Clear Channel kills Young Black Men.

[Doctor_Dave]

hmm alright i'm getting the picture here, but what does 130 promote? I reckon it promotes freeing the realness.

130 promotes excessive ket consumption

no m8, 130 represents basically dubstep, grime, funky, and small bits of house (and not to mention bits of blackdown's mind)

but we dont know what grime is yet cause im not much of a tru hed

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In that article it basically sounds like record labels pushing what sells and then Too Short claiming himself as a conspiracy theorist before suggesting that he thought it was a conspiracy. That's not proof of anything

Maybe his serious stuff was fucking boring? Maybe it would have meant his albums flopped and didn't make the label money. Maybe the labels were just jumping a trend that gangster or sex oriented rap was selling big at the time. Same way labels signing every prog rock band on the planet went "oh fuck this punk thing is selling loads lets abandon all the bands before and chase that"

He said that he was never given the green light to even start it, and his earlier stuff was selling. Don't forget that the major record labels are all part of massive conglomerates that really control what reaches the public, which isn't necessarily a conspiracy as it's so obvious now people have access to alternative sources. Chomsky's book 'Manufacturing Consent' has a good analysis of this phenomenon and has plenty of references to check against. Ever thought that what sells good wasn't manipulated to be that way in the first place? People choose things to buy that are marketed to them with the illusion of choice, which was highly controlled in the mainstream before the internet facilitated online sales.

Besides, the sun comparison doesn't fucking work. It's not spreading lies to have shallow hip hop on the radio. People want music like that. As I said you want dumb lyrics about sex and catchy hooks for club rap bangers. Gangster rap rose up from the underground because it reflected some sort of shift in music or culture that then could be sold on a worldwide level. Even if it was having a negative effect anyway (which would be on a small level compared to what people think. It's likely to be a reflective form of art rather than the cause) I'd rather that than some overly sensitive nanny state type situation where only positive rap gets played like you are almost hinting at. It's not like suing a newspaper for spreading the wrong message if gang warfare takes place, if rappers are partying and taking drugs, if they are going home with girls from clubs, if they are spending money on silly shit. It's artistic expression even if you don't like it. An art form people like that labels and radio stations can then push as much as they want to do business

The newspaper comparison works on the basis that content is broadcast to the public in a certain way that has a negative effect. It's talking about daytime radio, sales are R-rated for a reason as children are way more impressionable than adults.

You're acting the same way as the sort of person that would ban all horror movies just incase a child sees it.

I haven't said ban it all. I'm not a puritan and I actually think pornography laws in the UK are too strict and discriminate against females. France doesn't think a certain amount of exposure means you have a porn problem because, let's be fair, all women have tits and Swedish women campaigned to have breasts considered de-sexualised in certain situations that would be equal to men which I think is fair. There are controls a society agrees on for certain material because of the effect it has on certain people in their culture (which isn't always universal).

Come on man just seriously can't you see that people don't want to listen to preachy sit and home and listen to the lyrics on headphones hip hop when they're out in the club, at parties or in their car.

No-one's said play preachy shit all day man, just take the gangster stuff off daytime radio. People can play what they want on their own stereos if they want as far as I care, as long as it not shouting cuss words and murder with the windows down pissing off other people you know what I mean. People from Jamaica think I've got a bad mouth, cussing in public ain't taken too kindly over there apparently and I was kind of taken aback because I'm not that bad on UK standards wow

You also ignored the case of Kendrick Lamar's most recent album which is a valid example of how to make a hit in hip hop and not promote negative behavior. Why would he be so popular if it was some stupid conspiracy? Also still you aren't paying attention to the fact that pop music in general isn't some intelligent meaningful movement, so why expect mainstream hip hop to be so?

He's good, just checked out some stuff (Swimming Pool and Money Trees are pretty sweet) but he's still unusual as far as I can see in the mainstream hip-hop scene. Looking over the lyrics though there's nothing like Public Enemy etc calling for change but fuck it, it's neutral as far as I can tell. It's still beef I've got with the industry in general otherwise, promoting people who have no talent other than looking cool (or making people with brains look like they're retarded, like Ke$ha). I work with kids and they're fucking impressionable, you know? It's not just this, but they see celebs on magazines, TV, radio, being brain-dead but rich and loving it, making it look so easy. You might also want to consider that (correct me if I'm wrong) Mala was a youth worker and glamlourisation of attacks on other people, degrading behaviour, glorification of violence, is conspicuously absent from his music, and dubstep in general. Pop isn't an intelligent movement because it's not made to be that way, but it could be marketed to be so, so why isn't it?

People will generally accept whatever's given to them, as long as it's not conflicting with their worldview (i.e. confirmation bias). The media outlets, cross-owned across formats by about 8 companies owning 90% of output if I remember correctly, just aren't putting out anything that challenges their position (which you might say is obvious, but it should be questioned as to why it's been let get to that). They can create a worldview, for example anti-immigrant fear in the UK tabloids, which doesn't reflect reality. OP contests that daytime radio in the form of the Clear Channel company, has over-played material that promotes a negative worldview and should be changed. If you don't think the media has no effect on people you seriously need to read a bit behind the scenes for the facts that get filtered out by mainstream channels.

OP's bottom line says take negative shit off daytime radio, how can you disagree with that? Even so, consider your values. For example, do you think glamourising killing people is cool? You can generally listen to what you want behind closed doors, but remember what you get permission is still a matter of values. E.g. songs about killing Jews for being Jews is bad, right? What about if it's a song about how the Holocaust was (fucking rightly) a complete abhorrence? Same content, different values being promoted. So, take different content: killing people because you don't like them, they're just a different group you feel against. How banal is that? How would a person with any kind of conscious want to portray that?

You might think I'm going over the top, but I've stated before in this post that we're not talking about blanket bans on this stuff, just daytime radio. I'm also talking from experience that I'm so fucking against this kind of stupid violence, waste man hustling bull shit; I understand people need to do some underhand stuff in a tight spot and I don't have anything against drug dealers etc as long as they're honourable but I've seen and been on the end of so much shit we need to stop this crap because it's so unnecessary. You ever been held hostage in your own house with shanks and gats? Or on your own doorstep with a screwdriver digging in to your throat, trying to force you to open the door to catch your mates inside? I fucking truthfully told the prick I was locked out, fucking stand off between me and this guy in front of the front window with my mates just staring out the fucking window slack jawed, they could hear me telling this guy straight no, I just got wacked up and he ran off, I'm lucky he's so dumb he didn't think of twocking the key or we wouldn't be sleeping that night my mates even rob each other on a regular basis, this whole thing is bullshit and it's no good for anyone. You think it doesn't spread in to the rest of society? I've known someone murder their own grandmother in her home and I'll PM you the fucking news reports if you don't believe me. My mates have been kidnapped out of pubs and held hostage to blackmail their friends, fucking hostile situations. I can't walk certain areas of fucking LEEDS of all fucking places without having to worry about some prick trying to pick me up for who I know, however fucking tangentially. Leeds isn't even as bad as other places, guns and knives are infrequently used in comparison to other places.

It's a society-wide problem, and needs a corresponding response. OP says certain applications of censorship that are not blanket coverage and only restrict exposure in the daytime without prohibiting adult consensual access, would help. As with most news though, it doesn't talk about other areas that need attention, and economic inequality is certainly related. After living in other countries, the UK's problems, and probably America's by the sounds of it, are not normal and are products of related social factors that can rectified with measures which do not include suppressing the population with the current police control of suppressing the population, or blanket censorship.

As I was saying before, let's get back on OP.

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How many percy pigs do you think 50 cent can eat in a minute?

[garethom]

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hmm alright i'm getting the picture here, but what does 130 promote? I reckon it promotes freeing the realness.

Hardtrance promotes excessive ket consumption

Fixed

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How many percy pigs do you think 50 cent can eat in a minute?

Maybe he got his name because he could as much as his name's worth. What about 50 pence? What does That get you now?