Dubstep Ethics

boomphat · Post by **boomphat** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:16 pm

dubluke...where was this night?

dubluke · Post by **dubluke** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:29 pm

boomphat wrote:dubluke...where was this night?

turnmills, its a terrible club, bare claustrophobic and trying so hard to be ultra cool celebrity club, loads of people there splashing cash like its nothing just to impress their mates, i really fucking hate that

however was quite jokes for the first few hours, if i hadn't got these hilarious beans i wouldn't have tolerated all that shit later on though

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:51 pm

Never met as many genually nice people in one place as i have at dubstep raves. I'm usually the bigest knob at the rave lol To be honest i hadn't bothered going to raves for at leat 4 years previous to latching on to this crew

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:18 pm

metalboxproducts wrote:Never met as many genually nice people in one place as i have at dubstep raves. I'm usually the bigest knob at the rave lol To be honest i hadn't bothered going to raves for at leat 4 years previous to latching on to this crew

Pretty much same as, was getting disenchanted with free parties and only really went clubbing once a month or so (if that).

Had actually missed most of the trouble at the Brighton raves, always some dickheads got to ruin things for the majority.

drbluebeat · Post by **drbluebeat** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:29 pm

dubluke wrote:bleat you can borrow my russian bride any time

lol bluke, you decided to keep her then? Did you file her teeth or what?

dubluke · Post by **dubluke** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:30 pm

drbluebeat wrote:
dubluke wrote:bleat you can borrow my russian bride any time
lol bluke, you decided to keep her then? Did you file her teeth or what?

yeah mate, i just gave her one of them hamster drip feed things into her cage, only a human sized one, and filled it with a potent mix of whisky and vodka, nows she's always in a good mood!

watermelonman · Post by **watermelonman** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 2:40 pm

Virus human race wrote:
Joe Muggs wrote:It's one of the few strands of club music where people openly, and often, talk about "emotion" in tunes.
That's actually quite funny, because I was only just pondering to myself about how emotionless Dubstep actually is. Not the scene of course, but in the tunes themselves.

You think? I mean, it's not Thom Yorke crying over his limp dick, but the emotion is more subtle than that. The sound sometimes evokes it rather than expresses it which is more interesting I think.

Yeah, there's a nice sense of community from seeing the same people at the same places. You don't really know one another but that guy who found you pills on a drought night turns up at the next dubstep night and you're all "Easy" and he's all "Safe". Call me a pussy but that's kind of nice in comparison to the drum n bass nights (which admittedly are great fun) where everywhere you turn there's another pikey gurning and skanking unapologetically on your face.

beatkingz · Post by **beatkingz** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:26 pm

repr0bate wrote:perfect friendly vibes at events, but for some reason this forum reeks of uptight egotism & elitism. which is a shame as it's seen as a sort of flagship.

Ive found some really nice people on here, and through the dubstep parties ive attended. I must admit that I have had alot to do with other generes, this one is quite noteworthy to me, in that i do feel the people are nicer, less egotistical and do give others a chance....simply a more friendly vibe.

Have you ever thought about the thousands..maybee tens of thousands of bedroom dj's that struggle even getting a gig in their local town, let alone some type of headlining position...ive seen first hand that this scene and its promoters do give people a chance and its refreshingly nice to see!

keep up the good vibes and music

joe muggs · Post by **joe muggs** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:45 pm

watermelonman wrote:
Virus human race wrote:
Joe Muggs wrote:It's one of the few strands of club music where people openly, and often, talk about "emotion" in tunes.
That's actually quite funny, because I was only just pondering to myself about how emotionless Dubstep actually is. Not the scene of course, but in the tunes themselves.
You think? I mean, it's not Thom Yorke crying over his limp dick, but the emotion is more subtle than that. The sound sometimes evokes it rather than expresses it which is more interesting I think.

Zactly! Like Detroit techno and certain moments in the development of jungle, it's a template that allows for some quite complex instrumental moods, from threatening to friendly, from euphoric to melancholy, from adrenalin to dreamy vibes - and any compbination thereof.

dandy · Post by **dandy** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:57 pm

this community feel is something i always tell to those whom im trying to bring along to a dubstep night. i just moved up to newcastle and most people havn't heard of it so course theres the whole conversation of what it is but i always find myself telling them about the actual atmosphere that dubstep nights always seem to contain. that's often the bit i find most electrifying to talk about as it seems just so unique to the scene. grime/dnb/hiphop etc heads can indulge one in the joys of their prefered music but not all can talk about the experience created from that scenes nights, consistently! i took a friend to skream and rusko the other night which was his first proper dubstep night and he came back telling everyone the joys of being able to just chat to interesting, sound people and have a decent conversation, with room to get knees up.anyway big up all the gang, many xmas ales have been consumed

eophonic · Post by **eophonic** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:21 am

" it has no need to call itself "intelligent" like bloody "intelligent drum & bass" (which of course just meant "drum and bass without all those scary black people involved")"

LTJ Bukem is black. LTJ Bukem pioneered the sound, I feel, or at least did it best at the time. And it might be worthwhile to point out that LTJ himself dissaproved of the term 'intelligent' to describe his music.

b0ttr0p · Post by **b0ttr0p** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:06 pm

steppa wrote:big love in the community, no egos, no beef.

An amazing movement imo, each and every

yeah, knows it.

it's eggs not egos and da chicks is about to hatch!

sickness.

peace.

b0ttr0p · Post by **b0ttr0p** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:08 pm

same'0 wrote:
dubluke wrote:reprobate, wiggle baron - don't either of you see the irony in having an argument in a thread about how nice the dubstep community is and how friendy people are to each other?
i was just thinking the same thing....

me too, same 0.

some people just bandwagon jumpers, you know. they don't know about the roots.

peace out bruvs.

John Locke · Post by **John Locke** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:54 pm

Joe Muggs wrote:
It also seems to be a scene that is not ashamed of intellect. Not in a nerdy or show-offy way - it has no need to call itself "intelligent" like bloody "intelligent drum & bass" (which of course just meant "drum and bass without all those scary black people involved"),

totally true, but maybe dubstep doesnt need to add the word "intelligent" cos by definition dubstep means "intelligent grime" (which of course just means grime without all those scary black people involved)

now, one at a time please, no spitting or pulling of hair...

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:27 pm

eophonic wrote:" it has no need to call itself "intelligent" like bloody "intelligent drum & bass" (which of course just meant "drum and bass without all those scary black people involved")"

LTJ Bukem is black. LTJ Bukem pioneered the sound, I feel, or at least did it best at the time. And it might be worthwhile to point out that LTJ himself dissaproved of the term 'intelligent' to describe his music.

He pioneered the style but, as you say didn't pioneer the term. It was a term that was invented to co-opt the indie kids at the time to get into dance music. Happened with techno aswell

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:28 pm

Battle Gong wrote: "intelligent grime" (which of course just means grime without all those scary black people involved)

b0ttr0p · Post by **b0ttr0p** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:31 pm

metalboxproducts wrote:
eophonic wrote:" it has no need to call itself "intelligent" like bloody "intelligent drum & bass" (which of course just meant "drum and bass without all those scary black people involved")"

LTJ Bukem is black. LTJ Bukem pioneered the sound, I feel, or at least did it best at the time. And it might be worthwhile to point out that LTJ himself dissaproved of the term 'intelligent' to describe his music.
He pioneered the style but, as you say didn't pioneer the term. It was a term that was invented to co-opt the indie kids at the time to get into dance music. Happened with techno aswell

You know that - with 2 Unlimited and Culture Beat and KLF.

I remember that shit going down bruv.

manray · Post by **manray** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:50 pm

all about the niceness.

bribkin · Post by **bribkin** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:32 pm

hey i wrote a thing about the ethics of Dubstep, well especially the ethics of Skreamism, in an obscure German magazine (v good one mind), it was almost a year ago now, lol, but it will be up on my blog which is coming soon.

also yeah i definitely like dubstep cuz i like being seen with boomnoise.

xx

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