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I don't understand why space agencies are still separated like this (I guess this goes for the entire scientific community). It's pretty obvious that to achieve something truly groundbreaking we're going to have to pool our resources on a global scale.
I think a single manned mission to mars would be much more valuable than 20 probes/rovers/satellites etc. and probably cheaper too.
I think a single manned mission to mars would be much more valuable than 20 probes/rovers/satellites etc. and probably cheaper too.
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Definitely not cheaper... keeping humans alive in space attached to a is just about the most expensive thing anyone will ever do. The main difference is you can lose a non-manned mission, so reliability only has to reach 80 or 90% to become 'viable' - human missions need nigh-on 100% certainty. More than half of our probes to Mars to date have been lost.wysockisauce wrote:I think a single manned mission to mars would be much more valuable than 20 probes/rovers/satellites etc. and probably cheaper too.
India get massive ups for this. Huge ups. Gigantic fucking ups. First shot too. Amazing.
Interplanetary space exploration is now in the price range of EuroMillions winners.
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With the tax dodging off shore cash horde that apple has, they could fund 900 of these missions and still have a couple billion left over for emergencies.
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In b4 jaydot rant about India still receiving foreign aid.
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nowaysj wrote:I wholeheartedly believe that Michael Brown's mother and father killed him.
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Living in dreamland if you think the US and Russia would be able to cooperate on something like thatwysockisauce wrote:I don't understand why space agencies are still separated like this (I guess this goes for the entire scientific community). It's pretty obvious that to achieve something truly groundbreaking we're going to have to pool our resources on a global scale.
I think a single manned mission to mars would be much more valuable than 20 probes/rovers/satellites etc. and probably cheaper too.

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Still the amount of valuable scientific data we can generate from a manned mission would be orders of magnitude above what we can scrounge up with probes. Maybe its worth it?magma wrote:Definitely not cheaper... keeping humans alive in space attached to a is just about the most expensive thing anyone will ever do. The main difference is you can lose a non-manned mission, so reliability only has to reach 80 or 90% to become 'viable' - human missions need nigh-on 100% certainty. More than half of our probes to Mars to date have been lost.wysockisauce wrote:I think a single manned mission to mars would be much more valuable than 20 probes/rovers/satellites etc. and probably cheaper too.
India get massive ups for this. Huge ups. Gigantic fucking ups. First shot too. Amazing.
Interplanetary space exploration is now in the price range of EuroMillions winners.
Sometimes I feel like capitalism is plunging the world into a second dark age, where if it isn't profitable it isn't considered; even though it gives us an opportunity to learn a great deal about the world around us.
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I get your point, but we don't live in a capitalist system.wysockisauce wrote:I feel like capitalism is
Also, this price tag is so low, you and other like minded individuals can privately fund missions to other planets that you have an interest in. Have a bake sale, a telethon or two, a few kickstarters, and you're moonwalking on mars.
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nowaysj wrote:
I get your point, but we don't live in a capitalist system.
This is great, maybe someday.nowaysj wrote:Also, this price tag is so low, you and other like minded individuals can privately fund missions to other planets that you have an interest in. Have a bake sale, a telethon or two, a few kickstarters, and you're moonwalking on mars.
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This kind of thing is why corporations were started in the first place.
As far as our system, you have the combining of corporations and the state, so we're definitionally in a fascist system.
As far as our system, you have the combining of corporations and the state, so we're definitionally in a fascist system.
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nowaysj wrote:As far as our system, you have the combining of corporations and the state, so we're definitionally in a fascist system.
I'm not following.nowaysj wrote:a fascist system.
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