The Official Growl Bass Thread

[WolfCryOfficial]

BACK TO THE SUBJECTZ.

Here is a track i made, it seems to be getting pretty popular, im getting lots of great feedback.
It was a remix competition, but all the growls heard were made by yours truly. Give the whole track a listen. So much crazy modulation in the drop. Let me know what ya'll think! Maybe i can teach you a trick or two.

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[azuk]

The growls don't seem to have enough high end, and the intro is to loud, the drop doesn't have much of an impact. You're modulation is on point

[Devilsindub]

BACK TO THE SUBJECTZ.

Here is a track i made, it seems to be getting pretty popular, im getting lots of great feedback.
It was a remix competition, but all the growls heard were made by yours truly. Give the whole track a listen. So much crazy modulation in the drop. Let me know what ya'll think! Maybe i can teach you a trick or two.

Soundcloud

That tracks pretty good man. Were all the growls done in massive, asside from one? I have similar presets. That rapture screech and the lazer hits are almost the exact preset I have. I liked the movement that you had in the growl that had the most sustaining notes, if that makes any sense.

[WolfCryOfficial]

BACK TO THE SUBJECTZ.

Here is a track i made, it seems to be getting pretty popular, im getting lots of great feedback.
It was a remix competition, but all the growls heard were made by yours truly. Give the whole track a listen. So much crazy modulation in the drop. Let me know what ya'll think! Maybe i can teach you a trick or two.

Soundcloud

That tracks pretty good man. Were all the growls done in massive, asside from one? I have similar presets. That rapture screech and the lazer hits are almost the exact preset I have. I liked the movement that you had in the growl that had the most sustaining notes, if that makes any sense.

Thanks for not being a total asshole about it.
I used a special plugin for the growls and LOTS of vocoding. The raptor screech and lasers were made by myself, but they all sound the same anyway. Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed the track.

[Devilsindub]

I wasn't being sarcastic man. I know a lot of ppl are on here but I'm usually not one of them. I didn't explain it well enough I guess. I made my presets as well without help. I was just commenting that it was interesting that we both came up with similar sounds. That's cool though.

[WolfCryOfficial]

I wasn't being sarcastic man. I know a lot of ppl are on here but I'm usually not one of them. I didn't explain it well enough I guess. I made my presets as well without help. I was just commenting that it was interesting that we both came up with similar sounds. That's cool though.

Oh man! I know you weren't!
I was referring to the guy above. You did explain. I really appreciate the welcoming feedback. Makes me feel a lot better about it. Yeah, those sounds are pretty generic though, but my growls were pretty tough lots of processing, lots of fun though.

[azuk]

I don't see why you're calling me out as an asshole, the problem is there, you're drop lacks impact, because the intro is already loud. Your growls don't have the mid-high definition you need for them to properly stand out but the vowels are there, adn they are also a bit quiet. Your growl motion is on point though, and that makes for an interesting drop. Big ups for the modulation m8.

[WolfCryOfficial]

I don't see why you're calling me out as an asshole, the problem is there, you're drop lacks impact, because the intro is already loud. Your growls don't have the mid-high definition you need for them to properly stand out but the vowels are there, adn they are also a bit quiet. Your growl motion is on point though, and that makes for an interesting drop. Big ups for the modulation m8.

Thanks. You're not an asshole, but you called me out on so many flaws, and complimented me on one thing. It kinda upset me, its like throwing a brick in my face.
And the thing that made me most mad is the fact that the growls you posted earlier have nothing near the mid-high range frequency excitement that these had, nor the uniqueness.

I know there are lots of mastering flaws, this is the first song i have ever finished. Ever, check my SC. I'm just agitated.
But thanks, i guess.

[azuk]

I don't see why you're calling me out as an asshole, the problem is there, you're drop lacks impact, because the intro is already loud. Your growls don't have the mid-high definition you need for them to properly stand out but the vowels are there, adn they are also a bit quiet. Your growl motion is on point though, and that makes for an interesting drop. Big ups for the modulation m8.

Thanks. You're not an asshole, but you called me out on so many flaws, and complimented me on one thing. It kinda upset me, its like throwing a brick in my face.
And the thing that made me most mad is the fact that the growls you posted earlier have nothing near the mid-high range frequency excitement that these had, nor the uniqueness.

I know there are lots of mastering flaws, this is the first song i have ever finished. Ever, check my SC. I'm just agitated.
But thanks, i guess.

The growls I posted were attempted remakes of Skrillex's growls but were not characteristic of the growls that I like. Your song doesn't have mastering flaws, rather it has a lot of mixing flaws, I'd read up on mixing.

On topic: I've been experimenting using convolution witth vocoding and eq modulation on sytrus patches, using all of the techniques and trying to get it to shine, but there are way to many resonances after vocoding that are impossible to eq out. WolfCry, you seem to be good at this, wanna hit me up with some good techniques? I'm trying to find a way to make the vocal qualities of the convolution grow more pronounced by exaggerating them through vocoding, then automate the peaks.

[Devilsindub]

I wasn't being sarcastic man. I know a lot of ppl are on here but I'm usually not one of them. I didn't explain it well enough I guess. I made my presets as well without help. I was just commenting that it was interesting that we both came up with similar sounds. That's cool though.

Oh man! I know you weren't!
I was referring to the guy above. You did explain. I really appreciate the welcoming feedback. Makes me feel a lot better about it. Yeah, those sounds are pretty generic though, but my growls were pretty tough lots of processing, lots of fun though.

[Augment]

Funny how u got upset at the one not just praising u, but giving u constructive feedback.
'But it's my first track, tell me its perfect and my growls are the best or i get mad'

[WolfCryOfficial]

Funny how u got upset at the one not just praising u, but giving u constructive feedback.
'But it's my first track, tell me its perfect and my growls are the best or i get mad'

Funny how you didn't read the part where i simply asked for more positive criticism, not throwing bricks in my face.
Funny how you didn't read the part where i stated that it had issues.
Funny how logical you're being.

I can take constructive criticism, but I'm not going to sit here and let some random internet douche walk all over me for little to no reason.

"Your track sucks, the mix down is bad, the drops don't hit hard enough, its too loud."
How about "The mix is bad, try EQing, the drops don't hit hard, try lowering the intro volume, your song is too loud and clipping, try a limiter."

SEE THE DIFFERENCE.

You can't say i suck then do nothing about it, if you have any fucking feedback for me how about you tell me how i can fix my "horrible song" instead of just tell me its fucking horrible.
K thanks? K.

Didn't realize posting in this forum would attract hordes of idiots and assholes.

[Augment]

I honestly don't see how this

The growls don't seem to have enough high end, and the intro is to loud, the drop doesn't have much of an impact. You're modulation is on point

turned into this in your mind

"Your track sucks, the mix down is bad, the drops don't hit hard enough, its too loud."

He said, the growls don't seem to have enough high end. Alright, so you eq the sound to get more high end, or you add a high end layer. Self explanatory, really.

The intro is too loud, the drop doesn't have much of an impact.
Self explanatory solution here again, you turn down the volume of the intro=drop has bigger impact.

This is in no way throwing bricks in your face, it's pointing out what you can work on. If you can't take this kind of feedback, you should get some friends that can sugarcoat all their feedback for you. Honest and straight to the point feedback is more valuable though, imo.

He never said you sucked either, he even gave your modulation a compliment. No one said the song's horrible either, because it's quite decent to be your first song.

And from this statement:

Thanks. You're not an asshole, but you called me out on so many flaws, and complimented me on one thing. It kinda upset me, its like throwing a brick in my face.

it seems like you think positive feedback is all compliments and maybe pointing out one or two flaws. I'd say no, the best critisism is pointing out what you need to work on for the most part, then compliment some of the things you did well. Just like he did. You should really appreciate the feedback he gave, instead of the 'I like this and this, and I have similar presets' because that's not really gonna help in the long run

[WolfCryOfficial]

Words here blah blah big quote ya ya.

I originally typed this big long dramatic thing, but whatever. I changed it to this, carry on with the discussion, lads. I'll do my best to help you all out if you're interested.

[mthrfnk]

I don't see why you're calling me out as an asshole, the problem is there, you're drop lacks impact, because the intro is already loud. Your growls don't have the mid-high definition you need for them to properly stand out but the vowels are there, adn they are also a bit quiet. Your growl motion is on point though, and that makes for an interesting drop. Big ups for the modulation m8.

Thanks. You're not an asshole, but you called me out on so many flaws, and complimented me on one thing. It kinda upset me, its like throwing a brick in my face.
And the thing that made me most mad is the fact that the growls you posted earlier have nothing near the mid-high range frequency excitement that these had, nor the uniqueness.

I know there are lots of mastering flaws, this is the first song i have ever finished. Ever, check my SC. I'm just agitated.
But thanks, i guess.

The growls I posted were attempted remakes of Skrillex's growls but were not characteristic of the growls that I like. Your song doesn't have mastering flaws, rather it has a lot of mixing flaws, I'd read up on mixing.

On topic: I've been experimenting using convolution witth vocoding and eq modulation on sytrus patches, using all of the techniques and trying to get it to shine, but there are way to many resonances after vocoding that are impossible to eq out. WolfCry, you seem to be good at this, wanna hit me up with some good techniques? I'm trying to find a way to make the vocal qualities of the convolution grow more pronounced by exaggerating them through vocoding, then automate the peaks.

Seriously dude what is this convolution stuff you keep posting about, I'm intrigued, you talking about convolution reverb?

[Devilsindub]

Funny how u got upset at the one not just praising u, but giving u constructive feedback.
'But it's my first track, tell me its perfect and my growls are the best or i get mad'

God! Get the fuck over it

[Augment]

Funny how u got upset at the one not just praising u, but giving u constructive feedback.
'But it's my first track, tell me its perfect and my growls are the best or i get mad'

God! Get the fuck over it

I tried to help him see that what he at first saw as an asshole replying actually was decent feedback, what is there to get over?

[Devilsindub]

Funny how u got upset at the one not just praising u, but giving u constructive feedback.
'But it's my first track, tell me its perfect and my growls are the best or i get mad'

God! Get the fuck over it

I tried to help him see that what he at first saw as an asshole replying actually was decent feedback, what is there to get over?

There is a point where constructive criticism becomes a personal attack when the person giving it is too blunt. When someone takes their time in making something that means that they are proud of it in some way. There are better ways to point out someone's flaws then just simply stating them all without hinting at any positives. Although Azuk complimented him on his modulation, he did it after he had put down almost every little flaw in the sound. Another thing, it is ok to give people feedback, but the way he did it sounded cocky. This kind of feedback only makes people defensive. If you can't compose CONSTRUCTIVE criticism that someone can actually absorb then just don't give it. Azuk you're awesome man and I'm not trying to take shots at you. Just try to think about how you say things before you say it.

[Augment]

Funny how u got upset at the one not just praising u, but giving u constructive feedback.
'But it's my first track, tell me its perfect and my growls are the best or i get mad'

God! Get the fuck over it

I tried to help him see that what he at first saw as an asshole replying actually was decent feedback, what is there to get over?

There is a point where constructive criticism becomes a personal attack when the person giving it is too blunt. When someone takes their time in making something that means that they are proud of it in some way. There are better ways to point out someone's flaws then just simply stating them all without hinting at any positives. Although Azuk complimented him on his modulation, he did it after he had put down almost every little flaw in the sound. Another thing, it is ok to give people feedback, but the way he did it sounded cocky. This kind of feedback only makes people defensive. If you can't compose CONSTRUCTIVE criticism that someone can actually absorb then just don't give it. Azuk you're awesome man and I'm not trying to take shots at you. Just try to think about how you say things before you say it.

He pointed out 2 problems and gave 1 compliment. He did not put down almost every little flaw in the sound.
And how one takes blunt feedback really depends on the subject, obviously here it wasn't well recieved, I honestly wouldn't have mind a reply like his to something I made.
And I don't see how this justifies telling me to 'get the fuck over it'. Seems like more of a personal attack than anything else here, which is silly when you're complaining about another dude 'personally attacking' someone.
Peace n love though

[azuk]

I had meant no personal attack, the advice itself is not blunt either, for example i could have said, your mixdown is shit all over the place, your growls sound like dry shit, and your drop is too fucking quiet. This isn't true, but it is blunt advice,