Does Dubstep need humanising?? real vocals etc

feasible_weasel · Post by **feasible_weasel** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:12 pm

we had a taste with Various, and ppl are going nuts over the voices used in Burials stuff. not sure on the shitty remixes those weird 80's/90's things.
could it be achieved to take it from ppl pilled out robotic music in clubs to having singers who make a great edition to the music??

rekordah · Post by **rekordah** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:23 pm

Yes IMO, would love to see more in the king midas lv & errol vein.

electric eliminator · Post by **electric eliminator** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:27 pm

Does FeasibleWeasel need humanising?
Mate, your turning into a spambot, it was only the other week you asked basically the same question on here.
Get off your computer and get out more.

4linehaiku · Post by **4linehaiku** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:54 pm

Historically speaking, the point where people start trying to 'humanise' "ppl pilled out robotic music" is the point where the music gets shit.

ozeb · Post by **ozeb** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:57 pm

4linehaiku wrote:Historically speaking, the point where people start trying to 'humanise' "ppl pilled out robotic music" is the point where the music gets shit.

So I take it you never listened to Jungle?

detuneproductions · Post by **detuneproductions** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:43 pm

I don't think it needs humanising.
You ever bought an amazing tune but then don't really ever drop it cos of an annoying vocal? Alot of vocal parts ruin songs for me.
I think it would be better if MCs worked on better vocal range or have a real vocalist instead.
It'll end up like mainstream house where the songs are sold by the singer rather than the producer even though they don't really have much creative input at all.

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:03 pm

One track Lilly Liver, Darkstar. Also heads up for Guy Brazils stuff. Soon come

corpsey · Post by **corpsey** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:20 pm

If there are problems with dubstep I don't think its to do with vocals...

It all depends on the tune

I love those soaring vocals you get in hardcore/jungle tunes sometimes, I'm not sure if that could be particularly well integrated into a dubstep tune but why not

feasible_weasel · Post by **feasible_weasel** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:11 am

Corpsey wrote:If there are problems with dubstep I don't think its to do with vocals...

It all depends on the tune

I love those soaring vocals you get in hardcore/jungle tunes sometimes, I'm not sure if that could be particularly well integrated into a dubstep tune but why not

inner city liiiiiife inner city pressuuuuuure

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8u7MNG-ug8

slim · Post by **slim** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:27 am

Humanising doesn't necessarily mean vocals though. Less rigid quantisation and a return to a bit more swing in the sound would be great, don't get me wrong, i love vocals, but a voice over a bland, funkless instrumental isn't making it sound any more "human".

djshiva · Post by **djshiva** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:09 am

feasible_weasel wrote:
Corpsey wrote:If there are problems with dubstep I don't think its to do with vocals...

It all depends on the tune

I love those soaring vocals you get in hardcore/jungle tunes sometimes, I'm not sure if that could be particularly well integrated into a dubstep tune but why not
inner city liiiiiife inner city pressuuuuuure
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8u7MNG-ug8

good god thanks for that.

king · Post by **king** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:58 am

Im new here.. but I thought this would be a good first post..

I don't usually put vocals in dubstep tracks but feel sometimes it helps the listener identify with the music easier.

But all in all I guess it depends on the track and the vocalist.

I have been producing some vocal dubstep lately. And would appreciate some feedback.

check it.

http://myspace.com/kingsdubstep

feasible_weasel · Post by **feasible_weasel** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:57 am

sapphic_beats wrote:
feasible_weasel wrote:
Corpsey wrote:If there are problems with dubstep I don't think its to do with vocals...

It all depends on the tune

I love those soaring vocals you get in hardcore/jungle tunes sometimes, I'm not sure if that could be particularly well integrated into a dubstep tune but why not
inner city liiiiiife inner city pressuuuuuure
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8u7MNG-ug8
good god thanks for that.

np

feasible_weasel · Post by **feasible_weasel** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:58 am

KING wrote:Im new here.. but I thought this would be a good first post..

I don't usually put vocals in dubstep tracks but feel sometimes it helps the listener identify with the music easier.

But all in all I guess it depends on the track and the vocalist.

I have been producing some vocal dubstep lately. And would appreciate some feedback.

check it.

http://myspace.com/kingsdubstep

welcome to Dubstep forum

honoured that this is ur first thread to post on. yeah about identification........also singing gives a track emotion

shook1 · Post by **shook1** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:21 am

The vocal can work, just dont think need tracks with full on vocals on them.

Tracks like alicia, tears, i'm loving,

I think vocals on them work pretty well.

Suppose its a different matter with it being samples.

dusk governor · Post by **dusk governor** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:38 am

pls no vocals

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:58 am

Isn't the voice just another instrement?

detuneproductions · Post by **detuneproductions** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:30 pm

metalboxproducts wrote:Isn't the voice just another instrement?

Yes but only if it adds to or glues together the track. Putting vocals in just because it is another instrument, rather than creating the vocal to give more dynamics to the track, can detract from the track.

4linehaiku · Post by **4linehaiku** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:31 pm

ozeb wrote:
4linehaiku wrote:Historically speaking, the point where people start trying to 'humanise' "ppl pilled out robotic music" is the point where the music gets shit.
So I take it you never listened to Jungle?

Um, Jungle was exactly what I was referring to.

I'd say darkside hardcore and early jungle were both some of the best and least human music going. The 'intelligent' thing that came out with the attitude that they were going to start making 'real music' with 'real instruments' was pretty uniformly shit, not to mention insufferably smug (apparently, wasn't actually about at the time). The stick a singer on it and it's more authentic attitude isn't legendary for producing great music.

pure · Post by **pure** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:52 pm

Theres a few tunes with vocals.

Does Dubstep need humanising?? real vocals etc

Does Dubstep need humanising?? real vocals etc

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