Working Out....

[wobbles]

understandable, but it's incredibly difficult to make progress without hitting your macros daily with around 8 hours sleep

[wobbles]

hell, you can get shifaced and do loads of coke, just so long as you eat enough and sleep

which I know is quite difficult

[ezza]

yeah im only joking

i eat so bad in the week though, like i eat clean, but calorie wise im probably 1000 over every day so the weekend does help me keep the weight off lyk

[wobbles]

it's probably more like this; you starve yourself during the weekend and during the week your body eats to make up for it.

[ezza]

hmm yeah maybe

im a hungry guy in general though

like i did a test on a cheat day a year ago when i was more into it, and if i just ate when i wanted to and ate till i was full, i was in the range of like 8000 calories lol

[ezza]

i wish i wanted to be massive, but i just wanna stay the same and be lean. which means dieting bareee

(which i fail at)

[wobbles]

to each their own of course. i'm not actually trying to get larger, it's just one of the side effects of speed and strength training

[ezza]

yeah fair

what are you atm? like height/weight/bmi

[wobbles]

170 cm / 75 kg / if I had to guess bmi, 15%

i've gained about 15 kg in the last 2.5 months, since i started growing my beard. at that time i was 61 kg and probably around 8% bodyfat. it's quite the transformation

[wobbles]

but the real successes are my running and cycling times, as well as weight increases

[ezza]

yeah fairplay thats good going

im like 188cm/90kg/ and probably like 20% body fat

i wanna stay the same weight and drop to like 10-15% but i know thats pretty impossible so ill probably end up dropping to like 80-85kg :/

[goose]

^ but you'll slowly get that back over your next few bulk cycles. what are your core compound figures (DL/Squat/Bench) wobbles/ezza

[wobbles]

technically you can totally stay the same weight and drop bodyfat%, cuz muscle is far more dense compared to fat, plus the more muscle you have, the quicker you can burn fat

[ezza]

i dont DL

squat is 80kg i think

and bench(i do dumbell press) is 32.5kg

i dont really do any of those very much though

[goose]

why not? They are the fundamental exercises for maximum overall growth

[ezza]

i have a fucked lower back and i always fuck it doing them lol

i know that means i need better form or w/e but every time i try i fuck my back. im tired of having really bad back ache

[wobbles]

my stats are similar to ezza's, I can bench a little more. I also don't deadlift, it's the one motion I refuse; I have a very slight scoliosis (which is just my excuse) really though fuck deadlifts

[goose]

fair enough wobbles but ezza you should try working on your technique just with the bar/no weight and try to remove the lower back out of the initial lift (get your ass lower than you knees). Even just trying rack pulls for a while.

my biggest gains came from DL

[wobbles]

what are your stats goose, are you a meat head?

[goose]

No, I'm not big at all.

my lifts are not where they used to be. I've dropped weight on my compounds by around 20% and have gained a few kg's due to lack of exercise/time in the gym this year.