[Interview] FourTet - Breaking Out Of The Cycle

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Re: [Interview] FourTet - Breaking Out Of The Cycle

Post by Capture pt » Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:35 pm

jesus that is *literally* a laptop and speakers.

mental. I love sampling

tho I must add, I'd pick that snare out a million miles away 10 out of 10 times ha

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Re: [Interview] FourTet - Breaking Out Of The Cycle

Post by Johoosh » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:56 am

Great interview in the OP wub :4:

Refreshing to see someone producing on almost exactly the same setup i have going (swap FL for Ableton), just in his front room too :D

Too right about the analogue gear as well, too much shit is put out that is heralded simply because it was 'made entirely on analogue' or is 'raw' whilst it is really average. Give me 3 osc any day.
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Re: [Interview] FourTet - Breaking Out Of The Cycle

Post by wub » Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:08 pm

Johoosh wrote:Great interview in the OP wub :4:

Refreshing to see someone producing on almost exactly the same setup i have going (swap FL for Ableton), just in his front room too :D

Too right about the analogue gear as well, too much shit is put out that is heralded simply because it was 'made entirely on analogue' or is 'raw' whilst it is really average. Give me 3 osc any day.
I don't even think it's that...whatever you use, just know how to get the best out of it and keep it simple. I'm no Ableton head, but as far as I could tell in that video all that was used was Audacity, Simpler and some EQ?

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Re: [Interview] FourTet - Breaking Out Of The Cycle

Post by nowaysj » Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:15 pm

Agreeing. Whatever it is that you use, know it blindfolded. Make the thing become invisible. You could have a mansion with every room a modular, and if you know it all, you're going to coherently manifest your vision through all that gear and it is going to be amazing. You have audacity and a connection to youtube, same thing.

With that said, a good eq, comp, and limiter help (soft or otherwise). :lol:
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Re: [Interview] FourTet - Breaking Out Of The Cycle

Post by nowaysj » Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:27 am

wub wrote:
Finally got to listen to this. Informative.

Will anyone join me in a slight nerd out? I'm faded and can barely see the screen. How is he working with this audio? It looked like he was working with it inside of a sampler, but I didn't see him writing or editing midi notes. Was he just working with it as audio in the arrange page?
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Re: [Interview] FourTet - Breaking Out Of The Cycle

Post by wub » Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:06 am

As far as I took it to understand;
  • Records in via Audacity (yay, Audacity :U: )
  • Ableton Simpler
  • Notes clicked in rather than 'recorded' via MIDI, though I imagine the shortcut keys were activating some sort of groove template giving how the rhythm changes
  • Adjusting the start/end point of the sample via Simpler to get the desired effect
Honestly, it's stuff like this that makes me want to get a cheap laptop and copy of Ableton 9 just to mess around with :u:

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Re: [Interview] FourTet - Breaking Out Of The Cycle

Post by nowaysj » Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:10 am

Kowacevic owes you a raise.
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Re: [Interview] FourTet - Breaking Out Of The Cycle

Post by nowaysj » Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:11 am

And you can replicate this workflow in fl. Surely.
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Re: [Interview] FourTet - Breaking Out Of The Cycle

Post by wub » Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:16 am

Surely, yes. But the Ableton idea as an extra machine would add nicely to my portable studio ideas.

And is there a fast & dirty way of getting groove templates up in FL to add shuffle?

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Re: [Interview] FourTet - Breaking Out Of The Cycle

Post by nowaysj » Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:17 am

Hmmm, why couldn't fl be portable?
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Re: [Interview] FourTet - Breaking Out Of The Cycle

Post by wub » Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:21 am

nowaysj wrote:Hmmm, why couldn't fl be portable?
No reason especially, just with Ableton we then have the possibility of incorporating into a live show, whereas the live test stuff I've seen about FL hasn't been all that inspiring. And another string to the bow, bonus.

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Re: [Interview] FourTet - Breaking Out Of The Cycle

Post by nowaysj » Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:28 am

wub wrote:And is there a fast & dirty way of getting groove templates up in FL to add shuffle?
Yes, if I understand your question. I mean, was he warping audio to some type of template? Or applying a groove template to midi? I believe I saw a demo of like warping audio in 11 in maybe NewTone. So fogged out. Better input later. But defo super easy to apply midi groove templates.

To change the groove of audio though, I just edit it in the playlist, just as a multitrack audio editor. If I want to move like a hat hit, i'll just cut the fucker, slide it, and then if done, group those chunks, and copy paste as they loop.

We're quick posting ourselves :) yeah I feel you. I've been working across two machines. And a few different applications. It is nice because they act as barriers, containing songs. Only when a song is like getting out of hand, will I go through the trouble of gathering it up, and moving it into another environment. It is a ball ache doing that. But it does add another layer to the whole thing. A whole new dimension. And a whole new level of seriousness. A lot of stuff that I've been doing has started on a 300$ laptop. Finished some too.
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Re: [Interview] FourTet - Breaking Out Of The Cycle

Post by wub » Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:33 am

And see, I get on this train of thought and start watching videos like this;



And now I'm pricing up Ableton 9 solutions :u:

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Re: [Interview] FourTet - Breaking Out Of The Cycle

Post by nowaysj » Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:39 am

Can audio to midi in fl. They had it first, in fact. But can't watch that vid now :( too late. Don't know if they're doing anything special with the functionality, what I'd love to see is like live looping, as audio was going to midi, and then getting fucked with there live in the loop.

I know the live performance is important to you. It is to me actually. But everytime I try to set it up, it is too monumental with barriers that require max for live, and I just don't have the hours are moral strength to do it. Sold my apc40 which was a really nice bit of kit. But in terms of composition, just working with audio in fl's playlist is dope. Like a freer, sketchier environment than the old venerable cool edit pro.
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Re: [Interview] FourTet - Breaking Out Of The Cycle

Post by wub » Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:44 am

That reminds me, I have to get my old laptop + Cool Edit Pro + SP404 setup at some point. Have to chase the missus to transfer everything she wants off her old Fuji onto her Mac so I can get on that. So many projects, so little time. Wait. Time is something I have so much more of now. And space, Hopefully the space I have to create my mad scientist lab will expand exponentially in the next few months.

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Re: [Interview] FourTet - Breaking Out Of The Cycle

Post by nowaysj » Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:46 am

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Re: [Interview] FourTet - Breaking Out Of The Cycle

Post by societyloser1 » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:03 pm

For those who haven't checked this out!


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Re: [Interview] FourTet - Breaking Out Of The Cycle

Post by wub » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:24 pm

societyloser1 wrote:For those who haven't checked this out!


:U:
Already linked in this thread back here - http://www.dubstepforum.com/forum/viewt ... 8#p3554076


Awesome video though, very inspiring what he does with what is essentially 'old' kit. This video is the main reason I have an SP-404 next to me right now :lol:

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Re: [Interview] FourTet - Breaking Out Of The Cycle

Post by wub » Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:47 pm

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Re: [Interview] FourTet - Breaking Out Of The Cycle

Post by rockonin » Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:17 pm

I'm pretty new to Burial and only just properly discovered/got into his stuff. I have literally listened to his music everyday for the last two months. Is Burial this guy on the left or is he still unkown?
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