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chunkie · Post by **chunkie** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:13 pm

anyone got ideas about the limitations on logic express vs pro??

i know some of the fx are not in express (eg space designer convolution reverb)

apple have not put up a comparison chart, and the tech spec breakdown on the apple site looks pretty much blow-for-blow

eg sampling rate, number of audio tracks, busses etc?!?!

cheers

drwurst · Post by **drwurst** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:35 pm

for all those 5.5. users, anybody heard of hackintosh?

osk · Post by **osk** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:35 pm

Chunkie wrote:anyone got ideas about the limitations on logic express vs pro??

i know some of the fx are not in express (eg space designer convolution reverb)

apple have not put up a comparison chart, and the tech spec breakdown on the apple site looks pretty much blow-for-blow

eg sampling rate, number of audio tracks, busses etc?!?!

cheers

Pretty sure there is a comparison chart on the Apple page. Remember using it myslf when I bought Express. Now got Pro though.

Express is great. But I couldn't resist.

tmu · Post by **tmu** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:14 pm

seems that this is cracked allready

still definetly gonna keep it legit, the price for upgrade from lp7 to lp8 is a bargain... like to keep my daw and plugins all nice and clean. as someone said; "no crack no crash"

hit by a rock · Post by **hit by a rock** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:42 pm

tmu wrote:seems that this is cracked allready

I reckon this is Apple's intention. Why else replace a secure dongle system with a serial that is released within a few days?

With Logic 7's dongle still uncracked, and cracks of other professional software (Pro-tools, Nuendo, etc) running on PCs, Apple's studio-dominance was being seriously undermined.

With the old Logic 4 dongle crack, people were buying Macs, just so they could use Logic - people who couldn't afford both. This added up to a huge user-base. Nowadays, kids are more likely to buy PCs, so they can run cracks of Fruity Loops, Reason, Live, whatever. That is a huge user-base of people who couldn't give a toss about Macs!

BTW, I once met Herr Lengeling, Logic's writer, and he was running Logic 4.7 on a powerbook, using the old dongle crack! Said he couldn't be arsed to carry the dongle around. He'd hacked it to display a picture of himself though! hehe!

I will upgrade from 7 (later), but in the meantime, those cracks look well tempting...

lohz · Post by **lohz** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:59 pm

two oh one wrote:
tmu wrote:
two oh one wrote:Ok, ok. Logic 8 really does sound better. It's more open, airy and less hard than the previous versions. It's more like mixing into an analog board now. That 'air' thing certainly wasn't there before. It's like the sounds can breathe.

There has been some serious voodoo done under the hood, that's for sure.

so youre saying it sounds good then
I've just done my first mix in it. It's WAY better. It's easier to get sounds to gel together in it.
I also tried playing older songs through it, and they are softer, more open and not as hard/small.

I'm very happy with it. The new comps are good and the Delay designer is some serious shit.

Logic 8 is a complete re-write and its rumoured to have a brand new audio engine under the hood. Most people are experiencing the same thing about it sounding better.

The EQ and Compressor plugins again have been re-written and they now sound fantastic!

Haven't had a play with the delay designer yet as I fear it might not play to nicely with my now rather aging Powerbook G4

P.S. I have a fully licenced & boxed academic copy of Logic 7 for sale, PM me if you're interested

whineo · Post by **whineo** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:44 pm

So anyway - been playing with my new copy of Logic 8 for a week now after being a long term ableton user.

Im so looking forward to getting immersed in this program

The Eq's and compressor's are great.

The overall timing just seems to much more of a natural groove than any other sequencer I have used. I have found myself making drum loops with much more swing and feel to them.

Would be interested if any one has a essential advice that helped them when they were starting out with Logic?

osk · Post by **osk** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:53 pm

Do you know how angry I am. Spent 700 quid on Pro 7 ten days before the free upgrade cut off date.

So effectively I'm spending 820 quid while everyone else spends 350 or whetever it is.

Can't decide whether I really need it or just secretly desire it.

John Locke · Post by **John Locke** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:21 pm

yo, anyone using L8 with a presonus firebox? about to upgrade but i heard people had problems with the firepod and wondering if the same goes for firebox?

3rdeye · Post by **3rdeye** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:56 am

Hit By A Rock wrote:
tmu wrote:seems that this is cracked allready
With Logic 7's dongle still uncracked

That's not strictly true, a good friend of mine procured a cracked (and fully working) Logic 7 Pro from an old German dude in the Paraguyan rainforest. Sounds like a bit of a yarn, but i assure you, its 100% legit!

drwurst · Post by **drwurst** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:39 am

^^^^^^^

???????????
whuuuuuuuut?

3rdeye · Post by **3rdeye** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:45 am

yeh i shitteth ye not... said mate of mine, who is an audio engineer, was visiting his missus in south america and met this old german bloke in a "Jumanji-style safari suit" (!) who claimed he had personally cracked Logic 7 Pro to make it work without the dongle. mate was well sceptical (knowing that Logic 7 cracks weren't supposed to exist), but took the disc off him anyways and it worked sweet.

Deep in the Paraguayan rainforest too. Bizarre!

feasible_weasel · Post by **feasible_weasel** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:31 am

this thread makes me sad
ppl like shonky etc,cant afford and others such as been ripped off my apple

why is this software so expensive??? and why only on mac?? surley they could sell more on both platforms and reduce the price?

3rdeye · Post by **3rdeye** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:37 am

feasible_weasel wrote: this thread makes me sad
ppl like shonky etc,cant afford and others such as been ripped off my apple why is this software so expensive??? and why only on mac?? surley they could sell more on both platforms and reduce the price?

when apple bought emagic and the logic rights it was a conscious effort to get PC logic users to switch to the mac platform and increase mac sales... who knows what apple's gameplan is now, what with rumours of an Apple and Apogee collab on a new "Pro Tools Killer" multitrack recording software....

feasible_weasel · Post by **feasible_weasel** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:42 am

3RDEYE wrote:
feasible_weasel wrote: this thread makes me sad
ppl like shonky etc,cant afford and others such as been ripped off my apple why is this software so expensive??? and why only on mac?? surley they could sell more on both platforms and reduce the price?
when apple bought emagic and the logic rights it was a conscious effort to get PC logic users to switch to the mac platform and increase mac sales... who knows what apple's gameplan is now, what with rumours of an Apple and Apogee collab on a new "Pro Tools Killer" multitrack recording software....

couldnt ppl just install tiger osx on their pc's???

3rdeye · Post by **3rdeye** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:48 am

not sure about that, im a mac boy

but the point is, with the new intel chips, peeps can install XP or whatever on their Macbooks and Mac Pros...

feasible_weasel · Post by **feasible_weasel** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:07 am

3RDEYE wrote:not sure about that, im a mac boy but the point is, with the new intel chips, peeps can install XP or whatever on their Macbooks and Mac Pros...

yeah so basically like for like

depends how different tiger is compared to a preinstalled mac osx

John Locke · Post by **John Locke** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:16 am

yo whats the point of a production forum if a technical question just gets lost in a thread of largely uninformative chit chat?

moderators: maybe need to start a forum called "old wives" to meet popular demand and keep this section free for info, questions and advice

3rdeye · Post by **3rdeye** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:03 am

Battle Gong wrote:yo whats the point of a production forum if a technical question just gets lost in a thread of largely uninformative chit chat?

moderators: maybe need to start a forum called "old wives" to meet popular demand and keep this section free for info, questions and advice

sorry, i though conversation was allowed in this forum. anyways...

yo, anyone using L8 with a presonus firebox? about to upgrade but i heard people had problems with the firepod and wondering if the same goes for firebox?

not heard of any problems with logic 8 and the firebox to answer your question, though it is early doors yet.

John Locke · Post by **John Locke** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:35 am

3RDEYE wrote:
Battle Gong wrote:yo whats the point of a production forum if a technical question just gets lost in a thread of largely uninformative chit chat?

moderators: maybe need to start a forum called "old wives" to meet popular demand and keep this section free for info, questions and advice
sorry, i though conversation was allowed in this forum. anyways...

yo, anyone using L8 with a presonus firebox? about to upgrade but i heard people had problems with the firepod and wondering if the same goes for firebox?

not heard of any problems with logic 8 and the firebox to answer your question, though it is early doors yet.

yeah, just being a moody tnuc. but its irritating to ask a serious question then see it swamped by trivia, never to be answered. tho this was by no means the worst case i seen.

anyway. thanks 4 advice.

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