"We Need To Talk About Vinyl"

dickman69 · Post by **dickman69** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:14 pm

chekov wrote:main thing that puts me off serato is i would never want to rely on my laptop in a club setting, which would lead to me carrying around back-up records or cds

in which case i may as well just play records or cds

thats why im thinking of switching to cdjs

phrex · Post by **phrex** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:23 pm

well, for a small label it's already tuff enough to sell 100 copies when especially when tjere's no distributor.

soronery · Post by **soronery** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:03 pm

vulvavibration, do you have a bandcamp page to sell your vinyl through?

phrex · Post by **phrex** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:17 pm

yes. see signature.

chekov · Post by **chekov** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:34 pm

rayman612 wrote:
chekov wrote:main thing that puts me off serato is i would never want to rely on my laptop in a club setting, which would lead to me carrying around back-up records or cds

in which case i may as well just play records or cds
thats why im thinking of switching to cdjs

that makes sense, but i really don't enjoy djing as much without that vinyl 'feel' so i wouldnt wana do cds full time

which justifies all the money i spend on records imo

chekov · Post by **chekov** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:34 pm

wolf89 · Post by **wolf89** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:32 pm

rayman612 wrote:Well i didnt say serato was a counter to your romanticized album listening bullshit lol

And your shallow view of vinyl that seems to be about it being just for djing doesn't make what I'm saying romanticized bullshit

esfandyar · Post by **esfandyar** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:57 pm

wolf89 wrote:
rayman612 wrote:Well i didnt say serato was a counter to your romanticized album listening bullshit lol
And your shallow view of vinyl that seems to be about it being just for djing doesn't make what I'm saying romanticized bullshit

i feel you wolf as far as how you look at vinyl, not from a dj's perspective. hence me saying earlier i have been buying vinyl but its been pretty much metal, or obsure noise shit. not stuff i would remotely consider playing out in a set.

but from a dj's perspective, consider look at it from the other side. would i be able to get away with saying ooh serato or cdjs or whatever has <insert idiosyncratic positive characteristics here> and <insert idiosyncratic positive characteristics here>, etc etc like people do when talking about vinyl, and not sound like a complete ass? its tough not to because, imo, there are a bunch of new people to the djing world today, by the troves mind you, who buy these pieces of technology and call themselves djs, and do not come from a background of vinyl, and they, for the most part suck, sorry to generalize. but, the squeakiest wheel gets the grease, and alot of these fools are sqeaky. these people make the idea of using serato or whatever kind of medium used today not as romantic as vinyl, they create a negative stigma, ie running in the red a lot, using audio files that are not good quality, using the sync button, etc.. the thing is, vinyl enthusiasts who do dj, make me think of the atheist preacher, always having this holier than thou attitude, complaining about people staring at their computer screens, or the everlasting argument of whether analog vs digital is the true path today. this isnt a poke at anyone btw.

point being, is that serato, or any other medium used to perform a dj set i think is great, as long as the person who is djing isnt a boob and has some standards.

i hope that rant makes sense in some way.

RKM · Post by **RKM** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:08 pm

does anyone else just also really like having a room full of records,

it's like having full bookshelves

it just helps makes a yard a Yard

mks · Post by **mks** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:22 pm

RKM wrote:does anyone else just also really like having a room full of records,

it's like having full bookshelves

it just helps makes a yard a Yard

Yes.

I like everything about records except having to move them, the weight you are packing going to a gig and perhaps the material they are made from.

esfandyar · Post by **esfandyar** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:33 pm

pulling the records out to show the babes?

RKM · Post by **RKM** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:35 pm

drop spongebob and the panties follow

mks · Post by **mks** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:39 pm

Girls dig it.

dickman69 · Post by **dickman69** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:41 pm

wolf89 wrote:
rayman612 wrote:Well i didnt say serato was a counter to your romanticized album listening bullshit lol
And your shallow view of vinyl that seems to be about it being just for djing doesn't make what I'm saying romanticized bullshit

Eh w/e

RKM wrote:does anyone else just also really like having a room full of records,

it's like having full bookshelves

it just helps makes a yard a Yard

This might be the biggest turn off to using vinyl to mix with tbh, i cant ever fucking find anything

I know what tune i want to play, either frantically search for the record or use the serato search bar

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:59 pm

I know where all my vinyl is.

Maybe just bad organisation?

dickman69 · Post by **dickman69** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:03 am

I must have selective OCD

My serato crates are all perfect, my vinyls all over the place

Johnlenham · Post by **Johnlenham** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:10 pm

Vinyl costs so god-damn much. Looks nice and sounds better tho.

I agree with the white labels bit, that shit is just fucking lazy.
Deep Medi who only just about manage to reuse the same image and change the sleeve colour then charge the same for a blank, white paper sleeve record, yet smaller guys like zamzam can fucking smash it every time.

Its also abit like peoples book shelves. Love having a good look through peoples collections.

AxeD · Post by **AxeD** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:12 pm

If this was QI 'sounds better' would set of the alarms.

Wait, is that the show with the forbidden word ting?

soronery · Post by **soronery** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:12 pm

john osborn wrote:I no longer have a record bag as I recently switched over to playing vinyl via digital medium which means all I carry is a little leather pack of SD cards and my MacBook. I am still playing vinyl though, via a high quality ripping set up that includes a Nagaoka MP-500 cartridge. This means my vinyl recordings actually sound better in the club than if I played the vinyl. Even if the decks were perfect and the needles were brand new, they can’t beat the sound I get via my ripping station. So for all the diehard vinyl only heads out there, sorry guys, but in this case. Through this process, sound quality wise, my digital files piss all over real wax in a club, unless you want to DJ on Thorens turntables with Nag carts (no back spins, cues and no pitch controller!).

vinyl fetishism is especially sad when its comes to dj sets.

'vinyl only nights'

something far too nerdy to care about. if you're celebrating the medium over the music you need to take a long hard look at why you're going out to listen to music in the first place.

Johnlenham · Post by **Johnlenham** » Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:24 am

I will say going *i want to hear this tune* and flicking the on switch and playing the record is about a thousand less times tedious then going into traktor/vcl and hooking up my laptop. Shit regularly crashes on my mates l
laptop to the point i cant even trust it of we had to play out. Id bring a handful of vinyl incase shit hits the fan then whack on some emergency vinyl.
probably not everyone experience mind you.

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