Boys 2 Men

[nousd]

Lydia Cacho in interview
(courageous Mexican journalist exposing drug cartel corruption & organized pedaphilia)
re teenage boys & young men:

They don't know what the heck is going on. They're supposed to be caring, sensitive even sweet, but they're also expected to be machines who will have sex with lots of girls and if they question that abuse, they're not real men. Their emotional crisis is our social crisis.

She's talking about Mexican fellas primarily but this dichotomous ideal for young males seems pretty widespread.
I wonder sometimes whether some just give up on relationships with "crazy" women and go gay for lack of complication.

The issue can be sidetracked by talking about girls' attitudes but essentially its about how males internalize the world & behave accordingly.
The best adjusted young guys I know seem to attract girls who appreciate their having found a balance.

hhaaha
you bunch of wimps
still trying to impress femmes or fucking twinks
sad

sorry guys
^ that's way too macho and provocative
to induce comment on how you've adjusted to the modern demands of masculinity
of course you're not wimps
you're more likely intimidated from offer an honest opinion,
knowing that you can never express your concerns without sounding equivocal & uncertain
and overly sensitive to what females think about you.
I mean, fuck em yeah?
well, with permission
and preferably with some mutual attraction
maybe even a little love & understanding
but shit
so many hurdles
so much negotiation
& cutting thru to mutual needs
fun, enjoyment, friendship, support, trust, acceptance...
man, any of us who survive the process have won the lottery.
Which necessitates having a ticket.

the ticket
symbolizes both optimism and the irrepressible male proclivity for risk-taking

[hubb]

the new grown up guy is younger in spirit than previously though


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gyms aren't university m8s - is one thing the world should shout back on top of deep house like an accapella

[hubb]

the ticket
symbolizes both optimism and the irrepressible male proclivity for risk-taking

tiny peen means a longer sowing period

[LACE]

sorry guys
^ that's way too macho and provocative
to induce comment on how you've adjusted to the modern demands of masculinity
of course you're not wimps
you're more likely intimidated from offer an honest opinion,
knowing that you can never express your concerns without sounding equivocal & uncertain
and overly sensitive to what females think about you.
I mean, fuck em yeah?
well, with permission
and preferably with some mutual attraction
maybe even a little love & understanding
but shit
so many hurdles
so much negotiation
& cutting thru to mutual needs
fun, enjoyment, friendship, support, trust, acceptance...
man, any of us who survive the process have won the lottery.
Which necessitates having a ticket.

damn sd5

[murky21]

came 4

[jaydot]

End of the Road. #BLOAW

[Phigure]

End of the Road. #BLOAW

isnt this the perfect thread for you? you were just talking the other day about how you scare off girls

[sd5]

the new grown up guy is younger in spirit than previously though

intresting comment
I hear people say that today's young men are more infantile
-not quite the same thing-
and I don't believe it as a generalization anyway
Most young men seem to be very nuanced, even wary, now days.

[AxeD]

the new grown up guy is younger in spirit than previously though

But I was so much older then
I am younger than that now

[nousd]

this thread has not even thought about scratching the surface yet

What difficulty do/did you have in adapting to the expectations of being a male?

not in a confessional sense
but in the spirit of assisting your less-confident brothers
steer their way through the treacherous waters of early adulthood.

[hubb]

girls are probably right if you are having a discussion

[nousd]

if girls being right about something means that males shouldn't discuss things
then what are we doing here?
amongst all the chatting women do, odds are they's have to be right some of the time
but I won't be acceding to their claiming expertise in being male
particularly being this male.

from my observation
some cultures' males are so craven to their women's expectations
that they lose self-respect and an intelligent way of being male.

[hubb]

if girls being right about something means that males shouldn't discuss things
then what are we doing here?

Discussing stuff and being wrong about them

amongst all the chatting women do, odds are they's have to be right some of the time
but I won't be acceding to their claiming expertise in being male
particularly being this male.

Most places that hold power have fly zippers in civilisation and basicly... we just don't know the alternative

from my observation
some cultures' males are so craven to their women's expectations
that they lose self-respect and an intelligent way of being male.

That's nice at least there's a beginning there