Recording A Club

alias · Post by **alias** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:36 pm

Alright people, I'm DJing in a club in a few weeks time and i want to record it but i dont want "clean, sparkly" audio. I want it as if its a sidewinder recording so i mean you can hear the feedback so it gives it more of a "real" feel.

I have one idea and that was having a stereo pair of condensor mics at a very low recording level - would this work? Thanks. Label.

flippo · Post by **flippo** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:05 am

I've often wonderd how they do this. Get the club atmosphere withouit it sounding absolutley shit.

I'm guessing you probably mix the clean signal with some of the recorded?

3rdeye · Post by **3rdeye** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:35 am

yup thats the way Label - ive done a bit of work recording multitrack audio for gigs and festivals, and usually use a stereo pair of condensers facing into the crowd - or at the back of the venue facing the stage.

then just mix the audience mics at low level with the direct signal as Flippo said. easy peasy!

lonecurrent · Post by **lonecurrent** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:19 pm

would the MCs mic suffice?

powerpill · Post by **powerpill** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:08 pm

no you want to do what flippo said.

2xsmall condenser mics facing the crowd as high up as possible and then youll have to mix it all down with whatevers come off the mixer.

ozols man · Post by **ozols man** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:20 pm

loool

to be fair mate u should try get the best recording possible. i doubt the side winder lot wanted a faux raw sound, they probably just didnt have the capabilites to have the best recordings possible..

justin roche · Post by **justin roche** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:15 pm

I think if you have the budget, you should use as many mics as possible as well as a line out feed as this will allow you to choose which channels to choose to create your own mix.

To get a good the best sound, I recommend that you place the mic's in various locations in the venue.

Placing mic's in the crowd may be tricky, so, if I were you, I would try and get to the venue while it is empty to see if it is possible to place mic's in places that will not get disturbed by disturbed dancers and test how they sound with the club empty.

The sound will change as the venue fills up, as people will absorb a certain amount of the frequency content as well as add to the reverb refractions and ambient noise.

Placing a mic in the crowd is called ambient mic'ing and there are several factors that you should consider when setting up an ambient mic in your scenario.

These include:
Health and Safety, sound quality, equipment safety and signal synch (this applies to only large sound reinforcement installations, such as found at the main stages at Glastonbury, as sound takes time to travel, anyway, don't worry about this one for smaller venues).

The types of mic's should be considered as well.
As different microphone models offer different frequency range and unique characteristics according to model and make (and some times use).
Also, some mic's are more suitable for location recording than others, especially in a scenario where the mic's may get knocked.

I would probably steer clear of using any super sensitive and expensive large diaphragm condenser microphones and perhaps use a good quality dynamic microphone. Sure make loads of great ones, many which have been the industry standard microphones for live sound recording and reinforcement for years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microphone
http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/ ... ew_content

The Shure SM series of pro audio dynamic microphones should be enough for a good quality recording.
Check out their dynamic range in the individual mic's spec for more information.

These mic's are not only dynamic, so do not need any extra power (such as fantom power or specialist pre amp not included on basic mixer), but they are also designed to be more robust than studio microphones.

I would imagine for a straight forward recording, all you would need is a couple of SM mic's, good quality leads, a mixer, and a line feed, ideally, all feeds being fed into a recording medium individually (i.e. one channel per mic / line out channel).

This will enable you to mix down at a later date, and perhaps take out any bad feeds.

Anyway. hope this helps.

FSTZ1 · Post by **FSTZ1** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:20 pm

man...

you're killing me with the old thread bumpage

darkmatteruk · Post by **darkmatteruk** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:33 pm

FSTZ wrote:man...

you're killing me with the old thread bumpage

x2

Pallms · Post by **Pallms** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:57 pm

darkmatterUK wrote:
FSTZ wrote:man...

you're killing me with the old thread bumpage
x2

x3

3rdeye · Post by **3rdeye** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:35 am

FSTZ wrote:man...

you're killing me with the old thread bumpage

me too

why post answers to years old questions?

darkmatteruk · Post by **darkmatteruk** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:38 am

3RDEYE wrote:
FSTZ wrote:man...

you're killing me with the old thread bumpage
me too

why post answers to years old questions?

my mate said something really stupid to me a couple of years back, i blanked him, think i might give him a bell and continue the conversation

DZA · Post by **DZA** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:40 am

hes done it in bare threads

Big MD · Post by **Big MD** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:59 am

my idea ist to make two different recordings.

one direct from the sistem to your recording equitment

and the other whit 5 dynamic mics hanging over the dancefloor (you need for that a 5 canal mixer )

after the session, you take the microphone recordings and filter in cubase as much as you can the music out. after you put the "studiolike" recording whit the microphone recording together. et voila you have a nearly perfect clubfeeling on your record, and it's authentic - if you syncronize the 2 records perfect.

Big MD · Post by **Big MD** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:03 am

omg -.- now i saw it! damn and i try to answer whit my ugly english to explayn how to doo something thats years ago gon -.-

jokey guiz!

caeraphym · Post by **caeraphym** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:33 am

The_Dza88 wrote: hes done it in bare threads

THAT@S NO F*CKING EXCUSE AND YOU KNOW IT

Neither is being a bloody Channel Islander either.

Srsly GRRR...

DZA · Post by **DZA** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:09 pm

Caeraphym wrote:
The_Dza88 wrote: hes done it in bare threads
THAT@S NO F*CKING EXCUSE AND YOU KNOW IT

Neither is being a bloody Channel Islander either.

Srsly GRRR...

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