Musical Geniuses Of The Last Decade - your choices?

[garethom]

question of anybody that knows the emergent Bristol crew:
Which of them is most likely to produce the most original, influential tunnage?
pennyfroobs ^ is likely to say Kahn. what say others?

Original: Vessel (and his many alter egos) or Jabu
Best, but either less original or not original at all: Kahn.

[garethom]

I like Drake and Kendrick, but not sure they can be termed "musical" geniuses can they? Aren't they just vocalists, for want of a better word?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but they don't do any production do they? So if anyone's "changing the game" with Drake, surely it's people like 40?

[Sonika]

I like Drake and Kendrick, but not sure they can be termed "musical" geniuses can they? Aren't they just vocalists, for want of a better word?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but they don't do any production do they? So if anyone's "changing the game" with Drake, surely it's people like 40?

Say what you will about Drake, but Kendrick Lamar is a lyrical genius, hands down. He's been killing it since Overly Dedicated. I honestly think he's the best thing to have happened to hip hop since the early 2000s. I know that's not the type of "musical" that people were referencing in this thread but lyrics are a part of music so it's appropriate

And it's a collaboration between 40 and Drake, how the beats are tailored for Drake and how Drake's voice is tailored for the beats, which is why I listed them together

[ultraspatial]

Kahn's the one who's produced the widest range of stuff.

I rate Zhou tho Locust Tree is big

locust dub > locust tree imo

[DiegoSapiens]

amen

[DiegoSapiens]

but i remain<<<<<<<locuts dub locust tree

[m8son666]

Kendrick Lamar is a lyrical genius

nope

[kidshuffle]

I like Drake and Kendrick, but not sure they can be termed "musical" geniuses can they? Aren't they just vocalists, for want of a better word?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but they don't do any production do they? So if anyone's "changing the game" with Drake, surely it's people like 40?

Say what you will about Drake, but Kendrick Lamar is a lyrical genius, hands down. He's been killing it since Overly Dedicated. I honestly think he's the best thing to have happened to hip hop since the early 2000s. I know that's not the type of "musical" that people were referencing in this thread but lyrics are a part of music so it's appropriate

And it's a collaboration between 40 and Drake, how the beats are tailored for Drake and how Drake's voice is tailored for the beats, which is why I listed them together

Usually i just dig at your age for giggles, but this is one of those things you just have no idea about. This is the equivelent of kids your age going off about classic rock because they've heard some their dads records.

[kidshuffle]

Kendrick is nice lyrically, but everything about him bites Q Tip so fucking hard, sans afrocentric lyrics.

[Genevieve]

Well, even if Kendrick was one of the dopest lyricists, big if because I have no opinion on it. Hip-hop hasn't really been lyrical this past decade, so it wouldn't say much.

People will probably post up links to shit but I don't think it would shake me much. It's no jab at hip-hop either because I think style beats lyrics any day. But we haven't had that many Pharoahe Monches, Eminems, Ras Kasses or Shabaam Saadiqs. In fact, I'd say Eminem was one of the last truly lyrical MCs to come out and that was in the late '90s.

You can have dope lyrics without being a dope lyricist, though.

How can "changing the game" be a reflection of genius btw? Korn and Limp Bizkit changed the game. "Changing the game" is lots of people picking up on what you do. What you do can be pretty shit. And often times it's in concert with the right media outlets picking it up at the right time with the right promotion and the right label.

To restate what I said on the first page:

It's just a loaded buzzword tbh.

It's just a 'favorite artists of the decade' thread in disguise where various people pull out some standards they personally believe are semi-objective.. sort of.. kind of.. by their standards and then argue them and disagree with people who don't share their taste or that magical standard

[Sexual_Chocolate]

Kendrick is nice lyrically, but everything about him bites Q Tip so fucking hard, sans afrocentric lyrics.

holy shit. thats who he reminds me of!

[garethom]

I know yeah! Kidshuffle coming with the revelations.

[BonerJams04]

holy fuck kendrick is qtip
how have i never noticed this

[exfox]

pearson sound

[murky21]

Filthzilla

[particle-jim]

^He'll show up any second now that you've typed his name

[hubb]

Well, even if Kendrick was one of the dopest lyricists, big if because I have no opinion on it. Hip-hop hasn't really been lyrical this past decade, so it wouldn't say much.

Exactly, styles like canibus', eminem or big pun sound so dated now.
Its only been about style and swagger for a while and that's why, the times where Kendrick tries to get those '98 backpacker cred points for doing one of his complex for the sake of complex- flows, it holds less weight now because the moments where he is crooning is so cringey and 'honest' -
those two just doesn't mix well at all.

[Pedro Sánchez]

Well, even if Kendrick was one of the dopest lyricists, big if because I have no opinion on it. Hip-hop hasn't really been lyrical this past decade, so it wouldn't say much.

Exactly, styles like canibus', eminem or big pun sound so dated now.
Its only been about style and swagger for a while and that's why, the times where Kendrick tries to get those '98 backpacker cred points for doing one of his complex for the sake of complex- flows, it holds less weight now because the moments where he is crooning is so cringey and 'honest' -
those two just doesn't mix well at all.

Something average in a sea of shit.

[Genevieve]

Think there's lots of room for style in hip-hop. I don't think that's necessarily average. Dope lyrics can't save a terrible beat to me if delivery and style are lacking, but a good style def contributes.

I think a minority of rappers are truly good lyrically. It's like guitar players. Most of the highly esteemed guitarists are esteemed for their style, only very few are technically impressive and innovative with the instrument. That's what it's like with rappers too. Tbh, lots of people give props to rappers for being super lyrical merely because they like them. Like all those backpack kids did in the early 00s, bigging up rappers who sounded exactly like mainstream rappers, only difference being that they talked shit about the mainstream.

[SCope13]

People will probably post up links to shit but I don't think it would shake me much. It's no jab at hip-hop either because I think style beats lyrics any day. But we haven't had that many Pharoahe Monches, Eminems, Ras Kasses or Shabaam Saadiqs. In fact, I'd say Eminem was one of the last truly lyrical MCs to come out and that was in the late '90s.

DOOM tho