Dubstep Types/Styles

michael1406 · Post by **michael1406** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:50 am

I've been half into dubstep for a while now, I have a couple of CDs and I've introduced a few people to the genre as a whole. I've been reading the odd post here and there, and I've seen sub-styles within dubstep (e.g. darkstep) mentioned. Can anyone name a few and maybe link to some samples of the styles?

One of the reasons I'm curious about the range sub-styles is because of this quote from GrimeForum:

if you're after chaotic wobble then i'd suggest rusko, caspa & coki. if you like th techy stuff ramadanman, 2562, martyn & trg. if you like the 2 steppy vibe listen to benga and d1. if you like the soulful stuff conquest, silkie, d1 & harry craze are for you. Skream makes everything.

Do you agree with that? Disagree? I seem to like all styles of dubstep I come across, as they can appeal to different moods. It seems to be living up to what I said to someone before - it's the slow version of Drum & Bass (thriving vinyl-based instrumental scene with a few MCs, where the beats are so varied that you can almost have a tune/set for every mood you are in).

BTW Sorry if this has been done before, I didn't find anything in my search.

spiderman · Post by **spiderman** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:01 pm

dunno bout comparing it to drum n bass so directly cos thats a touchy issue.

but i agree that there is definately a massive variety of styles that complement every mood, one of the beauties of the genre.....

that said i reckon its better to embrace it in a way such that we aint causing divisions......i mean everyone can sorta differentiate by ear, jump up, techy, mellow, soulful etc etc....

but making them to distinctly seperate just means ppl will have limited exposure to the scene as they will just relate to the "sub genre" that appeals to them most n sorta lose attention on the other styles....

at the moment, were its sorta unofficial, its the BEST cos the styles are all kept together, there all played together and everyone gets to experience a massive range rather then a narrow imprint of the sound.

also the mixing of all the variations in styles is wat causes the innovation that drives alot of the new ideas.

my 2 cents.

bunzer0 · Post by **bunzer0** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:09 pm

dubstep is dubstep !!!!

T_macabre · Post by **T_macabre** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:11 pm

one of the beautys of Dubstep is that it is all "Dubstep"

no need for silly sub genres, yeah different sounds and styles are about, but dividing it is not the one...it can take influences from any genre...

say a tune had a sample from country and western (it could!?)
would that be "countryandwesternstep"

id say you could catergorize producers and labels are offering different sides of it, but its all under the same blanket

garage failed when it started becoming split up and categorised

spiderman · Post by **spiderman** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:29 pm

ye its all dubstep.

different styles, but all the same music.

ruckspin · Post by **ruckspin** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:43 pm

TNT wrote: garage failed when it started becoming split up and categorised

i thought it failed when it became so blatantly commercial the tunes stopped being any good?

it's having a bit of a revival via dubstep now tho...

michael1406 · Post by **michael1406** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:59 pm

I agree that it's not really good to have sub-genres, but what I mean (which I should have said, really) is more referring to them in a descriptive way, a sort of friendly name. Not as split up as the 2-step/4x4/speed garage/whatever styles of Garage, but to be able to say "I prefer techy dubstep" is a fair enough point I think. But that is, however nearing the line.

Pada · Post by **Pada** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:05 pm

Michael1406 wrote:I agree that it's not really good to have sub-genres, but what I mean (which I should have said, really) is more referring to them in a descriptive way, a sort of friendly name. Not as split up as the 2-step/4x4/speed garage/whatever styles of Garage, but to be able to say "I prefer techy dubstep" is a fair enough point I think. But that is, however nearing the line.

yeah it is treading near the line!

surely it woudn't be that much mopre effort to instead of saying
"I like Tech-Step"
to saying "I like 2562, Martyn kinda shit"
Thats how the records are catogrised in tribe records in leeds into labels/arists that have a simerler style so for example "Pinch/Tectonic/Punch Drunk/Bristol" instead of just "tech-step" and into "Capsa/Rusko/Sub Soldiers/Storming" instead of "jump up"

BTW i know that a "jump up" catagory would contain more than just Capsa/Rusko/Sub Soldiers/Storming but that would be what the same records would be in if it was divided that way!

spooKs · Post by **spooKs** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:10 pm

ramadanman, martyn and trg are way more 2steppy than benga and d1!

michael1406 · Post by **michael1406** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:14 pm

adisize wrote:
Michael1406 wrote:I agree that it's not really good to have sub-genres, but what I mean (which I should have said, really) is more referring to them in a descriptive way, a sort of friendly name. Not as split up as the 2-step/4x4/speed garage/whatever styles of Garage, but to be able to say "I prefer techy dubstep" is a fair enough point I think. But that is, however nearing the line.
yeah it is treading near the line!

surely it woudn't be that much mopre effort to instead of saying
"I like Tech-Step"
to saying "I like 2562, Martyn kinda shit"
Thats how the records are catogrised in tribe records in leeds into labels/arists that have a simerler style so for example "Pinch/Tectonic/Punch Drunk/Bristol" instead of just "tech-step" and into "Capsa/Rusko/Sub Soldiers/Storming" instead of "jump up"

BTW i know that a "jump up" catagory would contain more than just Capsa/Rusko/Sub Soldiers/Storming but that would be what the same records would be in if it was divided that way!

I think the natural progression of a genre (and fans as well) is to branch off into different styles (not sub-genres), it's just controlling how far people follow the styles and how far the styles get from each other that what's important. It's weird how you can say dark dubstep but when people start shortening it to darkstep it's a different game.

But, getting back to it, can anyone names different producers that I can check out that make distinctive styles? I like to know what's what, I'm like that.

jrj2020 · Post by **jrj2020** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:41 pm

Unfortunately divisions are inevitable IMO. You will always get people who dislike the caspa/rusko style of things and they will unfortunately become elitist and look down on the more 'jump up' side of things. I'm speaking from experience here because thats exactly what I'm like with DnB!

bunzer0 · Post by **bunzer0** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:42 pm

dubstep shudn't be compared to d&b

boy_arena · Post by **boy_arena** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:36 pm

BunZer0 wrote:dubstep is dubstep !!!!

Pada · Post by **Pada** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:01 pm

Michael1406 wrote:
adisize wrote:
Michael1406 wrote:I agree that it's not really good to have sub-genres, but what I mean (which I should have said, really) is more referring to them in a descriptive way, a sort of friendly name. Not as split up as the 2-step/4x4/speed garage/whatever styles of Garage, but to be able to say "I prefer techy dubstep" is a fair enough point I think. But that is, however nearing the line.
yeah it is treading near the line!

surely it woudn't be that much mopre effort to instead of saying
"I like Tech-Step"
to saying "I like 2562, Martyn kinda shit"
Thats how the records are catogrised in tribe records in leeds into labels/arists that have a simerler style so for example "Pinch/Tectonic/Punch Drunk/Bristol" instead of just "tech-step" and into "Capsa/Rusko/Sub Soldiers/Storming" instead of "jump up"

BTW i know that a "jump up" catagory would contain more than just Capsa/Rusko/Sub Soldiers/Storming but that would be what the same records would be in if it was divided that way!
I think the natural progression of a genre (and fans as well) is to branch off into different styles (not sub-genres), it's just controlling how far people follow the styles and how far the styles get from each other that what's important. It's weird how you can say dark dubstep but when people start shortening it to darkstep it's a different game.

But, getting back to it, can anyone names different producers that I can check out that make distinctive styles? I like to know what's what, I'm like that.

Why did you quote my post? lol

press · Post by **press** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:36 pm

i guess im in the minorty being that i see subgenres as little more than ways to easily find stuff your into.

i completely disagree that subgenres are any detriment to any kind of music.

i think its just a natural progression that any genre once it gets big enough to have different style within it that these style eventually get called one thing or another.

giving the subgenre a name just simplifies how you explain the kind of the sound the song is. why try to explain it using a few sentences or descriptives when you can do the same thing with one word and get to the same conclusion.

we all ready use other genres subgenres to discribe our sound anyway why not invent our own terms, or be ok with them coming about on their own? ie. jump-upy wobble stuff, technoy 4x4 stuff, garagey drumz, 2step style beat etc etc.

just how i see it.

edit: haha some of my pionts were made as i was typing...too slow

kidcazual · Post by **kidcazual** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:45 pm

BunZer0 wrote:dubstep is dubstep !!!!

yes bruv , when will they learn

the only music i like is the stuff my ears do ,

jrj2020 · Post by **jrj2020** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:56 pm

BunZer0 wrote:dubstep is dubstep !!!!

Nice try.

psyolopher · Post by **psyolopher** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:03 am

psy dubstep <3
my newest creation......

i dont really care anymore, i make what i make!

fixation · Post by **fixation** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:44 am

BunZer0 wrote:dubstep is dubstep !!!!

THIS x1000, stop with all the catergorising!!!!

jonnyrebel · Post by **jonnyrebel** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:50 am

I would refer you something iposted up a while ago but i cant be bothered and it got quite heated.

Bun zero is spot on on both counts.

the less we talk about it the better though...

safe

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