more brilliant than the sun....

Whistla · Post by **Whistla** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:01 pm

http://www.amazon.com/More-Brilliant-Th ... 119&sr=8-1 < $80 plus

ajantis_art · Post by **ajantis_art** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:19 pm

DJ Whistla wrote:http://www.amazon.com/More-Brilliant-Th ... 119&sr=8-1 < $80 plus

hmmm. morally wrong to steal it from my college library? i know where stanton's vote would go lol

stanton · Post by **stanton** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:11 pm

Is it morally wrong to run it through some OCR software and make a PDF out of it is the question.

Seriously though, if anyone has a copy they're getting rid of or would swap for some tune let me know.

spooKs · Post by **spooKs** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:13 pm

haha they have this in my campus library, ten seconds walk away. maybe i'll go and start it - beats working eh?

rekordah · Post by **rekordah** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:41 pm

stanton wrote:Is it morally wrong to run it through some OCR software and make a PDF out of it is the question.

Seriously though, if anyone has a copy they're getting rid of or would swap for some tune let me know.

Gonna grab it from my Uni Library - Your more than welcome to borrow it for a bit. Hopefully it isn't a One Week Loaner as otherwise i'm pretty sure I can keep renewing it online pretty much indefinitely.

gravious · Post by **gravious** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:58 pm

rekorder wrote:
stanton wrote:Is it morally wrong to run it through some OCR software and make a PDF out of it is the question.

Seriously though, if anyone has a copy they're getting rid of or would swap for some tune let me know.
Gonna grab it from my Uni Library - Your more than welcome to borrow it for a bit. Hopefully it isn't a One Week Loaner as otherwise i'm pretty sure I can keep renewing it online pretty much indefinitely.

Ahem...

...you got a scanner mate?

On a side note, anyone read any Jeff Noon? He had some strange little stories about the future of club music... (along with all the licking of feathers and such)

selector.dub.u · Post by **selector.dub.u** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:05 pm

It was an enjoyable and enlightening read. I will never look at scratching and sampling the same again.

I think i am going to re-read it

deville · Post by **deville** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:09 pm

There aren't really many other books like this, pretty unique style. Someone who is quite similar is DJ Spooky, he's written a few things, picked up a couple in NYC. I wrote about all this stuff at Uni and have loads of books but not here, will make some more recs as I remember them.
Basically More Brilliant is a attenpt to use the toolbox provided by Deleuze and Guattari so they are a good place to start, several books on them and music...
Oh here's some more..Obviously Simon Reynolds is another one, Jon Savage, Erik Davis and there is a great essay in the book Nietsche The Genealogy of Morality if you wanna get deep written by one of CCRU edited by the head of philosophy there... geek alert. oh yeaaaaaaaaaah

ps I like the new 'serious' dubstep forum, ha

deville · Post by **deville** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:11 pm

Also Eshun has written some nice pieces for the Wire over the years, in fact there is a lot of this kind of stuff in there (for better or worse....)
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stanton · Post by **stanton** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:16 pm

gravious wrote: On a side note, anyone read any Jeff Noon? He had some strange little stories about the future of club music... (along with all the licking of feathers and such)

Yeah I read a few of his books a few years back, pixel juice and some other bits. I can't remember a hell of a lot about them to be honest. There were quite a few interesting book dealing with viruses and emergent viral wot not in the mid 90s.

juliun_c90 · Post by **juliun_c90** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:18 pm

DeVille wrote:ps I like the new 'serious' dubstep forum, ha

yes it makes a refreshing change to have a culturally-informed discussion.

tidy arse by the way.

spooKs · Post by **spooKs** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:21 pm

DeVille wrote:ps I like the new 'serious' dubstep forum, ha

yeah attracts more gash innit

deville · Post by **deville** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:24 pm

juliun_c90 wrote:
DeVille wrote: tidy arse by the way.

Thanks, it is actually my own.

selector.dub.u · Post by **selector.dub.u** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:51 pm

stanton wrote:
gravious wrote: On a side note, anyone read any Jeff Noon? He had some strange little stories about the future of club music... (along with all the licking of feathers and such)

Yeah I read a few of his books a few years back, pixel juice and some other bits. I can't remember a hell of a lot about them to be honest. There were quite a few interesting book dealing with viruses and emergent viral wot not in the mid 90s.

I think perhaps some of this was due to a re-emergence of some of the ideas contained in this book/essay:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Electronic_Revolution

.

here is a copy online:

http://archive.groovy.net/dl/elerev.html

rekordah · Post by **rekordah** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:43 pm

juliun_c90 wrote:
DeVille wrote:ps I like the new 'serious' dubstep forum, ha
yes it makes a refreshing change to have a culturally-informed discussion.

Very much so. Infact I'd love it if there were a Cultural Discussion sub-forum.

autonomic · Post by **autonomic** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:40 pm

MBTTS is really a huge piece of writing. I can't think of another music book that's made such a mark on me in the last 15 years.

If you can't find a copy of the book, the afterword from MBTTS is actually available in slightly different form on the CCRU site (http://ccru.net/swarm1/1_motion.htm). It's great because it gives an overview of the concepts he puts to work in the rest of the text, and runs through a bit of an Afrofuturist genealogy.

Also worth tracking down: Last Angel of History by the Black Audio Film Collective (1995) and Eshun's Further Considerations of Afrofuturism in the New Centennial Review (2003).

gravious · Post by **gravious** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:40 pm

rekorder wrote:
juliun_c90 wrote:
DeVille wrote:ps I like the new 'serious' dubstep forum, ha
yes it makes a refreshing change to have a culturally-informed discussion.
Very much so. Infact I'd love it if there were a Cultural Discussion sub-forum.

All Crew Muss Critically Engage

epithet · Post by **epithet** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:51 am

On this ship there are no passengers only crew. So allow me to critically engage in my own little sonic fiction...

autonomic wrote:... the afterword from MBTTS is actually available in slightly different form on the CCRU site (http://ccru.net/swarm1/1_motion.htm). It's great because it gives an overview of the concepts he puts to work in the rest of the text, and runs through a bit of an Afrofuturist genealogy.

Nice one man. In reading that, i think in dubstep he would have loved the progression of the breakbeat continuum into breakstep as opposed to the de evolution of it into half step. One is the accelerated velocity into the unknown the other a decelerated step back to the past via the much explored dubsonics.

Never more so has the breakbeat continuum been encapsulated in one tune than in 'toastys -i seek knowledge'. Truly a revolution in sonic fiction. The jump off point for a branching timeline in the multidimensional musicverse. From the opening afro percussion intro, the rocket take off wind up and and the catch of breath into the first drop, the warped sampladelic female vocals, the glitched out techno beat, the atonality of what sounds like an alien spaceship humming and throbbing in the background. Brilliant. But flip it over and in seeking higher knowledge, is it more brilliant than 'like sun' ?

Once again we are introduced to the sound of an alien spacecraft via afro-percussion. This time in observational stealth mode. The unmanned bridge of the motherplane from nation of islam’s finest work of black sci fi fame. A stepped militaristic beat reminiscent of the fruit of islam or S1W's ensues. The sound of a teleporter introduces a pilot. A klaxon warning suggests one should buckle up 'keep moving' an acceleration is imminent, but we dont. Instead the bass drops and you round the dark side of the moon to reveal something more brilliant, Ra the sun. Once again the klaxon sounds forewarning another which signifies the opening of hyperspace, a tear in the spacetime fabric. One last look back. Floating dream like strings imbue a melancholic feeling of possibly never seeing things as they were again. Then it's through to the unknown unaccompanied by a feeling of acceleration. Why ?... cos you have just travelled without moving. The speed of thought as projected through space is faster than the speed of light. You have outrun the light. Like the sun at dusk as the last rays fade, this work sets behind a new muscial horizon. Leaving a gate open for many to follow.

Coincidence that toasty chose these names for his works ? I doubt it. and how would kodwo feel about this masterpiece being made by a white british guy ? IMHO he wouldn't feel anything but pride. Recombinating and reconstituting matter is not exclusive to humans based on melanin content. If anything he may see the cycle of the black atlantic completed only to start again. One revolution at a time.

parson · Post by **parson** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:15 am

quality thread. i don't have much to add.

wondering if any of you are familiar with douglas rushkoff though. feelin that dude a lot.

geoff · Post by **geoff** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:19 am

epithet wrote:On this ship there are no passengers only crew. So allow me to critically engage in my own little sonic fiction...

autonomic wrote:... the afterword from MBTTS is actually available in slightly different form on the CCRU site (http://ccru.net/swarm1/1_motion.htm). It's great because it gives an overview of the concepts he puts to work in the rest of the text, and runs through a bit of an Afrofuturist genealogy.
Nice one man. In reading that, i think in dubstep he would have loved the progression of the breakbeat continuum into breakstep as opposed to the de evolution of it into half step. One is the accelerated velocity into the unknown the other a decelerated step back to the past via the much explored dubsonics.

Never more so has the breakbeat continuum been encapsulated in one tune than in 'toastys -i seek knowledge'. Truly a revolution in sonic fiction. The jump off point for a branching timeline in the multidimensional musicverse. From the opening afro percussion intro, the rocket take off wind up and and the catch of breath into the first drop, the warped sampladelic female vocals, the glitched out techno beat, the atonality of what sounds like an alien spaceship humming and throbbing in the background. Brilliant. But flip it over and in seeking higher knowledge, is it more brilliant than 'like sun' ?

Once again we are introduced to the sound of an alien spacecraft via afro-percussion. This time in observational stealth mode. The unmanned bridge of the motherplane from nation of islam’s finest work of black sci fi fame. A stepped militaristic beat reminiscent of the fruit of islam or S1W's ensues. The sound of a teleporter introduces a pilot. A klaxon warning suggests one should buckle up 'keep moving' an acceleration is imminent, but we dont. Instead the bass drops and you round the dark side of the moon to reveal something more brilliant, Ra the sun. Once again the klaxon sounds forewarning another which signifies the opening of hyperspace, a tear in the spacetime fabric. One last look back. Floating dream like strings imbue a melancholic feeling of possibly never seeing things as they were again. Then it's through to the unknown unaccompanied by a feeling of acceleration. Why ?... cos you have just travelled without moving. The speed of thought as projected through space is faster than the speed of light. You have outrun the light. Like the sun at dusk as the last rays fade, this work sets behind a new muscial horizon. Leaving a gate open for many to follow.

Coincidence that toasty chose these names for his works ? I doubt it. and how would kodwo feel about this masterpiece being made by a white british guy ? IMHO he wouldn't feel anything but pride. Recombinating and reconstituting matter is not exclusive to humans based on melanin content. If anything he may see the cycle of the black atlantic completed only to start again. One revolution at a time.

You are dubmugga, still flogging the breakstep dead horse.

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