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christophera · Post by **christophera** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:31 pm

science is not a cult

the scientific community and the main philosophy it spreads is very much a cult

christophera · Post by **christophera** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:32 pm

science zombies are as creepy to me as scientologists

christophera · Post by **christophera** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:33 pm

zombies always make the same unfounded declarations and always use the exact same formulaic arguments to shut down all claims outside their paradigm with no need for investigation

bill nye on larry king is a perfect example. he even looks like a creepy scientologist.

bellybelle · Post by **bellybelle** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:39 pm

ChristopherA wrote:science is not a cult

the scientific community and the main philosophy it spreads is very much a cult

thats how i feel about the whole God question. The human part is the problem. Wars started over religion are more a condition of being human than any religion. Belief in God doesn't make people kill. It is the belief that "My God (Reflection of Me) is the only right and true God (Way)" that causes atrocities. The need to dominate and subdue is not a divine trait. Its totally human.

djelements · Post by **djelements** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:40 pm

bellybelle wrote:
ChristopherA wrote:science is not a cult

the scientific community and the main philosophy it spreads is very much a cult
thats how i feel about the whole God question. The human part is the problem. Wars started over religion are more a condition of being human than any religion. Belief in God doesn't make people kill. It is the belief that "My God (Reflection of Me) is the only right and true God (Way)" that causes atrocities. The need to dominate and subdue is not a divine trait. Its totally human.

Thank you for saying that.

christophera · Post by **christophera** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:43 pm

its not even religion starting the wars. these wars are politicians using religion as a justification to their people for going to war so they can have support

bellybelle · Post by **bellybelle** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:47 pm

ChristopherA wrote:its not even religion starting the wars. these wars are politicians using religion as a justification to their people for going to war so they can have support

and knowing that just makes me feel gross. ugh.

christophera · Post by **christophera** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:58 pm

that one is such a no-brainer, you would kinda have to be a no-brainer to make ridiculous sweeping statements about religion being responsible for wars

science is contaminated. it is owned by government.

owned. controlled.

if you think otherwise, you need a serious reality check. i recommend reading Cat's Cradle for insight into the nature of scientists with no concept of morality working for people who only want the knowledge to gain more power for themselves.

religion is the justification for war, and scientists are the fuel that drives the war machine recklessly into the future.

unlikely · Post by **unlikely** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:59 pm

Mr Hyde wrote:scientists wouldn't get upset if a dogs arse looked like a microscope

they might though, if it was their dog and previously its arse just looked like an arse it could be quite an upsetting occurence!

I think its quite sweet you keep proving each others points. If this was a face-to-face argument it would probably be one of those ones where you keep arguing up to a point, share a little moment of silence as it reaches a slightly ridiculous level, then have sex instead. Unfortunately this is another flaw of the internet.

djelements · Post by **djelements** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:01 pm

unlikely wrote:
Mr Hyde wrote:scientists wouldn't get upset if a dogs arse looked like a microscope

they might though, if it was their dog and previously its arse just looked like an arse it could be quite an upsetting occurence!

I think its quite sweet you keep proving each others points. If this was a face-to-face argument it would probably be one of those ones where you keep arguing up to a point, share a little moment of silence as it reaches a slightly ridiculous level, then have sex instead. Unfortunately this is another flaw of the internet.

WIN

wooda916 · Post by **wooda916** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:03 pm

ChristopherA wrote:science is not a cult

the scientific community and the main philosophy it spreads is very much a cult

lol

wooda916 · Post by **wooda916** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:03 pm

ChristopherA wrote:that one is such a no-brainer, you would kinda have to be a no-brainer to make ridiculous sweeping statements about religion being responsible for wars

science is contaminated. it is owned by government.

owned. controlled.

if you think otherwise, you need a serious reality check. i recommend reading Cat's Cradle for insight into the nature of scientists with no concept of morality working for people who only want the knowledge to gain more power for themselves.

religion is the justification for war, and scientists are the fuel that drives the war machine wrecklessly into the future.

fucking lol!

u sir, are a tit!

christophera · Post by **christophera** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:03 pm

wooda916 wrote:
ChristopherA wrote:science is not a cult

the scientific community and the main philosophy it spreads is very much a cult
lol

WHAT ARE YOUR CRIMES!!!!!

christophera · Post by **christophera** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:04 pm

we've got a science zombie on our hands

who do you think pays scientists the money they get for research?

they definitely aren't in the pocket of greenpeace

bellybelle · Post by **bellybelle** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:08 pm

unlikely wrote:I think its quite sweet you keep proving each others points. If this was a face-to-face argument it would probably be one of those ones where you keep arguing up to a point, share a little moment of silence as it reaches a slightly ridiculous level, then have sex instead. Unfortunately this is another flaw of the internet.

it did end up that way but not for me, for i don't really ascribe to any one faith or faith at all. my mother is a fundamentalist. my father is an atheist. they got together, had sex, made me, and spent a good deal of conversations trying to show me how obvious it was that the other parents ideology was wrong and why theirs was the obvious choice and made more sense.

I walked away from both of them. Funny thing is, they can't see how similarly pigheaded they both are. Lucky me and my vantage point.

wooda916 · Post by **wooda916** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:09 pm

ChristopherA wrote:we've got a science zombie on our hands

who do you think pays scientists the money they get for research?

they definitely aren't in the pocket of greenpeace

this was intellegent discussion untill you chimed in with your conspiricy theories!

brushing off all off science as a government controlled conspiricy is ludicrous!

and "science zombie" fucking lol, how old are you?

smh

wooda916 · Post by **wooda916** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:11 pm

bellybelle wrote:
unlikely wrote:I think its quite sweet you keep proving each others points. If this was a face-to-face argument it would probably be one of those ones where you keep arguing up to a point, share a little moment of silence as it reaches a slightly ridiculous level, then have sex instead. Unfortunately this is another flaw of the internet.
it did end up that way but not for me, for i don't really ascribe to any one faith or faith at all. my mother is a fundamentalist. my father is an atheist. they got together, had sex, made me, and spent a good deal of conversations trying to show me how obvious it was that the other parents ideology was wrong and why theirs was the obvious choice and made more sense.

I walked away from both of them. Funny thing is, they can't see how similarly pigheaded they both are. Lucky me and my vantage point.

i made this point before, parents should not force any views on there offspring at all...

hugh · Post by **hugh** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:12 pm

ChristopherA wrote:that one is such a no-brainer, you would kinda have to be a no-brainer to make ridiculous sweeping statements about religion being responsible for wars

science is contaminated. it is owned by government.

owned. controlled.

if you think otherwise, you need a serious reality check. i recommend reading Cat's Cradle for insight into the nature of scientists with no concept of morality working for people who only want the knowledge to gain more power for themselves.

what's that got to do with what we are discussing now? You can equally say religion is corrupt. Anywho the discussion of corruption within government frameworks is a totally irellevant.
It pisses me off that people even put science in the same box as religion. I remember at school a friend of mine said they may as well dump religious education and start forcing kids to read lord of the rings and believe in that instead.
What i love most about religion is how things like the bible have had their interpretations completely changing just to suit new found scientific explanations for events.
for example, the bible used to claim god made the world in 7 days. Then science proposes the big bang as an alternate explanation, so religion attempts to shoot it down. Then background cosmic radiation is discovered , and when placed alongside evidence such as the universe constantly expanding, it becomes very difficult to contradict, so naturally religion moves to a new argument - "god created the big bang"
this is impossible to disprove because god has been created by man as an invisible entity who choses to watch over us without ever intefering.
i really dont buy it and never will, sorry.

christophera · Post by **christophera** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:15 pm

religion is corrupt

science is corrupt

faith in any dogma handed down from on high is dumb

christophera · Post by **christophera** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:15 pm

and i don't believe in the bible fwiw

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