Neuro bass patterns

[Psychs420]

When you make your neuro loops for your basss patch,how do you approach this??Ive pretty much hit a brick wall when trynna make loops and catchy riffs??I normally just make a good sounding patch on massive,throw a performer filter on the cutoff,randomize record and chop up from there.Anyone else have any interesting ways of doing this??Ive gottten bored of the method i always use and would love some insight on what everyone else does

[NinjaEdit]

My last attempt got stale. You can try playing the filter for a bunch of passes, then chopping it up, or just automating the filter.

Try neurohopforum.com

[forbidden]

try automating attack times. automate things like the wet/dry on the dimension expander in massive (but watch out for phasing) and the reverb as well. the performer is cool but it can't do all the work on its own.

[Echoi]

Plenty of glide/portamento, play with lots of notes, low ones high ones, mix it up

[Eskimo]

Check Emperors live streams, should give you some insight!

[Genevieve]

Write the drums and then the main melody. Add bass notes and use the pitch wheel/envelopes on the bass to write the bass parts. Adapt the filter settings to the pitch glide.

[TheReptilianElite]

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I want to comment on your question by giving you the above example. I know it's a work in progress above, but the way I went about creating this song is by first starting with the arp beginning riff and then started to create drum patterns. By doing so I opened up the possibility of direction and where I wanted to go next as well as found a key to write in.

With the "drops" those were essentially written by first creating an instrument rack and having both the main bass and sub bass together. I kept the section on loop so I can properly automate parameters and be mindful of cohesive mixing. The positive of having the sub and main on the same instrument rack while writing is that you can hear what I like to refer to as "the big picture". I don't really ever recommend keeping the 2 basses on the same track and bouncing them both down to audio - you can create quite the nightmare if you need to go back and adjust frequencies later. Split them when the time comes and let er rip.

The more powerful melodic drop was then just adding phrases on synths to create more depth to the song. Try to keep your bass phrasing simple. You don't need to go Jackson 5 and have 20 notes per 8 bars. Keep it relatively simple and be subtle with processing. It will eventually come together. I can also say that it is extremely helpful to always have the final vision in mind. Sometimes it's hard to take what you hear in your head and apply to audio - but also by doing so or attempting to do so - you can create some radular stuff you otherwise may not have if you stayed in your comfort zone.

Either way, use the synths melodies and drums around you to create the neuro bass phrases. Let the song work for you, not you for it. You'll be doing that plenty come mixing/mastering. LOL

Good luck mate!

[TheReptilianElite]

Also, I'm guessing you bounce your basses to audio before chopping. Try this technique when doing so:
Create main bass track
Create sub bass track

Solo each one with whatever riff you decide on.
Make sure that each track is not clipping or peaking
Create a new Audio track and set it to resampling.
Solo first the main bass track and hit record so that you record the main bass MIDI to audio in your newly created Audio track.
Do the same for the sub bass except make sure the main bass is not playing along with it.

You should now have an audio track for your main and sub. Don't delete the MIDI/processed tracks because you may need them again later.

There you go! Now you can chop up the sub with the main together while maintaining their individual tracks for further processing (and continuity). You can also take those audio samples and toss them into Sampler or your sampler of choice and go crazy. Have fun. Hope that helps.