Sub bass level

[mromgwtf]

And are you getting a room treatment as well?

Considering I can hardly afford monitors, I doubt it. But still, its something to think about in the future.

Then get good headphones. Headphones are MUCH better than monitors in an untreated room.

[Icetickle]

And are you getting a room treatment as well?

Considering I can hardly afford monitors, I doubt it. But still, its something to think about in the future.

Then get good headphones. Headphones are MUCH better than monitors in an untreated room.

Can you produce with headphones like Bayerdynamic without the monitors?

[PhotonOfficial]

And are you getting a room treatment as well?

Considering I can hardly afford monitors, I doubt it. But still, its something to think about in the future.

Then get good headphones. Headphones are MUCH better than monitors in an untreated room.

Can you recommend a decent pair of headphones?

[mromgwtf]

And are you getting a room treatment as well?

Considering I can hardly afford monitors, I doubt it. But still, its something to think about in the future.

Then get good headphones. Headphones are MUCH better than monitors in an untreated room.

Can you recommend a decent pair of headphones?

It all depends on how much money you have.

[bassinine]

really depends on the track. although generally speaking you want between -16dB and -10 dB (-10 being VERY loud in the mix).

personally, i mix to around -12dB on the sub - AFTER 4dB of saturation and a 12db/oct low pass AROUND 100hz.

if you're losing headroom get the sub to duck for the kick... unless you're following your kick with your sub that is. if this is the case you'll want to solo your kick and sub tracks, and make sure they don't go over -10db on the master when played together.

also, fucking burn your WIP's to cd and play them in your car/friends car, home stereo, headphones, earbuds, etc.

this is very important during the learning process, and will give you a much better grasp on mix-downs on systems that you're not familiar with or that don't have flat frequency responses.

[titchbit]

also, fucking burn your WIP's to cd and play them in your car/friends car, home stereo, headphones, earbuds, etc.

or just put them on your iphone/ipod/mp3 player

[bassinine]

oh, we got a big shot over here, with his fancy "mp3" player.

[mromgwtf]

Hey there.

So lately, I've been wondering why every song that I make sounds so quiet compared to everybody elses, (not just the pros) and I was wondering if it had something to do with the sub bass.

Basically, after the mixdown, when everything sounds perfect, I will do the mastering or whatever. There are no extravagant peaks and everything is compressed nicely, yet even after limiting, the song is still really quiet.

The speakers that I use are absolutely awful. Two logitech speakers and a subwoofer that goes down to 80hz that doesn't work. Obviously, the sub bass sits well below 80hz and is completely inaudible, so I have to increase the volume of the sub to combat this.

Which is why I think a lot of my songs are very quiet; although I can't hear the sub and have everything sounding nicely, in reality, the sub actually takes up too much headroom because it is too loud.

I managed to get a chance to play my music through some decent monitors the other day and I noticed that the sub did sound quite a bit too loud.

Because it is impossible for me to mix the sub by ear, I need some help:

If my drums are peaking at about -9dB, how loud should my sub bass be? Bearing in mind that the sub is usually heavily compressed so that the level says pretty consistent.

Thank you, I look forward to the help:)

Well I just realized this thread is about loudness in the first place.
If you noticed your sub bass is too quiet, then your song should be louder than others, because you have more headroom.
I recommend you getting the TT Dynamic Meter, it is amazing and will help you achieve your loudness. A/B with other tracks. And remember the loudness comes from the mixdown, not from the master. Because if your mixdown is bad, and you slam a limiter on top of it, peaks of your track will confuse the limiter, and it'll just sound unnatural.

[titchbit]

oh, we got a big shot over here, with his fancy "mp3" player.

I didn't want to assume everyone had an ipod/iphone after you mentioned burning a CD just to listen to a song in your car.