SHOULD DUBSTEP BE KEPT TO SMALLER VENUES?

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Post by jera » Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:15 pm

Signus wrote:All about the small venues for me just coz everyone seems to have it so much more. Although DMZ Leeds/Exodus is still the best Dubstep night Ive ever been to and probably always will be. Roll on next Weekend :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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Post by le_hardcore_chiefus » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:27 pm

jera wrote:
Signus wrote:All about the small venues for me just coz everyone seems to have it so much more. Although DMZ Leeds/Exodus is still the best Dubstep night Ive ever been to and probably always will be. Roll on next Weekend :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
quotes and seconds such as these intrigue me even mor eabout next weekend, and knowing that if i drive and dont drink would not be ideal, may actually be great, as i may enjoy it soo much more in a different way, instead of me acting like a mongol 8)

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Post by pdomino » Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:46 pm

Im with intimacy, seahorses like it that way.

Local place was an amphitheatre ... amazing atmosphere, now knocked down the place is desolate.

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Post by dom » Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:55 pm

there is no way promoters can book the big acts that people want to see in small venues if they want to even break even. big acts = big money.

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Post by pdomino » Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:16 pm

True it depends on capacity, but not always booking big names.

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Post by corpsey » Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:19 pm

wang wrote:The vibe is always better at smaller venues.
^

Plus the way this music is, if the system isn't proper there isn't any point- especially in some massive room

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Post by wil blaze » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:24 pm

Dom wrote:there is no way promoters can book the big acts that people want to see in small venues if they want to even break even. big acts = big money.
i dunno... we booked n-type, chef, tes la rok and appleblim... put them on in a venue for 300 people and didn't even charge on the door...

so it CAN be done

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Post by pk- » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:29 pm

Dom wrote:there is no way promoters can book the big acts that people want to see in small venues if they want to even break even. big acts = big money.
really? how much are dubstep artists charging these days? i swear adika from heavyweight told me skream played up in newcastle for the price of his train fare

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Post by quadrophonic » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:38 pm

Corpsey wrote:
wang wrote:The vibe is always better at smaller venues.
^

Plus the way this music is, if the system isn't proper there isn't any point- especially in some massive room
spot on.

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Post by jaime » Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:09 pm

seckle wrote:skream playing to over 3000 @ sonar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ5yF8zmgcc
not really a 'venue' though is it?

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Post by vonboyage » Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:14 pm

pk- wrote:i swear adika from heavyweight told me skream played up in newcastle for the price of his train fare
If that's true..

Skream is serious.

Travel expenses + Free drinks is me :D
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Post by dom » Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:31 pm

pk- wrote:
Dom wrote:there is no way promoters can book the big acts that people want to see in small venues if they want to even break even. big acts = big money.
really? how much are dubstep artists charging these days? i swear adika from heavyweight told me skream played up in newcastle for the price of his train fare
That surprises me. Without going into specifics, many of the top acts can be £400 to £800 for an hour set. even a year ago, prices were about half what they are now.

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Post by stanton » Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:17 pm

Dom wrote: That surprises me. Without going into specifics, many of the top acts can be £400 to £800 for an hour set. even a year ago, prices were about half what they are now.
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Post by bagelator » Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:21 pm

dubstep should be strictly confined to paddling pools and garden sheds. end debate.

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Post by wil? » Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:13 pm

Dom wrote:
pk- wrote:
Dom wrote:there is no way promoters can book the big acts that people want to see in small venues if they want to even break even. big acts = big money.
really? how much are dubstep artists charging these days? i swear adika from heavyweight told me skream played up in newcastle for the price of his train fare
That surprises me. Without going into specifics, many of the top acts can be £400 to £800 for an hour set. even a year ago, prices were about half what they are now.
If anyone is paying £800 they are getting ripped off...unless they are someone like fabric or a festival...it is possible to put big names on in small venues...the djs are not that much but more nights like friday or the fwd/rinse thing at the end will put their prices up if they prove to attract those sort of numbers regularly...

saying that this is only a problem if the scene is not capable of bringing new names foward (like dnb where the big names have not really changed for a number of years) which it certainly has been recently...

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Post by bob crunkhouse » Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:23 pm

Wil Blaze wrote:
Dom wrote:there is no way promoters can book the big acts that people want to see in small venues if they want to even break even. big acts = big money.
i dunno... we booked n-type, chef, tes la rok and appleblim... put them on in a venue for 300 people and didn't even charge on the door...

so it CAN be done
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Post by somejerk » Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:26 pm

play it anywhere and everywhere, in my opinion

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Post by dom » Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:43 pm

stanton wrote: PLATFORM DOTS ONE DOTS PLATFORM ONE DOTS ONE PLATFORM DOTS
these are special situations where little or no money is changing hands. even though these nights can get people to play for next to nothing or free not every night is that lucky. all im saying is that to put on big lineups with several well known acts you have to be able to get a certain number of people through the door to not loose money. since dubstep has risen in popularity and agents have got involved artists are being payed lots more.

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Post by product » Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:51 pm

seckle wrote:skream playing to over 3000 @ sonar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ5yF8zmgcc
that just looks wrong. any and every show i've been to has been a pretty personal thing with the dj. i can't imagine being more than 10 feet away from the dj. i can't imagine a person brocking out when there's 2,999 other people around. i've come to understand dubstep to be a very personal thing to me, and the love seems like it would get lost in situations like sonar.

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Post by efa » Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:26 am

In answer to the thread:

Big names & mostly Bangers belong in a bigger venue with a propa system! People are getting rowdy in the dance, jumpin about to these bangin tunes and who can blame them - but they need room.

Mostly Deeper sets belong in smaller or at least venues with lower ceilings so people can skank out - only at DMZ (London) have I seen most people in the dance skanking out propa, full body workout business - I wanna see more of this.

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