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Why records DO all sound the same.

Post by serox » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:35 pm

This will be a good read for anyone into music imo. Here in details is the reason why I do not like most new electronic dance music that is made these days. Dubstep is one of the only genres of music I am looking at buying new.

I think I am going to try and stop spending so much time cleaning up tunes I am working on. When I clean shit up and try to tweak things it just ruins things:( Those tiny mistakes and inperfections are needed to help create!


No, it’s not you – records do all sound the same these days. Desperate to get their music on the radio at all costs, record labels are employing a new and powerful software to artificially sweeten it, polish it, make it “louder”… and squeeze out the last drops of its individuality. Tom Whitwell reports on what’s wrong with the sound of music

There’s a little-watched video on Maroon Five’s YouTube channel which documents the torturous, tedious process of crafting an instantly forgettable mainstream radio hit. It’s fourteen minutes of elegantly dishevelled chaps sitting in leather sofas, playing $15,000 vintage guitars next to $200,000 studio consoles, staring at notepads and endlessly discussing how little they like the track (called Makes Me Wonder), and how it doesn’t have a chorus. Even edited down, the tedium is mind-boggling as they play the same lame riff over and over and over again. At one point, singer Adam Levine says: “I’m sick of trying to engineer songs to be hits.” But that’s exactly he proceeds to do.

The final version of Makes Me Wonder came in three versions: Album, Clean (with the word ‘fuck’ removed from the chorus) and Super Clean (with ‘fuck’ removed more thoroughly, and ‘God’ removed from the second verse). It was a spectacular hit, number one in Panama, Croatia, Cyprus, South Korea and Hungary and many larger countries. Why? Because it was played on the radio over and over and over again.

When you turn on the radio, you might think music all sounds the same these days, then wonder if you’re just getting old. But you’re right, it does all sound the same. Every element of the recording process, from the first takes to the final tweaks, has been evolved with one simple aim: control. And that control often lies in the hands of a record company desperate to get their song on the radio. So they’ll encourage a controlled recording environment (slow, high-tech and using malleable digital effects). Every finished track is then coated in a thick layer of audio polish before being market-tested and despatched to a radio station, where further layers of polish are applied until the original recording is barely visible. That’s how you make a mainstream radio hit, and that’s what record labels want.

To be precise, Makes Me Wonder was particularly popular on US radio stations playing the ‘Hot Adult Contemporary’ format, which is succinctly described within the radio industry as: “A station which plays commercial popular and rock music released during the past fifteen or twenty years which is more lively than the music played on the average Adult Contemporary station, but is still designed to appeal to general listeners rather than listeners interested in hearing current releases.”

Playlists of Hot Adult Contemporary stations are determined by a computer, most likely running Google-owned Scott SS32 radio automation suite, which shuffles the playlist of 4-500 tracks, inserts ads and idents and tells the DJ when to talk. The playlist is compiled after extensive research. Two or three times a year, a company like LA-based Music Research Consultants Inc arrive in town, hire a hotel ballroom or lecture theatre and recruit 50-100 people, carefully screened for demographic relevance (they might all be white suburban housewives aged 26-40). They’re each given $65 and a Perception Analyzer; a little black box with one red knob and an LED display. Then, they’re played 700 seven-second clips of songs. If they turn the knob up, the song gets played. If they turn it down, it doesn’t.

If a station needs more up-to-date information (bearing in mind that they’re “designed to appeal to general listeners rather than listeners interested in hearing current releases”) they can run a call-out test, where people from the right demographic are cold-called and interrogated about 30 seven-second clips played down the phone.

So Maroon Five’s job is clear. Just as a modern politician’s job is to deliver seven second soundbites, their job is to deliver seven second audio clips which will encourage young-ish people with a high disposable income to turn a little red knob at least 180 degrees clockwise. No wonder they look so stressed.

Fortunately, there are an army of producers, engineers, software programmers and statisticians lining up to help our heroes to craft the perfect innocuous but shiny-sounding research-ready pop hit. “It’s like digital photography,” says the prolific producer John Leckie, who has worked Radiohead’s The Bends, the first Stone Roses album and A Storm In Heaven by The Verve. “Twenty years ago, if I showed you a picture of me standing next to the Pope, you’d believe it, and think I’d met the Pope. Today, you’d assume it was Photoshop.”

John’s career started as a tape operator at Abbey Road, where he witnessed Phil Spector recording All Things Must Pass with George Harrison. Phil wanted a big sound, so he filled the studio with musicians. The album was recorded pretty much live in one room with three drummers, two bassists, two pianists, two organists, six guitarists and horns, playing together onto six tracks of an eight track recorder. Vocals took up the last two tracks.

For many people, this was a golden age. Recording a group of musicians playing together in an acoustically pleasant space is a tremendously difficult business. It’s all about where you place the microphones to capture the instrument sounds, but also the room sounds. Recording engineers at Abbey Road wore white coats and spent years as apprentices before they knew enough to do the job properly. When you listen to a record made the old way – like the Buena Vista Social Club album – you’re hearing a recording of a room. Which happens to have some musicians playing in it.

In the early ‘70s, recording started to change. Four tracks turned into 8, then 16, then 24, then 48. Engineers looked for ways to get more control over the sound. They started to create dead rooms, with very dry acoustics. Microphones were moved much closer to instruments, which were recorded one by one. With a clean, pure sound on tape, they could add artificial room sounds afterward using echo chambers. There was an explosion in audio creativity, as people were able to experiment endlessly. Records like Tubular Bells or Queen albums would never have been possible in the ‘60s. The white-coated engineers were replaced with experimental producers like Trevor Horn.

The music sounded exciting and different and strange. If you stick your head really close to an acoustic guitar, or someone singing, or a piano, you’ll hear strange, unexpected things. The aggressive click of plectrum on metal. The ambient resonance of piano strings. The new studios could capture all this. Compare an acoustic track from Neil Young’s Harvest (1972) with one from Johnny Cash’s American IV (2002). Rick Rubin’s recordings of Cash are extraordinarily intimate and affecting. But they don’t sound anything like Johnny Cash sitting in your living room playing some songs. They sound like you’re perched on Johnny Cash’s lap with one ear in his mouth and a stethoscope on his guitar.

When people talk about a shortage of ‘warm’ or ‘natural’ recording, they often blame digital technology. It’s a red herring, because copying a great recording onto CD or into an iPod doesn’t stop it sounding good. Even self-consciously old fashioned recordings like Arif Mardin’s work with Norah Jones was recorded on two inch tape, then copied into a computer for editing, then mixed through an analogue console back into the computer for mastering. It’s now rare to hear recently-produced audio which has never been through any analogue-digital conversion – although a vinyl White Stripes album might qualify.

Until surprisingly recently – maybe 2002 – the majority of records were made the same way they’d been made since the early 70s; through vast multi-channel recording consoles onto 24 or 48-track tape. At huge expense, you’d rent purpose-built rooms containing perhaps a million pounds’ worth of equipment, employing a producer, engineer and tape operator. Digital recording into a computer had been possible since the mid ‘90s, but major producers were often sceptical.

By 2000, Pro Tools, the industry-standard studio software, was mature and stable and sounded good. With a laptop and a small rack of gear costing maybe £25,000 you could record most of a major label album. So the business shifted from the console – the huge knob-covered desk in front of a pair of wardrobe-sized monitor speakers – to the computer screen. You weren’t looking at the band or listening to the music, you were staring at 128 channels of wiggling coloured lines.

“There’s no big equipment any more,” says John Leckie. “No racks of gear with flashing lights and big knobs. The reason I got into studio engineering was that it was the closest thing I could find to getting into a space ship. Now, it isn’t. It’s like going to an accountant. It changes the creative dynamic in the room when it’s just one guy sitting staring at a computer screen.”

“Before, you had a knob that said ‘Bass’. You turned it up, said ‘Ah, that’s better’ and moved on. Now, you have to choose what frequency, and the slope, and how many dBs, and it all makes a difference. There’s a constant temptation to tamper.”

What makes working with Pro Tools really different from tape is that editing is absurdly easy. Most bands record to a click track, so the tempo is locked. If a guitarist plays a riff fifty times, it’s a trivial job to pick the best one and loop it for the duration of the verse.

“Musicians are inherently lazy,” says John. “If there’s an easier way of doing something than actually playing, they’ll do that.” A band might jam together for a bit, then spend hours or days choosing the best bits and pasting a track together. All music is adopting the methods of dance music, of arranging repetitive loops on a grid. With the structure of the song mapped out in coloured boxes on screen, there’s a huge temptation to fill in the gaps, add bits and generally clutter up the sound.

This is also why you no longer hear mistakes on records. Al Kooper’s shambolic Hammond organ playing on Like A Rolling Stone could never happen today because a diligent producer would discreetly shunt his chords back into step. Then there’s tuning. Until electronic guitar tuners appeared around 1980, the band would tune by ear to the studio piano. Everyone was slightly off, but everyone was listening to the pitch of their instrument, so they were musically off.

Today, the process of recording performances, then editing them together into what the band and producer consider a finished track, is just the start. Record companies need to ensure they’ll get that perfect seven-second snippet for the radio testing session, so they’ve added yet more polishing processes.

Once the band and producer are finished, their multitrack – usually a hard disk containing Pro Tools files for maybe 128 channels of audio – is passed onto a mix engineer. LA-based JJ Puig has mixed records for Black Eyed Peas, U2, Snow Patrol, Green Day and Mary J Blige. His work is taken so seriously that he’s often paid royalties rather than a fixed fee. He works from Studio A at Ocean Way Studios on Sunset Strip in LA. The control room looks like a looks like a dimly lit library. Instead of books, the floor-to-ceiling racks are filled with vintage audio gear. This is the room where Frank Sinatra recorded It Was A Very Good Year and Michael Jackson recorded Beat It.

And now, it belongs to JJ Puig. Record companies pay him to essentially re-produce the track, but without the artist and producer breathing down his neck. He told Sound On Sound magazine: “When I mixed The Rolling Stones’ A Bigger Bang album, I reckoned that one of the songs needed a tambourine and a shaker, so I put it on. If Glyn Johns [who produced Sticky Fingers] had done that many years ago, he’d have been shot in the head. Mick Jagger was kind of blown away by what I’d done, no-one had ever done it before on a Stones record, but he couldn’t deny that it was great and fixed the record.”

When a multitrack arrives, JJs assistant tidies it up, re-naming the tracks, putting them in the order he’s used to and colouring the vocal tracks pink. Then JJ goes through tweaking and polishing and trimming every sound that will appear on the record. Numerous companies produce plugins for Pro Tools which are digital emulations of the vintage rack gear that still fills Studio One. If he wants to run Fergie’s vocal through a 1973 Roland Space Echo and a 1968 Marshall stack, it takes a couple of clicks.

Some of these plugins have become notorious. Auto Tune, developed by former seismologist Andy Hildebrand, was released as a Pro Tools plugin in 1997. It automatically corrects out of tune vocals by locking them to the nearest note in a given key. The L1 Ultramaximizer, released in 1994 by the Israeli company Waves, launched the latest round of the loudness war. It’s a very simple looking plugin which neatly and relentlessly makes music sound a lot louder (a subject we’ll return to in a little while).

When JJ has tweaked and polished and trimmed and edited, his stereo mix, is passed on to a mastering engineer, who prepares it for release. What happens to that stereo mix is an extraordinary marriage of art, science and commerce. The tools available are superficially simple – you can really only change the EQ or the volume. But the difference between a mastered and unmastered track is immediately obvious. Mastered recordings sound like real records. That is to say, they all sound a little bit alike.

In a typical week, 30% of the US Top 40 has been mastered at Sterling Sound in New York, which has seven studios working round the clock. There aren’t many mastering engineers in the world. The Strokes recorded Is This It on an old Apple Mac in Gordon Raphael’s basement studio. But it was mastered by Greg Calbi, who also did Born To Run and Graceland.

The business of mastering is infinitely complicated. Mastering engineer Bob Katz has written a 400 page book on mastering techniques, which ends with a poem about the art of mastering: “I see:/a world which recognizes craft and training/in audio itself which is not disdaining...”

The mastering engineer’s principle tool is compression. (Audio compression is completely unrelated to data compression, which is what turns a CD into a MP3 file.) It’s a simple-but-complicated audio technique. The loudest parts of a track are made quieter, which means you can turn the overall level up, without getting distortion, so it sounds louder. Why are TV ads so much louder than TV programmes? Because their soundtracks are heavily compressed. Why are commercial radio stations much louder than Radio 4? Because they’re heavily compressed.

Bands, producers and record labels have always wanted to make loud records, for radio play and jukeboxes. At Motown, they realised that tambourines can cut through almost anything else. If you’ve got someone shaking a tambourine somewhere on a track, everyone in the pub can hear it when it comes on the jukebox. With vinyl, there were clear physical restrictions about how wide the grooves could be, and how many grooves you could fit on a 7-inch single. Mastering engineer Bob Ludwig created ultra-loud master of Led Zeppelin II, but his version was pulled when it skipped on a record player owned by Atlantic boss Ahmet Ertegün’s daughter (if your copy has “RL” scratched in the run-out groove, it’s his master, and worth a bit on eBay.)

Radio testing makes loudness more important than ever before. Your seven-second sample has to cut through when played down the phone to a mum with a screaming kid in the background. Software like Waves L1 (which has now evolved to L3) takes a track and slams every millisecond to the maximum level. With multiband compressors, the track is split into three frequency bands. The bass, mid and treble are all independently made as loud as possible. That’s why you can still hear all the words on a Girls Aloud single playing on a transistor radio half a mile away.

Loudness is hugely controversial. In interviews, mastering engineers are always clear that they’d never push a track too far, that it’s all Some Guy’s fault. But 1,275 people have signed an online petition to get Red Hot Chilli Peppers’ Californication remastered because: “The music should not be mastered simply to make all of the songs sound as loud as possible when broadcast on radio.”

Excessive loudness doesn’t hurt sales. What’s The Story, Morning Glory was one of the loudest CDs ever released until Iggy Pop broke the record with his unlistenably distorted 1997 remastering of The Stooges’ Raw Power.

So the track has been recorded, edited, mixed and mastered. It’s burned on CD and in the shops. Does the polishing stop? Not quite. Just as labels compete to get their music on the radio, so radio stations compete to sound loudest and brightest. Radio stations have always used compressors to help their programming sound clearer and cut through interference.

Now that radio stations are entirely digital, they can go much further. Commercial stations now routinely edit songs themselves, trimming intros, chopping out boring bits, editing in station idents and – I’m not making this up – speeding up songs which they think are too slow or boring for their demographic. Some stations routinely play every track at +3%.

Of course, not everyone does it like this – although most commercial releases will have at least the final layer of mastering polish. There are plenty of people who reject the polishing process, but they’re not getting much US mainstream radio play: Aberfeldy recorded their debut album Young Forever in mono using a single microphone to record the five piece band playing through battery powered amplifiers in a room. The White Stripes famously recorded Elephant on 8-track tape at Toe Rag studios, and the album was mastered by veteran vinyl cutter Noel Summerville (who mastered the Clash’s Combat Rock).

When old-school producers and engineers talk about modern music, they’re convinced that better recorded music would save the music industry from itself. Producer Joe Boyd wrote of the Buena Vista Social Club album (4m copies worldwide): “It’s success is usually ascribed to the film or the brilliant marketing. But I am convinced that the sound of the record was equally if not more important.” Beautifully recorded records by Norah Jones, Bob Dylan and others have certainly shifted units. But the Red Hot Chilli Peppers’ brutally mastered Californication has sold 15m copies worldwide.

Why does most music sound the same these days? Because record companies are scared, they don’t want to take risks, and they’re doing the best they can to generate mainstream radio hits. That is their job, after all. And as the skies continue to darken over the poor benighted business of selling music, labels are going to cling to what they know more fiercely than ever.

So is that is? Have we arrived? Will records continue to increase in loudness and homogeneity until literally everything sounds like Californication? Optimistic engineers dream of a day when the world’s music listeners spontaneously rebel against over-processed music. The Loudness War will end and people will stop buying Black Eyed Peas records. A new era of high-fidelity recording will be born, and men in white coats will once again stride confidently through acoustically-lively studios placing their vintage microphones with care.

Pessimistic engineers can see an endless war against fidelity, as ever-more sophisticated technology makes pop music louder and shiner than ever. As hi-fi systems are abandoned for earbuds and mobile phones, there will be no reason to make nice-sounding records. Worse still, the technology behind systems like Waves Ultramaximizer could easily be built into an iPod, automatically remastering all those dull old Neil Young records into BIG LOUD IN-YOUR-FACE BANGERS.

In reality, technology might save the recording process. At the moment, Pro Tools operates at twice (or four times) the resolution of a CD. A great deal of quality is lost as those huge files are squished to the CD format, before being further squished into MP3s on your iPod. In a very few years, we’ll have 1 terabyte iPods, easily capable of handling thousands of recordings in their original high-definition form. At the same time, every part of the signal chain – from earbuds to digital/audio converters – is improving and getting cheaper. Studio software is also constantly developing, so perhaps mastering and compression can become more subtle and less abrasive. It’s quite possible that we’ll look back at the first years of this century as a crude interval of low-fidelity sound. And maybe the record industry will even persuade us to re-buy all those old records yet again.
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Post by manray » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:52 pm

I think this was discussed back in nineteen-seventy-fuck-knows.

Not relevant to dance/club music really because without compression it would probably sound so flat and dull everyone would fall asleep.

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Post by serox » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:54 pm

manray wrote:I think this was discussed back in nineteen-seventy-fuck-knows.

Not relevant to dance/club music really because without compression it would probably sound so flat and dull everyone would fall asleep.
I think it is relevant to dance music today tho. I think recently alot of dance music has lost its feeling and that is to do with the above.
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Post by FSTZ » Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:14 pm

manray wrote:nineteen-seventy-fuck-knows

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Post by djelements » Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:21 pm

This is the kind of shit I try not to think about when I make "music." Also, EQ-ing is still important, cause otherwise you get distortion.
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Post by chunkie » Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:27 pm

for the most part that article is absolute shite

both JJ and Katz are world class and whilst 'loudness' is an issue in modern music there is plenty of electronic music that doesn't compress the fuck out of everything and actually uses a dynamic range

why you think dubstep is any different i've got no idea

most commercial music gets professionally mastered - compression is part of mastering

i don't know your commercial experience but you should also bear in mind the manufacturing process (especially re. vinyl)

if you want to get into how much x or y should be compressed then thats the very old loudness debate and applies to all music released on a commercial level

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Post by auan » Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:50 pm

Joe Public bought Californication because it was the first album after a 4-year break by one of the biggest rock bands in the world, and because it was a return to their classic line-up. Joe Public didn't, and doesn't, give a fuck that it's compressed to fuck. Joe Public just wants to hear new tunes (at the time) by a decent band.

The guy doesn't know what he's talking about. He's obviously involved in the industry, but as a journo, not somebody who actually knows what's going on. He gets details wrong in just about every paragraph. He talks about "wardrobe-sized" monitor speakers. NS-10s aren't any bigger than regular monitors, not even as big as hi-fi speakers. And there isn't a recording studio in the world that would need a sub to record a rock band. Having 128 tracks on a pop song is insanity. Bohemian Rhapsody might have reached that level. My Chemical Romance did one that had a string section and marching band in it. It was in Sound on Sound and they were aghast that the Pro Tools session was over 100 tracks. Pro-Tools isn't ridiculously easy to edit on, compared to tape. With tape, you just took a razor blade and some Scotch tape to it, and literally looped the fucker. It had already been around for decades before Pink Floyd popularised it.

John Leckie doesn't know what he's talking about either. Which is a shame, considering he was behind the controls for some of the best British pop albums of the last 20 years. He just comes across as a daft old tnuc, set in his ways. You want a Bass knob? No problem. I could go on KVR right now and find you a dozen free ones and it would take me all of ten minutes.

And the real killer is, pop music doesn't all sound the same. In fact the definition of pop is wider now than it's ever been. You switch on Radio One during the day and within an hour you'll hear hip-hop, indie rock, straight-up cheesy pop, balls-out American rock, house, a month or two ago, you'd even have heard Burial. And there's hundreds of bands innovative enough to crossover two or more of these styles. Maybe in America, where radio stations are more selective and specialised in what they play, things might start to sound the same. But don't go writing an article slating the whole pop industry just because you can't be arsed putting down your cheeseburger to change the station.

Overcompression, I will give him. It is an endless war, and one that had another thread on here in answer to an article that I can say, without hyperbole, was a million times better than this one.
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Post by somejerk » Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:06 pm

great read, thank you.

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Post by serox » Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:06 pm

somejerk wrote:great read, thank you.
Hope your not being sarcastic :) Was regretting posting it now lol.
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Post by FSTZ » Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:08 pm

^^^nahh man

no regrets, you are opening up a dialoge

I personally dont read posts with that much substance because my A.D.D.




wait,


what was I on about???

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Post by somejerk » Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:12 pm

no, i really did enjoy reading it. i agreed with a lot of if, actually.

in the United States, ALL OF THE MUSIC SOUNDS THE SAME. from the "hiphop" stations to the "rock" stations to the "pop" stations and now even the "jazz" station - it all sounds the fucking same. i don't know how this applies out side of Florida, US, but here the radio has become a homogonized nightmare. whether it be the formula for writing the music, the melodies used or the way the vocalist is emitting their voice, it all sounds the same.

now, pop music in general has become more diverse, i agree with Auan. however, this diversity is not being displayed on our radio stations, where with any given station, i promise you will only hear 15-20 different artists in a day. only during odd hours of the night and early morning will you hear any break in the usual formatting.

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Post by auan » Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:37 pm

somejerk wrote:now, pop music in general has become more diverse, i agree with Auan. however, this diversity is not being displayed on our radio stations, where with any given station, i promise you will only hear 15-20 different artists in a day. only during odd hours of the night and early morning will you hear any break in the usual formatting.
Auan wrote:slating the whole pop industry just because you can't be arsed putting down your cheeseburger to change the station.
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I've been to Florida, they had the best cheeseburgers in the world in this little shack just outside Clearwater heading towards Tampa. The cheese was processed but not to the kind of plastic consistency you get from supermarket processed cheese. And the bun was really starchy like a good American burger. But the meat itself was really fatty and greasy like a good British burger. And the relish had just the right amount of spice to it, somewhat Cajun. Damn, that was a fucking good cheeseburger.
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Post by auan » Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:43 pm

Serox wrote:
somejerk wrote:great read, thank you.
Hope your not being sarcastic :) Was regretting posting it now lol.
Nah don't man. I'd just finished my first shift of the day and I'm about to start my second. I needed a good rant.

I like pop music. Not every tune or every band but I like what it stands for, harmless, disposable, wide-reaching, accessible music, and I'll fight pop's corner in the face of lazy journalists and holier-than-thou musical snobs until I die.

The article itself was alright apart from the details. I just disagree with it. On almost every level.
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Post by two oh one » Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:51 pm

Heh heh. Thanks for bringing that thread up again, Auan. To think, we idly thought about doing something about it at one point.

I love it on Streamizm when Bert drops in some '80s Electro. It's like an eargasm. You can feel the textures and space, even coming through shitty lossy web compression. Then, it's back to binary volume levels again.

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I think most pop music sounds the same, but it's not all down to compression. Somebody posted up wavs of commercial music and they showed that even acoustic guitar stuff was compressed to hell. Some commercial tracks even CLIP.
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Post by somejerk » Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:55 pm

two oh one wrote:Some commercial tracks even CLIP.

:o


i have DNB mp3s that do that, but i figured it was the way they were ripped from vinyl.

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Post by two oh one » Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:14 pm

somejerk wrote:
two oh one wrote:Some commercial tracks even CLIP.

:o


i have DNB mp3s that do that, but i figured it was the way they were ripped from vinyl.
It could be because they were vinyl.

I found some interesting stuff on Gearslutz. Pretty shocking...


But, it's all just music, innit? Sod this techy stuff, eh?

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Post by Sharmaji » Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:42 pm

this techy stuff is super-important... but not in a musician-sense of stuff, in an engineering-sense of stuff. sure the line is blurred by definition in electronic music but still-- engineering is engineering. Jack Puig is a phenomenal engineer.

you UK heads have it great with Radio 1. But for us in the states, espeically in primary markets like NYC and LA, radio really does all sound the same. they call it top 40 but really it's more like top 15. It should come as no surprise that there's a gigantic amount of market research done on keys, arrangements, etc. and that's just 'pop' music.

pop-hiphop is the worst of it. every song has the exact, and i mean EXACT same arrangement. 8 bar intro, 16 bar verse, 8 bar chorus, 4 bar turnaround, etc.

i'm not gonna lament it because pop music is a very large commodity, and always has been. it's just amazing how shit--and shit sounding-- pop music is in the states right now.

and yes, the mastering is crap. anyone bought a recent dancehall single on a major in the last 5 years? Sean paul? play it up against something from the mid/late 90s and you'l see just how grainy/distorted/bassless it is. REGGAE. NO BASS. yech.
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Post by tempest » Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:52 pm

Yeah I thought that article was a good read, thanks for posting it up.

I agree to some extent, ofcourse there was a bit of hyperbole but I do see the point he is making about the way pop records are produced completely as a product to be agressivly pushed toward a demographic, and the whole loudness war is just a product of that.

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Post by danolboy » Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:49 pm

I definitely agree with his views on the fidelity of modern pop records. Reading some of the replies I think that some have mis understood what he was saying about all pop records sounding the same, he isn't talking so much about the content of the music itself but the way in which it is produced and the sound presented. There is definitely an identikit sheen to the music that is presented on mainstream radio which has slowly filtered down to to the way records are now produced in the first instance, with the same frequencies and arrangements being focused on and pumped out regardless of genre. This makes a big difference to the way the music is experienced, taking away the unique sounds, frequencies and focal points that exist within different genres.
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Post by somejerk » Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:56 pm

my response was to somone that said that pop music is in a good state as it is diverse. my point was that as much as a variety as there is, most of it does not get play and what does get played is structured the same as other genres. also, the recording/mastering part of all genres are done similarly as well. therefore, the radio does lack diversity.

modern alternative music and "hiphop" are the two that suffer the most. while both genres used represent the cutting edge of music, both (in terms of what is represented on the radio) are like lame, old dogs and need to be put down.

long live real music that does not conform to the standards of the "music industry" and to the artists from EVERY genre that create the music they love, not the music that will pay their bills.

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