spectrum analyser

bjackman · Post by **bjackman** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:04 pm

basically, i'm a nerd; i want perfect mixdowns. i only use Reason (which has no real spectrum analyser)

i've got Logic 5.5 but until i can buy a proper soundcard (no money), it's making no noise

so my plan is to find a programme tht will do the job on the overall output of all my sound - can anyone help me out? (bear in mind - Reason means no VSTs. yeah baby.)

ps nothing against Reason - it's brilliant for being creative with but i'm more of a nerd than an artist

rubaduba · Post by **rubaduba** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:57 pm

Brendan just pop round mine in the summer I got one now so we can make sum lovely mixdowns together and then we can hav sum bum fun on the side :p

fixation · Post by **fixation** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:34 pm

nerd?

get renoise, its all numbers

http://www.renoise.com

yes i now wank for renoise

miss_molinari · Post by **miss_molinari** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:10 pm

http://www.dontcrack.com/freeware/downl ... -exoscope/

the shiz

xthewiddler · Post by **xthewiddler** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:35 am

reason can have a basic freq analyzer

watch this, i use this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4dsSDhnbfo

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:53 am

Free spectrum analyser plugins:

http://www.dontcrack.com/freeware/softw ... Analyzers/

http://www.bluecataudio.com/Products/Pr ... eqAnalyst/

http://www.voxengo.com/product/SPAN/

http://www.rndigital.org/inspector.html

Not free but worth a look anyway:

http://www.rndigital.org/frequal-izer.html (

http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=233

All of the plugins mentioned above are VST plugins. I suppose you'll have to find a VST wrapper for logic or a work around (google).

You could also export your song before the final mixdown as individual track parts then load them up into a free VST compatible host like Audacity or Reaper for mixing....

vadarfone · Post by **vadarfone** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:17 am

I have been rocking the Sonalksis EQs lot, of late. They have a built in Spectrum analyser which is great.

The Renoise analyzer is good, but it is too fast, and I am not sure how accurate the curves are.

(I am not slagging off Renoise however. I am 100% a Renoise freak, to the point where it annoys people in real life)

edwin katzer · Post by **edwin katzer** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:15 pm

bjackman wrote: i've got Logic 5.5 but until i can buy a proper soundcard (no money), it's making no noise

Have you tried asio4all ?

bjackman · Post by **bjackman** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:50 am

Edwin Katzer wrote:
bjackman wrote: i've got Logic 5.5 but until i can buy a proper soundcard (no money), it's making no noise

Have you tried asio4all ?

yep i've tried a ridiculous amount of drivers but the sound card is just so shit - it came with the PC and it's a Dell family style PC. the soundcard constantly makes bare noise n stuff and only has one input and one output

exporting each individual track is a very gd idea - i have Reaper so i'll definitely have to try that one. cheers guys

and guillermo? go back to spain. we don't need you here.

keng~ · Post by **keng~** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:48 am

xTheWiddler wrote:reason can have a basic freq analyzer

watch this, i use this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4dsSDhnbfo

very interesting tutorial,

tnks for sharing bro!

ps.

have you a combi patch of this for working with?

tnks in advance.

xthewiddler · Post by **xthewiddler** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:41 pm

keng~ wrote:
xTheWiddler wrote:reason can have a basic freq analyzer

watch this, i use this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4dsSDhnbfo
very interesting tutorial,

tnks for sharing bro!

ps.

have you a combi patch of this for working with?

tnks in advance.

i set it up in my default rack, so everytune has it on top for me

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:16 pm

How do you change your default rack?

"Demo song" every time I load up is well annoying.

xthewiddler · Post by **xthewiddler** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:44 pm

in the prefs

under general, click custom for default song, and then load up a rack you made

here is my default with the analyzer

http://bikinieditorial.com/yoni/wid/WiddlerDefault.rns

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:50 pm

nice one mate! Always giving people a hand, nuff respect.

xthewiddler · Post by **xthewiddler** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:08 pm

Legendary wrote:nice one mate! Always giving people a hand, nuff respect.

no problem! hope it helps!

jtransition · Post by **jtransition** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:23 pm

You do not need a spectrum analyser... it wil actually hold you back in terms of learnig frequencys besides you have got the best type of spectrum analysers stuck on each side of your head

Jason

xthewiddler · Post by **xthewiddler** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:30 pm

Jtransition wrote:You do not need a spectrum analyser... it wil actually hold you back in terms of learnig frequencys besides you have got the best type of spectrum analysers stuck on each side of your head
Jason

eh.. yes and no

mostly no

osk · Post by **osk** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:59 pm

Can't live without an analyser. Permanently open on the bottom right of my screen.

kwality · Post by **kwality** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:29 am

Jtransition wrote:You do not need a spectrum analyser... it wil actually hold you back in terms of learnig frequencys besides you have got the best type of spectrum analysers stuck on each side of your head
Jason

This is a really interesting point - given your expertise, is there a common mistake that producers relying on spectrum analyser's make? Are people trying too hard for a 'flat' response despite what the music wants? I have the inspector freebie on my master channel at all times, but I don't think I 'rely' on it - it's more another source of info, and it helps put my attrocious monitoring/room setup into context.

jtransition · Post by **jtransition** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:32 pm

kwality wrote:
Jtransition wrote:You do not need a spectrum analyser... it wil actually hold you back in terms of learnig frequencys besides you have got the best type of spectrum analysers stuck on each side of your head
Jason
This is a really interesting point - given your expertise, is there a common mistake that producers relying on spectrum analyser's make? Are people trying too hard for a 'flat' response despite what the music wants? I have the inspector freebie on my master channel at all times, but I don't think I 'rely' on it - it's more another source of info, and it helps put my attrocious monitoring/room setup into context.

If you wish to become a true Jedi you will learn to fight blindfolded

Did i say that out loud

The spectrum analyser is holding you back,Think about it this way ...the only way that it can help you with your room set up is if you have two identical calibrated specrum analysers one measuring the output of the pc and the other one measuring (via a microphone placed at your listening position)what you are hearing and then comparing the two graphs.unless you know your room there are so many variables that can affect what you are hearing to what the graph is showing that it`s really a wast of time unless you are using it for a particular problem.
Trust me I wanted one for years (since1985 but that`s another story)Before i even started trying to produce.,
Regards
Jason

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