dub/reggae skank (again..)

Post by **dubway** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:02 am

How would you feel when you realise that basically all music you ever like relys on dub/reggae skank (the emphasis on the 2nd and 4th beat in the bar.. being that guitar riff or drum pattern or whatever..)

isn't that little too simple, obvious, overused, exhausted..??

lot of dubstep is constructed that way.. and other music i love..

just want to hear your thoughts..
it's a bit weird that noone see this as a "problem"..

municiple · Post by **municiple** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:13 am

I man have not problem wittha skank, seen?

hologram · Post by **hologram** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:14 am

way i see it, if it sounds good, whats the problem? obviously if you wanna take it next level by all means.
but if it works for you and works well, do it

quiverpigeon · Post by **quiverpigeon** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:17 am

what kinds of music exactly? can't help feeling some devil's advocacy a gwaan...

Post by **dubway** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:19 am

hologram wrote:way i see it, if it sounds good, whats the problem?

yeah.. true.. but it's digging inside me for long time.. fwd!? get me?

Post by **dubway** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:31 am

i just want someone explain me that it's cool and i don't need to worry about it

hologram · Post by **hologram** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:36 am

dubway wrote:it's cool and don't worry about it

unlikely · Post by **unlikely** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:16 am

alex bk-bk · Post by **alex bk-bk** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:21 am

long as the drums are doing something cool im cool

clarkycatdealer · Post by **clarkycatdealer** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:25 am

luke.envoy · Post by **luke.envoy** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:13 am

doesnt bore me and still sounds fresh, this is why dub has lasted so long through different incarnations

purecain · Post by **purecain** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:32 am

dubstep can flow very slowly or be made to flow quick sharp and all in the same tune and its this space between the beats that begs to filled by mad rythems an basslines wich seem to make the main beats drop heavier and heavier. if anything the music seems to give you the time to add more and more. i think thats why some of the tunes just sound so big. so you see even though the main rythem is almost the same on each track, this rythem in perticular allows for so much more to be added. wrightin rhymes for this music is a pleasure because of this aswell. there is something special about dubstep !!!!

r33lc4sh · Post by **r33lc4sh** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:15 am

dubway wrote:i just want someone explain me that it's cool and i don't need to worry about it

i thought that i've explained this to u on msn

it's cool and u don't need to worry about it

grievous_angel · Post by **grievous_angel** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:26 am

Some people (like Marcus Warp) are concerned that dubstep could be reduced to a formula that is just second-rate digidub. I see his point but I thin there are more important things to worry about.

For me personally the skank, reggae feel, and dub space have always been central to the music I like. I want skank, funk or noise, and preferably all three combined. It's not played out, it's one of those eternal, endlessly renewed sources of musical inspiration, and its roots are extremely ancient. For a really knowledgable exposition of the endless fertility of reggae, you might want to check out the Wayne and Wax blog if you haven't already (http://wayneandwax.blogspot.com/). He also is part of a collective blog that writes about music production and often goes into the intricacies of ragga beats and related ideas: http://riddimmethod.net/

dice · Post by **dice** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:31 am

the backbeat is almost as old as music itself. A lot of the backbeat in modern music stems from 20s-30s-40s rnb movement which then morphed into soul and had a split into ska/dub/reggae/etc.

twistedspirit · Post by **twistedspirit** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:20 pm

I think there are lots of ways to be creative within certain confines + plus I feel like it makes for fun dancin'... probably why a lot of people like me are getting into this stuff now...

Post by **dubway** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:35 pm

ok.. now i understand

alex bk-bk · Post by **alex bk-bk** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:51 pm

in design a good grid/structure/system is the best starting point for a coherent set of output. i think thats how it is with focused music like dubstep, a system in place - some limitations - can make for more focused more coherent output that can interconnect. if you get me.

corse the catch22 is this turns into a formula and the music becomes dul and samey but its up to the artists to work with the system in a new way each time

elgato · Post by **elgato** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:51 pm

Dubway, what exactly is that is concerning you? Do you worry that the music will become formulaic? Or is it that you are concerned that your tastes may be too simply determined? Im sorry, i didnt fully understand your concern...(thats not me dismissing your concern if thats how it sounds! i just want to clarify what we're talking about before we start talking about it!)

doomstep · Post by **doomstep** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:08 pm

Alex bk-bk wrote:i think thats how it is with focused music like dubstep, a system in place - some limitations - can make for more focused more coherent output that can interconnect. if you get me.

I think there is a definat link between structual limatation and stylistic innovation . . . its when the two get mixed up problems occur. IMO.

dub/reggae skank (again..)

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