hopefully you can see how I did it, glad I could help!

[GenericNameHere]

:Shrug: To each his own ...

I mostly use IL synths, because of the slide/glide/portamento/stoccato/portato notes functionality within the piano roll ... Gotta love it.

[Ben - Axonic]

Yeaaaahh if those worked with 3rd-party synths, it'd make things much easier

[neonmansion]

Yeah, the idea is to have all the notes bend in that ONE instance of massive. So I can use other instances to write melody parts, but when I want the notes to bend, i just switch over to that one! I could use a pitch wheel, but what I was looking for was a way to have it done automatically instead of modulating or automating each note individually. read "lazy" hahaha! That patch saves me lots of time! again, thanks!

First, I would say don't be lazy. Write in the pitch bends.. and make each one creative and different and subtle... but hell, you aren't going to do that lame crap.. (then again having it embedded in the the patch does offer different results.. more modern.. so yeah

So I guess, in Massive, you could assign an envelope to the pitch parameter of an oscillator/oscillators. You would keep everything UP and have the release trail off.. Then you would set the envelope effects on the pitch either a positive or negative amount (i think it would be reverse tho.. so positive would be dropping etc..)..

Just make sure you have release on your main amp envelope otherwise the note will just cut off when the midi ends..

Does that satisfy??

[ThisIsSovereign]

Just make sure you have release on your main amp envelope otherwise the note will just cut off when the midi ends..

This is really important to remember, otherwise you'll probably get some horrid sounding noise when a note ends.

[ulivolga]

It can be a subtle effect. I used the preset on my sig track.
at :30
Yeah, it's lazy. but it keeps the workflow going without having to spend time on the automation and such. Make sense?

[ulivolga]

Also, i"m aware of the lame tail that you hear at the end of the bar. This song was made in one day, haha!