Looking for Advanced (Kinda) Help

[Storm District]

Hi I am very VERY new to this (never posted in a forum before) but reading through this site deemed very helpful in the past, but to find specific answers i would have to look forever. So, I decided to take the leap and start posting. To get to the business I have been producing seriously for about 3 years, defiantly showing massive signs of improvement since i started, BUT i have come to a huge problem, I am missing the further guidelines as to actually getting the quality i want i.e. Panda Eyes, Barely Alive, Virtual Riot, Desembra, and others. I have enough knowledge to know there's no DIRECT thing they all do but i know there's something I am doing wrong / missing. I do not look to copy them i have my own musical talent and ear for crafting melodies it is more the sampling and Eqing I am looking for help with. I have plenty of time to sit down and work with someone that has answers. I take this serious and look to further my Skill.

Looking through this site I can see that people know what they are talking about and I am willing to listen 100%.

I AM NOT ASKING FOR A COPY OF A SPECIFIC SOUND I AM JUST LOOKING FOR SPECIFIC ANSWERS

P.S.
If it helps i use Ableton Live 9 with a Huge Collection of Plugins i.e FM8/Massive/Sylenth1/Nexus and more.

Soundcloud

[zosomagik]

I mean, I'm assuming that's your tune, and if so it sounds pretty good to me. That's not really my style, but it sounds good. To clean stuff up a bit, I would sidechain that synth to those growls so they can come through a little more. Maybe turn the synth down just a tad. Also, I know you might be looking for a some general answers relevant to all tunes, but since you have a track in your post this might have been better suited for the WIP thread.

Welcome to the forum BTW

[Storm District]

The song i linked was a Remix entry for a contest but it was my newest production the answer you gave me still helps though. One thing I am really looking for that I cant seem to find the specific answer for is Snare and Kick help making my Kicks sound less round (idk) and more standout but not so much it sounds wrong. And for my Snares I am looking to make them punch, trail, and just over all sound more crisp.

[zosomagik]

For the kick, one good bit of advice I recently got is fiddling with the decay and making it shorter. Most kicks are likely going down in pitch as they occur so if you stop them before they get super low they'll punch a little more and sit better in the mix, but you'll most likely have to bring up the volume as you make it shorter. Well at least a lot of the time, every kick and every tune is different. And for the snares and even the kicks as well, layering sounds goes a realllllllly long way. As well as some parallel compression, but don't over do it.

[Storm District]

Thanks a lot this info is helping a lot I actually noticed the thing you said about the kicks it has previously helped but wit some of my kick samples they just sound off I'm not sure why, I think I need to revisit my library and make some changes. As for layering snares it really is a long process that I am in the middle of, still looking through other forums on that, which are helping, but when it comes down to doing it I run into a hassle i feel others are not experiencing.

[zosomagik]

when layering I find that tuning them to the same pitch helps a lot, maybe some saturation and then some compression to glue them together. And since you're using Live 9 hit up that glue compressor, it's amazing. Experimentation is key though.

[Storm District]

Never thought to use the Glue Compressor on layering I really don't know why i didn't so hmm if I put the snares I want to layer into an Instrument Rack (like i usually do) After i tune and EQ them should i just put the Glue Compressor on each one like i did with the EQ8/ProQ or should it just go on the whole channel effects with another EQ8/ProQ?

[zosomagik]

There ya go, that should help

[Storm District]

Thank you! A lot!

[zosomagik]

No prob, I don't have anything better to do at four in the morning.

[Desembra]

I'm not exactly sure what kind of help you needed, but the best way to improve the quality of your work is to experiment, watch tutorials and collaborate. Collaborating is great because then you can see how your collaborator likes to work in his/her daw and make his/her sounds. I just realised now that this is a pretty old post but I just feel like I had to say this after I just searched for my name on this forum and found this post. Good luck!

[NinjaEdit]

To get that snare sound you might try boosting at 200hz.

[Banesy]

I think he left camp

[splendid]

I think he left camp

lol. If he didn't, check out Roey Izhaki's Mixing Audio. It is like the moneyshot book for mastering, I mean, its a college text and really dry, but very good. Full book is here:

http://ip144.qb.fcen.uba.ar/libroslfp/M ... 008%29.pdf