THE GROWTH OF NEW DUBSTEP MC's.... Essential????

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Post by dramageddon » Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:14 am

N-TYPE wrote:my favorite mcs now are some of the current dubstep mcs
Who should I be looking to check?

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Post by dj $hy » Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:15 am

I agree wit N on this, we deffo need more MC's in this scene.

I dont like the age old, 2 to the pound spit till you cant spit no more! MC's hosting and carrying a show is where its deffo needed.

Take Rogue Star as an example (or crazy d) they tend to spit abit, host, chill n joke n then spit again. That kinda style is what I call Dubstep MC'ing and that is a style that has been with Dubstep for years.I know this is RADIO MC'ing but when its in a club the only difference is the jokes go!

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Post by Whistla » Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:20 am

yeh pokes is the man at the min for me too.
tho space ape is also serious quality but like others i need to hear him out.
Yeh the mc'ing on dnb is what killed it for me. Some idiot just saying budabudabuda or some shit is just a waist of a microphone.
I wanna see more spiritual vibes in the mc'ing on dubstep, space ape moves close to it.
But i would like to see some true Jamaican mc's spit some praise for the most high over some heavy dubstepper shiz (3 hopes whistla lol)
anyway as long as mc's let tunes play, rather thn just bigging themselves up and cussing other peeps, and also KNOW THE TUNES so they know when to chat and when to stay quiet all is good :)

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Post by [b]racket » Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:22 am

DJ $hy wrote:That kinda style is what I call Dubstep MC'ing and that is a style that has been with Dubstep for years.
Its all about bringing the vibe...which Pokes and Crazy excel at.

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Post by dj $hy » Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:23 am

KEY = KNOWING THE TUNES lol

A fucking good point well pointed Whistla!
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Post by jera » Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:32 am

thats why we need MCs who come from the dubstep scene not other scenes. i was in a record shop tother day n playin sum tunes n sum guy who was an mc jus couldnt get his head round why u would want to listen to anything without vocals...narrow minded bastard!

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Post by genfu » Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:38 am

i'd like to here a roger robinson vocal over dubstep. the tracks he did with the bug are awesome, the depth of his lyrics would definitely fit the music in a similar vein to spaceape imo..

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Post by blackdown » Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:25 pm

i think MCs copying d&b flows over dubstep would be a mistake, but dubstep that explores vocals or dubbed out vocals, like the distance and crazy d tune or the direction kode 9 and spaceape have been taking, could be very fruitfull. grime MCs over dubstep productions definitely needs exploring more too.
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Post by red » Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:38 pm

MC's are good man no doubt, as long as they feel the music like we all do, i cant see anyone complaining..
skeebedebeedee is pretty shit, but buildin your style around the sounds is useful....
cos when a bad ass bassline drops, as an MC, i never really have much to say, let the music do the talking n shit...

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Post by 8bitwonder » Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:46 pm

REd wrote:MC's are good man no doubt, as long as they feel the music like we all do, i cant see anyone complaining..
skeebedebeedee is pretty shit, but buildin your style around the sounds is useful....
cos when a bad ass bassline drops, as an MC, i never really have much to say, let the music do the talking n shit...
and red is mc'ing at the atrium in leeds tonight long side rusko playing dubs

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Post by adruu » Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:16 pm

only heard pokes on the dubstep wars set. would love to hear him or space ape at rinse sometime...

this tempo is not easy to flow over and do double time stuff...but i dont know if new talent is really essential right now. you guys seem to have a good crew of mcs going...

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Post by hijak » Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:21 pm

think they should be there to COMPLIMENT the track.. Not LEAD it..

The art is also when to come in and when stand back and listen to the track...

IMO he/she should be just hyping the crowd.. on drops etc, getting everyone involved.. good vibes
Don't get me wrong spitting a few bars here and there sounds heavy, but too much and I think a certain element of the sound is lost...

..it's all down to individual preference though

Crazy D, Pokes and Space Ape are smashing it right now

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Post by el cubist » Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:23 pm

DramaGeddon wrote:The music does speak for itself, maybe in a big club or on radio you could have an Mc.. but like Spaceape or Conrad.. elevated vocals...
If Dubstep goes down the dNb/Grime Mc route it will end up sounding like nothing new.
exactly.

no to mc's (unless they're hosts)
yes to vocalists.

i dont think the complexity and subtlety in dubstep needs fast lyrics. slow stuff works much better.
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Post by hamzen » Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:46 pm

Space Ape's mc'ing, yeah, quality stuff, that kind of quality who could argue with, but I can so easily see d'n'b mc's coming in that take away the depth of the music and becoming the focus. For me a lot of the deterioration of d'n'b was mc led.

A dangerous route I reckon if they haven't been into the stuff for a good while, and aren't coming in with something really original because once mc's are on the go it's bloody hard to shut them up, and especially get them to let go of the mic.

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Post by auralassassin » Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:51 pm

Pokes and Juakali rocked at Dub War... I don't like MC's at all usually... sometimes they are good.

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Post by viceroy » Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:43 am

auralassassin wrote:Pokes and Juakali rocked at Dub War.
Yes man big big vibes. Much respect out to the both of them, really safe guys.

I think the mc's on the reggae tip work very nice with the music. Would love to hear a set with Buju Banton or someone of the ilk on it.

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Post by n-type » Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:31 am

hamzen wrote:Space Ape's mc'ing, yeah, quality stuff, that kind of quality who could argue with, but I can so easily see d'n'b mc's coming in that take away the depth of the music and becoming the focus. For me a lot of the deterioration of d'n'b was mc led.

A dangerous route I reckon if they haven't been into the stuff for a good while, and aren't coming in with something really original because once mc's are on the go it's bloody hard to shut them up, and especially get them to let go of the mic.

Good point, I love how the music speaks for itself.

i dont know weather drum has bass has deteriated as such. Alot of people say it has, but i think it just evolved. I think alot of people have got bored of the sound and moved on to other things e.g the interest dubstep has had from the junglist movement.

There was a phaze were dnb did start doin my nut!! and to be fair i cant listen to it all the time cos its to fast for me, I like to chill and get on my Dubsteppal-headrock on.

I still go an check certain raves. It depends on wot ur looking for.
There is a definate split in the scene! with raves such as MC convention which are completly mc based which attract a younger croud and events like movement or Renegade hardware where u get a totally different croud.

I dont want to entertain the swampin of Mc's into the scene! Im not interested in that and neither are you lot. I was just interested infinding out thoughts on weather it is a nessesary step?

all the veiws are mixed we will jus have to see how things go i guess.

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Post by robo-dub » Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:41 pm

too many mc's spoil the mix... all about knowing when to shutup basically, and lyrics that actually mean something in relation to the music/scene preferably. as long as nights don't end up being overrun with mc's i think it's healthy to have a few... but not for every set... maybe a host + 2 others is enough... and not for every set. i know i repeated that but yeah, whatever... all about the music, doesn't really need it imo... safe
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Post by alex bk-bk » Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:07 pm

dubstep works on its own but MCs are important, that tradition stands up. its just that little bit more energy. depends who's DJing as well but im likely to enjoy it more inna di rave if theres an mc on as well

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Post by bludblikro » Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:07 pm

how i see it dubstep born mc's wud b all gud cos they understand the music. But prob with alto of mc's comin over form grime n itng is dat they dnt fully undertand it and therefore try to spit constantly which is not right it ruins evrythin n like UFO over easy sed it ruins the meditaiton pon d bass. its all btou hosting wen it comes to dubstep right now but if they were dubstep born mc's wid longer flows n bars den dat shud b aite since they shdu understand d music n kno wen to shut up n just host lol

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