My DAW is better than yours! (Friendly DAW Wars debate)

[SunkLo]

Well saying you don't like it isn't an argument either. An argument would be giving some concrete reasons as to why you think it's inferior to other DAWs.

Reaper is bullshit, I tried it the other day. It's like it's been designed by kids or something, awful cheap daw.

Is that supposed to be a concrete reason?

This thing sucks, it looks like it was made by kids or stupid people or something, wow this is so garbage. I tried it the other day and thought to myself, this is bullshit, what an awful piece of software. This is definitely not a good software. So concludes my in-depth criticism of Reaper.

And why exactly don't you like it?

Because it's bad!

And why do you say it's bad?

Because I don't like it!

Alright then...

[Paddy McMurphy]

Well saying you don't like it isn't an argument either. An argument would be giving some concrete reasons as to why you think it's inferior to other DAWs.

Reaper is bullshit, I tried it the other day. It's like it's been designed by kids or something, awful cheap daw.

Is that supposed to be a concrete reason?

This thing sucks, it looks like it was made by kids or stupid people or something, wow this is so garbage. I tried it the other day and thought to myself, this is bullshit, what an awful piece of software. This is definitely not a good software. So concludes my in-depth criticism of Reaper.

And why exactly don't you like it?

Because it's bad!

And why do you say it's bad?

Because I don't like it!

Alright then...

Wow you really are a condescending prick aren't you? I tried it, I didn't like it, the interface was terrible. That is my opinion, if you don't like it you can fuck off!

[SunkLo]

Alright as long as you're not under the impression that you're doing anything more than shitting on something you tried for an hour for completely arbitrary reasons and not backing up anything you say.

And yeah, I can be pretty condescending to meatwads who think anyone gives a fuck about their unsubstantiated opinions. I think of it like socio-intellectual Darwinism. If you run your mouth about something but can't even formulate any semblance of reasonable justification for what you say, then you should be treated like a prick in my opinion. I'm not one of those people who think the poorly-founded wisps of thought that float through your head are unique shining snowflake miracles. Show me some logic that supports what you're saying and we can discuss. Otherwise you're just another petulant voice in the noise floor. Sorry if that offends you or fails to revere your 10 years of veteran's experience or whatever, but that's the way she goes.

[Paddy McMurphy]

Alright as long as you're not under the impression that you're doing anything more than shitting on something you tried for an hour for completely arbitrary reasons and not backing up anything you say.

And yeah, I can be pretty condescending to meatwads who think anyone gives a fuck about their unsubstantiated opinions. I think of it like socio-intellectual Darwinism. If you run your mouth about something but can't even formulate any semblance of reasonable justification for what you say, then you should be treated like a prick in my opinion. I'm not one of those people who think the poorly-founded wisps of thought that float through your head are unique shining snowflake miracles. Show me some logic that supports what you're saying and we can discuss. Otherwise you're just another petulant voice in the noise floor. Sorry if that offends you or fails to revere your 10 years of veteran's experience or whatever, but that's the way she goes.

You're a stupid tnuc. I told you over and over I don't like the interface, don't you understand? Are you dyslexic, or just terminally stupid?

I see you're a big man on the internet but I'd put money on it that you're too much of a bitch to speak to me like that in person. But if you want to try it I'll happily give you a slap. Now run back to your sisters bed before you really piss me off.

[ehbes]

You're a stupid tnuc.

be nice please

[wub]

Guys, disagreeing with each other is one thing, but try and stop short of out-and-out calling each other rude names.

[outbound]

Guys, disagreeing with each other is one thing, but try and stop short of out-and-out calling each other rude names.

Amen, the keyword in the title is 'friendly'

[RmoniK]

Have you tried it? parallel processing almost always results in phasing. Especially with long chains of plugins.

Obviously you can set it manually with the track delay, but still.

[ehbes]

Guys, disagreeing with each other is one thing, but try and stop short of out-and-out calling each other rude names.

Amen, the keyword in the title is 'friendly'

This thread needs more hugs and feels IMO

[SunkLo]

I kinda see this thread like this tbh:

[hutyluty]

i dont see why everyone always has a go at sunklo lol, you seem like a swell kind of fella

noone ever argues with me despite my best attempts

[eleKtris]

LOGIC FTW! I use it and I love it... no comment, it is absolutely freaking amazing.

[Direflow]

i use FL studio but i feel like a knob because everyone is like "omg u suck u gotta use ableton and reason" i like it and to be honest i don't mind the inconvenience of manually assigning channels and the windowed interface. i also like how it's pattern based too, makes making songs simple to use, but i would like to try other sequence based DAWs like Renoise and Ardour(?).

[Electric_Head]

Reaper is bullshit, I tried it the other day. It's like it's been designed by kids or something, awful cheap daw.

Wow you really are a condescending prick aren't you? I tried it, I didn't like it, the interface was terrible. That is my opinion, if you don't like it you can fuck off!

Saying the interface is terrible when Reaper allows full customization to the layout and interface, is a bit of a stretch.
It is one of the most customizable DAWs out there.
You can literally make it look like any other DAW out there.

[Paddy McMurphy]

Reaper is bullshit, I tried it the other day. It's like it's been designed by kids or something, awful cheap daw.

Wow you really are a condescending prick aren't you? I tried it, I didn't like it, the interface was terrible. That is my opinion, if you don't like it you can fuck off!

Saying the interface is terrible when Reaper allows full customization to the layout and interface, is a bit of a stretch.
It is one of the most customizable DAWs out there.
You can literally make it look like any other DAW out there.

So you can make it look and act like Ableton or FL Studio? I doubt that. And it's not just about looks, I didn't like the way the controls are set up, didn't like the way it has a massive window surrounding VST plugins, and yeah it does look horrible.

The thing about an expensive proper DAW, is that you don't need to customize it to get it to look like one of its competitors, as it's good right out of the box.

[Electric_Head]

So you can make it look and act like Ableton or FL Studio? I doubt that. And it's not just about looks, I didn't like the way the controls are set up, didn't like the way it has a massive window surrounding VST plugins, and yeah it does look horrible.

The thing about an expensive proper DAW, is that you don't need to customize it to get it to look like one of its competitors, as it's good right out of the box.

You missed my point.
If you wanted it to function and look like another DAW, you can.
That does not mean you have to or need to.
I certainly don't have it setup to look like another DAW.
The floating window around vst plugins is also only because you don't know how to float it out of that window which is very simple in Reaper.
Acknowledging the fact that you have spent very little time with it and therefore don't know the subtle nuances of it's functionality, would imo be the first step here.

Not that it makes a difference really.
It's your choice to use which ever DAW suites you.
Just realize that there are more options than you believe there to be.
I won't bad mouth other DAWs unless I have tried them.

I prefer Reaper's layout and functionality to other DAWs I have tried.

[SunkLo]

Plus that little plugin frame comes with a wet/dry knob. Badman mode.

The thing about an expensive proper DAW, is that you don't need to customize it to get it to look like one of its competitors, as it's good right out of the box.

You mean you can't. You can't customize it to look like one of its competitors, right? That's what you're actually saying here? Because I don't know of any other program that conforms to your workflow instead of vice versa. That's why Reaper is so popular with Pro Tools refugees. It offers (more) powerful audio editing and lets you customize it to mimic PT to ease the transition between the two. I'd say that's a pretty attractive feature to people who are looking for something more but have strongly ingrained habits like keyboard shortcuts, toolbars, menus, etc. Reaper is already fantastic out of the box. By no means does it need to emulate other software in order to be a powerful tool. But why not have a program offer it's own unique approach to production and also have the option for it to adapt to your own workflow? Flexibility is a very valuable commodity when it comes to something as idiosyncratic as personal production habits.

Saying "expensive proper DAW" makes you sound like a complete goon. Reaper is very much a proper DAW in the truest sense of the word. It has probably the best audio editing out of anything that I've tried. By the way, the commercial license is $225. Cockos is just smart and offers a significant discount for casual users so they can get started and learn the software without dropping a bunch of money upfront.

[titchbit]

Saying "expensive proper DAW" makes you sound like a complete goon. Reaper is very much a proper DAW in the truest sense of the word. It has probably the best audio editing out of anything that I've tried. By the way, the commercial license is $225. Cockos is just smart and offers a significant discount for casual users so they can get started and learn the software without dropping a bunch of money upfront.

Yeah, it's actually a good business move too because people are less likely to torrent a $60 daw than a $499 daw. I don't know the numbers but I wouldn't be surprised if they made just as much if not more money than other daws (controlling for quantity of users).

[R3b_Official]

Now this talk of customization in Reaper is interesting.... even that dry/wet knob also, can be helpful. Will try it out pretty extensively now

Yeah, it's actually a good business move too because people are less likely to torrent a $60 daw than a $499 daw. I don't know the numbers but I wouldn't be surprised if they made just as much if not more money than other daws (controlling for quantity of users).

Im not sure if its really about a business move, to me it seems like its run buy a good company which is going for a practacal approach, i wouldnt say open source but easy affordable and very customizable work station. Be pretty cool if they did a max for live thing and let people add onto reapers built in stuff

Not sure if this is against the rules but the websites i go on for my torrents or downloads have reaper posted quite frequently and up to date. People would probably still pirate it first to see whats it like and then flush out the "60$" for the daw and maybe donate since is literally such a steal of a price in todays economy. Id do that if i was working or had extra money to spend and not have to get my stuff is cheapy way.

Do good things and good things will happen back to you and reaper is an oxymoron to that

[R3b_Official]

* Laggy internet, double post