In Need Of Some Tips For FL STUDIO 11

[KRONIKAL]

Hi guys sometimes when i use fl i feel like i' m a little bit limited over certain thing and i would like to know if it something that happen only to me or if anyone have a method for doin that stuff...or maybe no one else have ever wanted to do that stuff...for example :

-How can i use the same automation over 2 or more parameters and still being able to decide the max and min level of each one of these ? if i just link a param to an automation i just can set max/min value for all of them and not separetely.

-If i want to create a comb filter with an eq how can i fix all the notches so they don' assume the same value and become a fucked up notch when i link all of them to the same automation ? I think this would be the most important thing to me for example for personal filter creation or create vowel and move all of them at the same time instead of automate each one as i' m doing right now

-Last one : Is there any way to stretch just a part of a sample without being forced to make unique the part that i want to stretch.

I know that are not essential "technique" but it would be awesome knowing if fl studio is capable of that and speed up at least a little bit the workflow

[smalltock]

-How can i use the same automation over 2 or more parameters and still being able to decide the max and min level of each one of these ? if i just link a param to an automation i just can set max/min value for all of them and not separetely.

If I remember correctly, there's a ‘Fruity Formula Controller’.
Make three of them.
One is controlled by your automation.
The other two are controlled by the first.
The two slaves have equations/formulas that follow the master linearly until a certain point (min/max values).
I don't remember how flexible FLS's formula system is, but if it's worth the shit I paid for it, it can handle a simple piecewise function.
If it can't handle a piecewise function, you can probable do something hacky with absolute values.

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Here's a cheat sheet for Formula Controller functions. See IfG and IfL.
http://www.image-line.com/support/FLHel ... roller.htm

-If i want to create a comb filter with an eq how can i fix all the notches so they don' assume the same value and become a fucked up notch when i link all of them to the same automation ? I think this would be the most important thing to me for example for personal filter creation or create vowel and move all of them at the same time instead of automate each one as i' m doing right now

Formula Controller again, except this time you'd have one slave be the master of the next and the formula would look something like this:

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OUTPUT = INPUT + INCREMENT

-Last one : Is there any way to stretch just a part of a sample without being forced to make unique the part that i want to stretch.

You might be able to automate the playback speed or time coverage and get the desired effect. The duplication (make unique?) of the clip in memory makes the operation more predictable. I suggest just doing that and resampling losslessly.

[KRONIKAL]

never used formula controller but i think is time to get a little bit more in deep with it...however why the fuck making something so hard to figure out when it' s so basic even to think of.
I don' t use a lot ableton but as farican remember there is the instrument rack where you can use macros and type exactly the max/min rate you want for eah param you automate it doesn' t seem so complicated...i was hoping if there was something similar in fl studio

[_Agu_]

-How can i use the same automation over 2 or more parameters and still being able to decide the max and min level of each one of these ? if i just link a param to an automation i just can set max/min value for all of them and not separetely.

Why not make a copy of the automation and draw min & max values yourself?

[KRONIKAL]

yeah i can do this and i' ve done it...but really when i' m just laying down the track on the playlist i just want to move fast and finish the fuckin track and doin that way just mean spending more time on a thing that in other daw is so easy to do...these are the thing that drive me crazy about fl studio: you can do amazing things in 3 sec but the essential and basic takes fuckin hours

[smalltock]

spending more time on a thing that in other daw is so easy to do

You'll find this to be true in any of them. They are differently structured pieces of software meant to handle a wide variety of audio stream processes. One such program will easily handle specific task A while another's structure makes A a little bit less direct. The second program makes B more straightforward while it's less so in the first program. This being said, the Formula Controller solution is easy. You won't find it easier anywhere else. It's a tiny structure based on very simple math.

When you're making something in any context, don't expect the process to be easy. There's often at least a little hackery involved.

[KRONIKAL]

yeah ok no doubt about that but not fur such a simple thing like locking the value of a param and than being able to move it along with the other without letting them assume the same value...certain things can be easier and harder for some DAW but...it seem to me that ableton a part from the not so friendly interface have nailed the point and can give you the most straight forward things you can do with a daw right when you need it.

And not becose ableton is some kinda more pro than fl , it' s just becose (IMHO) the developers have thought about a producer need.
In FL Studio seems like they are adding stuff over all the new versions but they have never improved certain basic things like these one.
I don' hate fl studio (is the daw i'm using and probably for ever use because of the insipiration that can drive upon me) but i would like to see some changes in different way than the one they are currently making

[nowaysj]

I can't stand how fl records automation, but otherwise, fl's handling of automation is, imo, so far superior to other daws it alone is worth using flstudio.

If you are just arranging the song, creating unique automation clips per parameter is the fastest/most efficient method. You could get jiggy with your link to controller dialog, but I'd wager you'd spend more time in there than it takes to copy a clip. If you're selecting a clip to duplicate, it is just as easy to select 10 clips all stacked.

But if what you're doing is for performance purposes, or playing live (even in the studio I mean) look into fl's dashboard functionality. I think this may do what you want.

[KRONIKAL]

ok i agree but i'm not complaining about automation method ,as you wrote their are the best you could never dream for a daw an they are so much(step seq,tons of curves and way to wrote them) i just can't understand why with so much potential FL studio have to limit itself so much (just an opinion)...i mean i' m not talking about copying ableton stuff but just to add some improvements already used in other daw like the instrument rack or the possibility to arrange the automation like in ableton on the track tab on the playlist or even add fx from there,allowding you to rearrange the interface for a laptop use, or giving you the possibility to have virtually infinite plugins on the fx chain ecc...i repeat i' m not talking about COPYING i' m talking about IMPROVING
Just imagine FL studio with all these stuff and even much more it would become the DEFENITIVE DAW for sure...i started to think they are already working on that stuff but their are gonna implement them in future version to have some "NEW" feature to show off in their commercial or maybe they just don' t give a fuck about them and think is irrelevant or unnecesary (honestly hope not)

[soronery]

use it endlessly and learn the shortcuts

[smalltock]

just to add some improvements already used in other daw

They could be running into software patents. They could also just be lazy.

[_Agu_]

just to add some improvements already used in other daw

Reason has been doing this lately, they are adding shit that every other daw had for like 3-10 years, like spectrum analyzer, browser, 3rd party plugins etc. while at the same time other daws go forward with something new, yet they expect people to pay for updates. I moved to Logic because of this.

[nowaysj]

ok i agree but i'm not complaining about automation method ,as you wrote their are the best you could never dream for a daw an they are so much(step seq,tons of curves and way to wrote them) i just can't understand why with so much potential FL studio have to limit itself so much (just an opinion)...i mean i' m not talking about copying ableton stuff but just to add some improvements already used in other daw like the instrument rack or the possibility to arrange the automation like in ableton on the track tab on the playlist or even add fx from there,allowding you to rearrange the interface for a laptop use, or giving you the possibility to have virtually infinite plugins on the fx chain ecc...i repeat i' m not talking about COPYING i' m talking about IMPROVING
Just imagine FL studio with all these stuff and even much more it would become the DEFENITIVE DAW for sure...i started to think they are already working on that stuff but their are gonna implement them in future version to have some "NEW" feature to show off in their commercial or maybe they just don' t give a fuck about them and think is irrelevant or unnecesary (honestly hope not)

Okay, I think you need to look into Patcher in FL, based upon what you say you want.

Also in the mixer you can have 792 fx in a row, its not infinite, but come on dude, that is a lot.

[KRONIKAL]

yes i' ve used patcer for kinda doing eq modulation but i found the only way you can do that in the autom. menù is to use the mapping formula. It' s not exactly the type of process i was looking for but surely the most fast and usable.
If someone is looking for a way to do what i wrote i copy there some formulas i found just to get a little bit in to it but i can already tell you that the values you want to type in if you want the automation movement of the eq to be exactly like you want for each param you have to set decimals after the integer
Formulas Function

0.0+Input*0.0 = min 0% to Max 0%
0.0+Input*0.25 = min 0% to Max 25%
0.0+Input*0.50 = min 0% to Max 50%
0.0+Input*0.75 = min 0% to Max 75%
0.0+Input*1 = min 0% to Max 100%
0.25-Input*0.25 = min 25% to Max 0%
0.25+Input*0.0 = min 25% to Max 25%
0.25+Input*0.25 = min 25% to Max 50%
0.25+Input*0.50 = min 25% to Max 75%
0.25+Input*0.75 = min 25% to Max 100%
0.50-Input*0.50 = min 50% to Max 0%
0.50-Input*0.25 = min 50% to Max 25%
0.50+Input*0.0 = min 50% to Max 50%
0.50+Input*0.25 = min 50% to Max 75%
0.50+Input*0.50 = min 50% to Max 100%
0.75-Input*0.75 = min 75% to Max 0%
0.75-Input*0.50 = min 75% to Max 25%
0.75-Input*0.25 = min 75% to Max 50%
0.75-Input*0.0 = min 75% to Max 75%
0.75+Input*0.25 = min 75% to Max 100%
1-Input*1 = min 100% to Max 0%
1-Input*0.75 = min 100% to Max 25%
1-Input*0.50 = min 100% to Max 50%
1-Input*0.25 = min 100% to Max 75%

[KRONIKAL]

however how can i add these 792 fx in the mixer ? i tought the limit was 8 per channel

[nowaysj]

Just chain channels.

[KRONIKAL]

oh ok i tought you meant using only one channel...

[Augment]

Loading fx in patcher on the mixer channel = basically infinite amount of fx plugins per mixer channel.. I think your pc will crash before you run out of space for fx in the mixer

[Redoken]

Check the manual.
For the automation you can link multiple parameter with different math rule for each instrument. You can not only decide the max and the min values but the way how it have to increase or decrease you parameter as well. For example you can move your parameter with a logarimc rule.

For the stretching sample i dont know if there's a way do modify just a part of a sample without creating a new one. Try to load it into a slicex set the markers and work on that.

[KosmonautOfficial]

The manual helps allot of FL studio and also if you still are having trouble learning or if anyone else is reading this who just hasn't figured out FL yet I would recommend watching this tutorial series by Seamlessr https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 6AYD1Le_iu

and here are some more tutorial playlists https://www.youtube.com/user/SeamlessR/playlists

and barely alive helps allot too with there tutorials https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWlXMzp7zMA