'pseudo' philosophy from real artsy fella

[hifi]

well, kinda
these are long
"If scientists claim we are animals in the most literal sense, then why are millions of animals experimented with in the most destructive and cruel ways? If taking out someone's eyes against their will just to see how they behave blind is wrong, why is it right to do to other animals? Or is survival of the fittest the justification for that? Scientists gawk at creationists who believe we are above animals, and though creationists are typically the ones through history who wouldn't dare condone such horrid things, the evolutionists are the ones who should feel the most condemned based on their beliefs.. Seems kinda hypocritical. If an animal doesn't have a soul I would think it's life should be all the more respected, but Idk, maybe I'm wrong.."

"I believe science today must address the mysteries of the universe in a manner that is more respectful and neutral rather than assuming of opposition to the ideologies of religion, and visa versa. For years scientific inquiry was rejected by the church, who said man was made in gods image, as we clearly are an incredibly advanced species. Understandably, this spiritual perspective was opposed as Darwin and other great thinkers came to reject it from scientific inquiry, thinking our greatness came from a slow process of natural selection. Science made a point not to be too superstitious, but rational, to seek knowledge with only the five senses by which we live. Which is why scientists can only claim we are one with nature and the animals.
But what my question is to either side, with our consciousness in all its' complexity, and our intellect in all it's excellence, if we are animals to the scientists or gods to the creationists, how is it that our capacity for hypocrisy and evil seems to have no bounds? In the era of Darwin, for the first time, millions of animals were assailed by a frenzy of cruel and unusual experimentation. Mans new religion became science, and we sought to find evidence of ourselves in the behavior of animals. Our excuse for practicing this torture? An opposing statement towards creationists- "Animals don't have souls". Ironic how the first time we identified ourselves with the animals, the animals suffered greatly. To conclude my rant, It would be nice once again to address our responsibility to be moral. Once more we should revolt and stop excessive sacrificial torture for this worship for knowledge done by the popes in lab coats. Because If an animal doesn't have a soul, I would think it's life should be all the more respected."

"Since the ancient physics and chemistry of both time and space, to be broken down for an element is not necessarily to be reduced. Infact, nothing can be destroyed. Therefore, chain-reactively speaking, as inhabitants we share a prolonged ability that allows all things to be recycled, and thus new things to be easily made. It's a universal, paradoxical law shared in various mediums of passage where different types of energies are exchanged, but not reduced.
1: How as children we osmoticly create new words at our liking, as well as all words we have ever created as language. 2: How so effortlessly a bicycle glides through gravity at the graceful wings of inertia, and 3: the commonly shared, more or less understood phenomenon of déjà vu.

Take a walk outside at night, look at a star, any star, and take advantage of your originality. You are as powerful as a wizard. A universal creature. The universal creature, the one and only you. So go forth, young cosmonaut. Go forth and win the battle of your life. For it is for your life, and against those who wish to rule it in which you fight. Create new swords, devise new plans, diversify your techniques, and always, always, believe."

"We aren't always perfect, but we do always feel. Our feelings aren't always good, but they are always real. Reality doesn't apologize nor forgive, thats why it's fair. Everything and everyone is too rare to compare. Opportunity never knocks, it cares not if you're aware. So if you fail to seize it, it'll be you who feels despair. But let that feeling pass. Its in the past, so leave it there. For this world is built to turn, and it doesn't need repair."

any thoughts?

[dickman69]

All scientists believe we are above animals because we are

[wub]

Train by day...

[Muncey]

This sounds like the type of stuff you get on those 'expand your consciousness' websites. Like someone took a 6 week course in philosophy and morals and now wants to start asking profound questions.

[magma]

Take a walk outside at night, look at a star, any star, and take advantage of your originality. You are as powerful as a wizard. A universal creature. The universal creature, the one and only you. So go forth, young cosmonaut. Go forth and win the battle of your life. For it is for your life, and against those who wish to rule it in which you fight. Create new swords, devise new plans, diversify your techniques, and always, always, believe."

Oh, fuck off.

[Muncey]

Take a walk outside at night, look at a star, any star, and take advantage of your originality. You are as powerful as a wizard. A universal creature. The universal creature, the one and only you. So go forth, young cosmonaut. Go forth and win the battle of your life. For it is for your life, and against those who wish to rule it in which you fight. Create new swords, devise new plans, diversify your techniques, and always, always, believe."

Oh, fuck off.

Are you not a wizard, young cosmonaut?

[wub]

Take a walk outside at night, look at a star, any star, and take advantage of your originality. You are as powerful as a wizard. A universal creature. The universal creature, the one and only you. So go forth, young cosmonaut. Go forth and win the battle of your life. For it is for your life, and against those who wish to rule it in which you fight. Create new swords, devise new plans, diversify your techniques, and always, always, believe."

Oh, fuck off.

There is a real spate of crotchety middle agedness coming from you recently

[dickman69]

http://environment.yale.edu/profile/kellert/

Kellert conducted a five phase report for the United States Department of the Interior, Fish and Wildlife Service. From 1977 through 1983, knowledge and attitudes towards animals were evaluated using survey and interview style questioning. Responses from children and adults from the United States were evaluated regarding knowledge and attitudes towards domestic and wild animals. Knowledge was assessed from a score on a true/false test of factual information on a wide variety of animals. Attitudes were determined by like-dislike responses to a list of animals. The attitudes were broken into categories, described by the following nine types: naturalistic, ecologistic, humanistic, moralistic, scientistic, aesthetic, utilitarian, dominionistic, and negativistic. These attitudes were defined as follows.

Naturalistic is the primary interest and affection for wildlife and the outdoors.
Ecologistic is the primary concern for the environment as a system, for interrelationships between wildlife species and natural habitat.
Humanistic is the primary concern and strong affection for individual animals, principally pets.
Moralistic is the primary concern for the right and wrong treatment of animals, with strong opposition to exploitation or cruelty towards animals.
Scientistic is primary interest in the physical attributes and biological functioning of animals.
Aesthetic is primary concern in the artistic and symbolic characteristics of animals.
Utilitarian is primary concern for the practical and material value of animals of the animal's habitat.
Dominionistic is primary interest in the mastery and control of animals typically in sporting situations.
Negativistic is primary orientation for an active avoidance of animals due to indifference, dislike or fear.

I forget the exact percentages but I've read reports where a majority of people fall under the categories Humanistic or Moralistic
A majority of professors/students in the natural sciences fall under Ecologistic, Scientistic or Utilitarian

It's not an exclusively creationist idea that humans are superior to animals, in fact I'd say it's more the opposite that's true

[wub]

The Calm Approach

Yesterday I got a van from my carshare service to drive the family to a friend’s house. I drove down a busy street with a smile on my face, and a peaceful feeling in my body.

Now, this isn’t a normal thing for me. All my life, driving has been something stressful, where I tighten up and get anxious about people around me driving the wrong way, being inconsiderate, being too aggressive or driving too slow in the fast lane.

It’s frustrating and can make you angry.

But as I drove yesterday, I took a different approach. I loosened up my approach, and didn’t feel I needed to rush anywhere. I let people drive the way they wanted to drive, and just flowed with traffic.

This can be an approach to all of life.

When we are anxious, it’s because we want to be somewhere at a certain time (if we’re driving), or want something to happen the way we want it to happen (in the rest of life). But this deadline, this goal, this need … it’s entirely self created.

We create the need to be somewhere at a certain time. We create the need for things to turn out the way we want them to turn out. We create the desire for other people to act (or drive) the way we want them to act or drive.

We create our own anxiety. And so we have the keys to solve our own problems.

Let go of wanting to rush somewhere. Let go of wanting things to turn out exactly as you’d like them to turn out. Let go of wanting people to act a certain way.

And then loosen your body, loosen the tightening of your mind, and flow. Let things happen, and make your way through that flow of life, the flow of what others are doing.

You can still retain your values and principles during this flow — it’s not an abandoning of all your beliefs. You can be kind and compassionate and passionate and care about your family and your health and all those other good things … while letting things flow, and flowing with them.

Be the calm center in the raging flow of life.

Notice when you’re tightening up. Recognize this tightness stems from your desire for things to be a certain way. Loosen up on this desire and be happy with how things are. And then flow.

Life becomes a calm, beautiful path that you can enjoy with each step.

[wub]

A lot of you on here have very cluttered minds, it's not surprising when you post about making little progress in your chosen paths.


I send out positive thoughts to all of you...may you live prosperously and in interesting times. Not a curse, as some might believe

[dickman69]

need 2 quit hatin

start appreciatin

[wub]

need 2 quit hatin

start appreciatin

I support this sentiment, if not the vernacular used to convey it.

[magma]

Take a walk outside at night, look at a star, any star, and take advantage of your originality. You are as powerful as a wizard. A universal creature. The universal creature, the one and only you. So go forth, young cosmonaut. Go forth and win the battle of your life. For it is for your life, and against those who wish to rule it in which you fight. Create new swords, devise new plans, diversify your techniques, and always, always, believe."

Oh, fuck off.

There is a real spate of crotchety middle agedness coming from you recently

I've decided that the best way to use DSF is as emotional catharsis 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. It makes me look crotchety around here, but lets me be more cheery in the rest of my existence. I heartily recommend it.

But even in my most positive mood, that paragraph would illicit at least an "Oh, fuck off". Someone should be getting locked up for crimes against self-help texts, frankly.

[m8son666]

did sonika write these?

[hubb]

helicopter by night?

[kaili]

tl;dr also didnt want to read bc it sounds gay from the first sentence

[hifi]

guy can really draw

[hifi]

that's redeemable right

[m8son666]

yh but hitler was good at drawing

[Muncey]

Maybe he should stick to what hes good at.