Trademark names

zillion · Post by **zillion** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:50 am

So i went on my myspace the other and had a message from breakthrough hospitality. I was well chuffed till i opened it and all they said was i had to change my name as zillion had been trademarked.

Anyone else had this problem?

What can i do? apart from think of a new name.

Cheers

elbe · Post by **elbe** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:46 am

just can't think of any help for you, soz.

Jak The lad · Post by **Jak The lad** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:53 am

Plasticman had this problem didn't he?

Also a house dj called Anna Kiss (think it was the other way round where she had to prove she had been using the name for longer or something, dont hold me on it lol)

theonelikepaul · Post by **theonelikepaul** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:54 am

Here is a search facility for checking actual real trademarks:
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tm/t-find/t-find-text/

If you put in 'zillion' you can see its actually been registered at least three times, one by a toilet product manufacturing company!
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tm/t-find/t-find- ... rk=1585481

I don't see any registration from hospitality. What they probably mean is that they havent actually made it a 'tm', but its an established artist name, and they don't want you treading on thier toes.

The thing is, this happens all the time anyway. Think about it, you've got dubstep's Quest, and break's DJ Quest (cyberfunk). Dubstep's 'Formula' and about 20 other hip hop guys also called Formula. Theres Brighton based d&b DJ Yougster steppin on the real Youngsta's toes.

At the end of the day you reside within your own scene so it ultimately might never matter, oh unless your called Bad Company, try and release an album and realise there is a long established rock group with the same name so have to rename yourself to )B|EC or something..

Plasticman / Plastician.... its neverending

miss_molinari · Post by **miss_molinari** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:00 am

zillion wrote:So i went on my myspace the other and had a message from breakthrough hospitality. I was well chuffed till i opened it and all they said was i had to change my name as zillion had been trademarked.

Anyone else had this problem?

What can i do? apart from think of a new name.

Cheers

in all seriousness...just ignore their socialist nonsense. they are trying to set up a monopoly on that name, and if you can use it and do it better then fuck them.

blizzardmusic · Post by **blizzardmusic** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:36 am

zillion wrote:So i went on my myspace the other and had a message from breakthrough hospitality. I was well chuffed till i opened it and all they said was i had to change my name as zillion had been trademarked.

Anyone else had this problem?

What can i do? apart from think of a new name.

Cheers

psyolopher · Post by **psyolopher** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:43 am

Not funny Blizzie!
Hey try: ZillianDubstep or ZillianProduction

John Locke · Post by **John Locke** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:56 am

miss_molinari wrote:just ignore their socialist nonsense.

do actually have even the first idea of what the word "socialist" means?

no? better not 2 use it then innit

dom · Post by **dom** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:36 pm

Battle Gong wrote:
miss_molinari wrote:just ignore their socialist nonsense.

do actually have even the first idea of what the word "socialist" means?

no? better not 2 use it then innit

lol go get a dictionary innit

andrez · Post by **andrez** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:13 am

It's like the Dust Brothers having to rename themselves the Chemical Brothers.

The trick is finding something - somehow - that hasn't been used. Even then it'll probably crop up in some obscure music scene in Central Asia.

Good luck!!

miss_molinari · Post by **miss_molinari** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:48 am

Battle Gong wrote:
miss_molinari wrote:just ignore their socialist nonsense.

do actually have even the first idea of what the word "socialist" means?

no? better not 2 use it then innit

please, if you hate me so bad then just ignore my stupid, ill-informed views. just feel good that you've exposed me for not knowing what socialist means. im pretty sure that i must look ridiculous and that this must matter heaps..

Dom wrote:
Battle Gong wrote:
miss_molinari wrote:just ignore their socialist nonsense.

do actually have even the first idea of what the word "socialist" means?

no? better not 2 use it then innit
lol go get a dictionary innit

yeah ill go do that innit

__________ · Post by **__________** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:38 pm

i saw an dnb mc on a flyer called Crazy Dee.
shameful.

i call myself £12.50 Bag for any dubstep stuff now, to avoid confusion with the label.
its not exactly a big deal man, just call yourself Zillion Ten Thousand or something

Jah Billah · Post by **Jah Billah** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:11 pm

b original

djake · Post by **djake** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:24 pm

just add a * at the end

elbe · Post by **elbe** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:25 pm

I just added another e

nospin · Post by **nospin** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:53 pm

i got a message like that a few years ago when i was making some weird noise and calling it music. apparently i had picked a name that was in use by some popular indie rock band.

our music sounded nothing alike, but i still got messages frequently from people wanting to book the other band... i considered showing up to the gig and performing my own stuff...

i eventually just got tired of all those kids adding me and asking me if the whole new album was gonna sound like the tracks i added

if its in the same realm music wise, and you aren't really established, i'd just change your name... its not really that good of a name anyway

masstronaut · Post by **masstronaut** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:57 pm

£10 Bag wrote:its not exactly a big deal man

konrad · Post by **konrad** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:06 pm

Psyolopher wrote:Not funny Blizzie!
Hey try: ZillianDubstep

LOL, That's even worse than putting UK after your name, or DJ before it.
It would be good for when/if you branch out to making other genres of music though... Zilliandubstep, big in teh funky house scene.

On topic again, one of my aliases is Azrael, there are fucking tonnes of Azraels. Most of them are metal bands though and there are no other releases in the DNB world by another Azrael so I have never really encountered a problem. I haven't had any disgruntled Azraels messaging me on myspace yet...

pubstep cunt · Post by **pubstep cunt** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:46 pm

konrad wrote:so I have never really encountered a problem. I haven't had any disgruntled Azraels messaging me on myspace yet..

lol..... www.myspace.com/theazraelcollection

fuagofire · Post by **fuagofire** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:55 pm

how aboat zill(duetocopyrightlawshavetohavethebreak-stnuc!)ion

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