quantum physics

lloydnoise · Post by **lloydnoise** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:17 pm

theres actually 11 dimensions n00bzz lol

guerillaeye · Post by **guerillaeye** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:08 pm

Chu wrote:
guerillaeye wrote:What the "Bleep" Do We know

directors cut.
I'd agree, not much, but I think Science is one of the things we can be surer about in life, at least it's up there with the fact that the plural of Lego is Lego.

Gosh darnit... LEGO® is not a NOUN!!!! You cannot pluralize an adjective

spell the brand name "LEGO" in capital letters and use it as an adjective and not a noun

and "What the Bleep do we Know" is a documentary.. highly recomended.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_the_B ... e_Know!%3F

Try and find the quantum edition.. deep!

misk · Post by **misk** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:16 am

guerillaeye wrote:What the "Bleep" Do We know

directors cut.

dig that movie, but im not too down with "ramtha", who's organization paid for that movie.

guerillaeye · Post by **guerillaeye** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:35 am

word.. not too in the know as far as the politics behind the film, but the film itself was good.. like, go see it if you havent good.

parson · Post by **parson** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:05 am

i am going to check it

casino · Post by **casino** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:19 am

everytime i see that movie, i just think of all of the incredible samples in it...

flippo · Post by **flippo** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:12 am

Misk wrote:
guerillaeye wrote:What the "Bleep" Do We know

directors cut.
dig that movie, but im not too down with "ramtha", who's organization paid for that movie.

lol, ultimate wacefilm.

showguns · Post by **showguns** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:49 am

Misk wrote:
guerillaeye wrote:What the "Bleep" Do We know

directors cut.
dig that movie, but im not too down with "ramtha", who's organization paid for that movie.

lloydnoise · Post by **lloydnoise** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:04 pm

Quantum Physics is very interesting but some of the ideas in the Bleep film are ridiculous. I would suggest the book "Quantum Enigma" by Bruce Rosenblum and Fred Kuttner, its pretty deep but it goes along way to explaining the weird links between philosophy and quantum physics without getting to spiritual or preachy. it will fuck ur head however

upreal · Post by **upreal** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:21 pm

I'd like to quote Stephen Hawking on this one: "Every time I hear 'Schroening's cat' I try to reach for a gun"

parson · Post by **parson** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:31 pm

awesome

parson · Post by **parson** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:07 am

ok i kinda half assed watched this movie but didn't really pay too close attention

apparently the girl was deaf or something

but really i am just not sold on the idea of quantum physics and when people talk about multiple outcomes and parallel universes i sorta fade off

bright maroon · Post by **bright maroon** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:47 am

Here is my favorite quantum physacizm..

OK - If our material reality is in fact based on the sphere...then the shortest distance between two points can never be a straight line.

chu · Post by **chu** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:19 am

Did anyone work all this shit out yet?

tempest · Post by **tempest** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:29 am

Chu wrote:Did anyone work all this shit out yet?

Someone said they did..... but it was a lie.

misk · Post by **misk** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:07 am

working on it. i'll have the answer tomorrow by 5pm Pacific Standard Time.

gravious · Post by **gravious** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:08 am

Parson wrote: i'm thinking basically if you accept string theory and brane theory it accounts for the randomness, because both state that there are spacial dimensions beyond what we perceive. basically the electrons are moving in and out of spacial dimensions we don't know exist, and they appear to be doing random shit. einstein was never into the idea of randomness and neither am i.

Hmmm. I don't know. Brane theory is a bit dodgy for my liking. Basically you are talking about extra dimensions that are wrapped up in branes, and sort of hidden from our 'view'. To be compatible with most larger scale string theories you are talking about 10+ dimensions, most of which are wrapped up and hidden away in branes. This many hidden dimensions gets a bit problematic, cos you have to work out where to "put them" (in your theory).

As far as I'm aware, the predictions of such a theory haven't been observed yet, and so I'm still doubtful.

As with most of these theories, they are mostly a case of guessing at reality and seeing what results match, rather than the classical science of observing reality and finding a descriptive relationship... Which makes things pretty hard to believe without proof! But then the same goes for most unproven quantum theories (many of which, including most string theories, are taken almost as if true by many scientists).

Bahhh

gravious · Post by **gravious** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:33 pm

LOLLZ I KILLD THEE SI-ENTS THRED

KTHX

slothrop · Post by **slothrop** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:49 pm

lloydnoise wrote:Quantum Physics is very interesting but some of the ideas in the Bleep film are ridiculous. I would suggest the book "Quantum Enigma" by Bruce Rosenblum and Fred Kuttner, its pretty deep but it goes along way to explaining the weird links between philosophy and quantum physics without getting to spiritual or preachy. it will fuck ur head however

The Emperor's New Mind by Roger Penrose is pretty good on AI and quantum physics, although he goes off into speculation without warning at the end.

Some of the current efforts at unified theories are a bit far out (I know a load of theoretical physicists, and they basically do masses of pure maths and then wonder whether they're going to get something that resembles reality in some way afaict[1]) but a lot of everyday stuff is totally based on quantum mechanics, eg we wouldn't be able to make the CCD that makes a digital camera work if we didn't know about semiconductor doping which is a totally quantum based idea. They've even got quantum computers up and running, which are some seriously mental shit (basically, produce a superposition of a load of different calculations, run them all simultaneously and then get some limited information about all the answers at the same time) even if they can currently only get up to about factorizing 15 into primes.

[1] I think the results from the new accelerator at CERN are going to put a lot of theories to the test, though

parson · Post by **parson** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:26 pm

basically i like the idea of extra dimensions

do not like the idea of infinite universes

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