Ketamine 'should be upgraded to Class B'

[alphacat]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25301908

Dude, that shit about people needing their bladders surgically removed. WTF?

[OGLemon]

@agent

[DiegoSapiens]

A guy invited me for first time to k at Dimensions and it was pretty shit, it was really an effort to be at a rave with the bass, anoying people around etc maybe i would like it at my bed with headphpnes

[wolf89]

Well, I'm not going to go into why but personally I am generally someone who leans towards the idea of decriminalizing drugs and focusing on education and treatment and the like.

but if we're going to still keep this weird ranked system then it deserves it. It turns people into fucking idiots and ruins your bladder. I have mates who got fully into it and I saw a change in them. They got slow and their short term memory went out of the window. Also my brother has done it a fair bit and when I'm waiting outside the bathroom in the morning and can hear through the door he pisses like an old man. He's 19

[ezza]

all in moderation my friends

i have no idea if this is tru, neither do i have any evidence to back it up, but i like to believe that if u dont do something for a week or so and then u do it again its like doing it for the first time. it makes sense. u do it, it flushes out your system. i reckon it gets bad when u start taking a substance again while your bodys still trying to filter out the last lot you did

if some one could explain how that is wrong in laymans terms id be very greatful. u may even save my bladder. in which case, big ups will be given

[OGLemon]

I pretty sure that's not how it works.

- OGLemonDSF MD

Payment: 1 big up

[ezza]

if u give me evidence why, ill big u up again

[OGLemon]

http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/r ... ocaine-use
Your body adapts to the drug so you become tolerant to it. I suppose this applies to most drugs including ket.

- OGLemonDSF MD

[DiegoSapiens]

With some drugs you loose tolerance with time and others not (md for example) dont know how it works with k thou

[ezza]

tolerance isnt the point im making tho

surely the damage comes from constant use of your body always trying to process a toxin

if you do it and then over the next 5 days your body flushes it out your system surely your good to go again

[OGLemon]

Probably takes a toll on your body to flush it out though.

[DiegoSapiens]

How does your body "flushes out" a erosion in your organ tissue in Less than 6 months?
Anyway i think the worst thing is not that but loosing memory and becoming a diferent person as wolf said, plz agent never change

[alphacat]

Agent, this is only true if your body has the chemical "tools" to break it down. In the case of synthetics, your body does not.

http://www.ketaminebladdersyndrome.com/KBS/Welcome.html

[kaili]

ket is really psychologically addictive so watch it agent tbh
i crave it all the time even tho i havent done it for like a good 3-4 months or somethin
its great but moderation means like a binge once a month max, not every week lol
but ye if weed is class b it makes sense for ket to be C as well

[Samuel_L_Damnson]

you ket ed!
A guy i know over here (kaili knows him, bet you can guess to ben) like hammers this shit daily its kind of worrying, hes already had like days at a time where he couldnt leave his room because of the pain.

[SCope13]

would probably try it once if i came across it. Not exactly common where I live by any stretch of the imagination so chance of dependence would be pretty slim.

[wolf89]

would probably try it once if i came across it. Not exactly common where I live by any stretch of the imagination so chance of dependence would be pretty slim.

Don't bother. It just makes you all slow and dumb. I had a funny conversation the time I took it but other wise just spent the time sat down in a chair feeling like a right speng.

[bennyfroobs]

agent it takes a lot longer than a week for ur body to properly get rid of stuff like ket

[bennyfroobs]

"If people want to take drugs, let them do it.... Give people the option of doing it in a safe environment. Why ban something and ruin it for thousands of safe users because one idiot cant handle it... Not that I agree with ketamine, I have seen what it does to people but at the end it is their lives and bodies..."

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[test_recordings]

I read that one of the problems came from classifying it as illegal since people then cooked it up, reducing the potency but retaining the toxicity.

There are a lot of side effects, but most people get them from not knowing what they are. Public health approach and legalise it, but make sure people know about what it does imo