Dimension Expander vs. Gated Reverb on basses

[alexfsu]

Both seem like good techniques, I was just wondering which you guys preferred.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyHJ6cuE8No

This tutorial exemplifies gated reverb, but someone commented that dimension expander works the same way, and it got me thinking. Thanks.

[fragments]

Why dont you just load uo two of the same patch and check it out for yourself.

[alexfsu]

Why dont you just load uo two of the same patch and check it out for yourself.

I've tried both, I'm just curious what techniques you good people are using.

[Add9]

Are you sure that's the link you meant to post? You said tutorial but that's a track preview.

Anyway personally I use both... dimension expander goes on nearly all my massive basses (assuming you're talking about Massive's dimension expander), then I send the signal to either a really short plate reverb or a longer reverb that's gated. I find that using gated reverb allows me to make the bass sound a lot more "live" as well as bring out the upper frequencies without it sounding harsh. Plus you can eq the reverb which is nice.

[alexfsu]

Thanks add9!

Yeah I meant this link, whoops!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyHJ6cuE8No

[azuk]

I tend to find that Dimension Expander, really, really messes with my mixdowns, so I EQ/Compress it then apply a gated heavy plate reverb and a smaller room reverb.

[Genevieve]

What I mostly do is just send my bass track to a bus, but then after doing so, add a highpass filter around 300/400 hz on the dry signal, add slightly short delay to it and do some more processing (phasers, movement, etc) and then send that hipassed, delayed signal, to the same bus as the innitial signal went. Just mix it in til it sounds good. The delay will have added some width to the track and the signal itself will give it some nice high end bite that dry bass signals often lack. Without adding nasty distortion and weird artifacts.

The finished product goes to a short reverb bus too (where I EQ the left and right side slightly differently, sometimes with some LFO movement goodness). You can do this with a mono innitial bass sound and get some nice and wide/spaced out shit by the end of it.

[mromgwtf]

Dimension expander is chorused short delay just fyi

[Add9]

Dimension expander is chorused short delay just fyi

just curious how you know that... does it say in the manual?

[mthrfnk]

Dimension expander is chorused short delay just fyi

just curious how you know that... does it say in the manual?

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Dimension Expander:
A combination of delay and chorus effects. The Dimension Expander creates very clear room-style spatial effects. The sound is more diffuse than DelayShort, but less cloudy than the Space effects.

[blu2]

http://www.xferrecords.com/freeware/
theres a dimension expander I use from this site. I only really use it on high end unless the bass I'm working with is way too mono. (if that makes sense)

[efence]

Dimension expander is chorused short delay just fyi

just curious how you know that... does it say in the manual?

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Dimension Expander:
A combination of delay and chorus effects. The Dimension Expander creates very clear room-style spatial effects. The sound is more diffuse than DelayShort, but less cloudy than the Space effects.

the exact process is short delay(0-100 milliseconds) with one side phase reversed.
if you mono it, the effect will cancel it self and become unaffected.

[Simulant]

So why would you guys use the dimension expander or reverb instead of using 2 oscillators and panning them slightly?

[efence]

[quote="Simulant"]So why would you guys use the dimension expander or reverb instead of using 2 oscillators and panning them slightly?[/quote
if they are identical they will not sound wide at all, if they are out of phase the will cancel each other if summed.

using a dimensional expander or reverb with the sub cut on bass will give a sense of space but wont cause any phasing if summed on a sub.