Sweeping Basslines?

[.klimaxx]

At risk of ridicule, i'm completely baffled as to how sweeping basses are made.

take for example that of Coki's track - Spongebob. Also it's an effect i hear all the time in DnB for example Pendulum (it's up to you to decide whether Pendulum are DnB lol)

Thanks a lot in advance!

.klimaxx

[Disco Nutter]

Could you define sweeping? Do you mean the gliding pitch or filter sweeping?

[nospin]

if you are talking about the pitch gliding... you could try portamento or any kind of modulation envelope applied to the pitch of the oscillator(s)

[.klimaxx]

I don't think it's pitch related. Listen to the baseline in pendulum - through the loop, at about 1:50.. Thanks lol

[spencertron]

Based on assumptions about what you're. Lookin to do

Lfo modulating pitch. Also could modulate filter cut and rresonance

Or record these parametres being changed manually or viA automation.

Edit: it really is not easy typing on an iPhone

[lilt]

try an lfo on ONE vco, whilst the other is unaffected
this gives the sound a sweeping AND phasing sound

it brings teh funk

(on another note, i think that it was my first ever actual 'teh' typo)

[spencertron]

(on another note, i think that it was my first ever actual 'teh' typo)

aww man...congrats

back to the "sweeping"

further to my above post, here's an audio example involving some of what i described...though i could be way off the mark of what you're after...

http://www.tindeck.com/audio/filestore/ ... URRGHH.mp3

note glide (portamento/slide) between 2 notes, LFO modulating pitch on arpeggio, LFO modulating filter, also LFO modulating amplitude. NB* the timing of the arpeggio has been controlled manually by hand controlling LFO frequency when recording.

[serox]

aww man...congrats

back to the "sweeping"

further to my above post, here's an audio example involving some of what i described...though i could be way off the mark of what you're after...

http://www.tindeck.com/audio/filestore/ ... URRGHH.mp3

note glide (portamento/slide) between 2 notes, LFO modulating pitch on arpeggio, LFO modulating filter, also LFO modulating amplitude. NB* the timing of the arpeggio has been controlled manually by hand controlling LFO frequency when recording.

Thanks for the clip.

Would it be too much trouble to show us a screenshot of what you have actually made this in?

I dunno about others but I find it really hard to work out whats doing what from just reading the text

[.klimaxx]

yeah that was exactly the right sound!
thanks!

i too am a bit confused as to how this was made - perhaps a screenshot or patch would be nice if you have time

thanks again

.klimaxx

[serox]

screenshot would be better than a patch. I want to make the sound lol.

[james fox]

would you be offended if i said you really need to learn your synths better if you can't work it out from what he posted?

[serox]

would you be offended if i said you really need to learn your synths better if you can't work it out from what he posted?

Nope not at all. It is me just being lazy at the end of the day.

I only use the synths in Reason and am not sure how to do these bits even tho I have prob done them before, I just dont know the names maybe? I am prob being dumb about it. I am at work right now so dont have a synth to check whats what.

LFO modulating pitch on arpeggio
LFO modulating amplitude. NB* the timing of the arpeggio has been controlled manually by hand controlling LFO frequency when recording.

[.klimaxx]

i'm not offended by that, it's just that it is hard to know your LFOs from your Envelopes and whatnot..

I myself have tried to give back to this forum by spending time writing about my strengths in Music Theory, and hopefully someone will have learned something new from it. Unfortunately there is no such tutorial that is actually clear and concise that I have seen.

So by all means go ahead and write a Synth tutorial for us to understand - it would seriously make my day.

thanks

[nospin]

So by all means go ahead and write a Synth tutorial for us to understand - it would seriously make my day.

thanks

i recommend starting on the bottom of page 2 (the beginning) if you are real new to synthesizers
also... what are you using? these tutorials can be applied to anything, but a couple of them make it even clearer for reasons synths

http://www.beatportal.com/topics/c/guid ... hesis/P15/

have fun

[spencertron]

screenshot would be better than a patch. I want to make the sound lol.

It was made using a factory built wave table synth in Reaktor (Oki computer) so a screen shot would not reveal a great deal for Reason users. sorry.

The synth sound is irrelevant, it's down to that particular synth, the main thing here is the modulation matrix (Bottom left) and how it's used, LFO is selected to modulate different parameter's...the same can be done with many synths this one has the sequencer (for creating the arpeggio) think of it a bit like the matrix pattern seq in Reason.

I don't use Reason but a glance of the Subtractor synth, you have modulation Inputs and Outputs (abit like the modulation matrix seen in Reaktor builds) on the back of it...wire these up to each other depending on what you want to modulate and see what happens. that might get something interesting going. i'm sure reason users here will have a better solution though

simplest thing is best if you make the sound you like, then mess with LFO's and sequencers and modulation after, perhaps?.

btw, i'm (very slowly) in the process of making a synth in reaktor specifically to accommodate for most typical bass sounds and styles in dubstep (with pattern sequencer also) which can then be bent to suit who ever uses it...some might say it's a bit like pigeon holeing sound of genre but it's simply something else to do really...it'll mostly be more about sound design than 'the build' though. In the mean time reaktor users can download the snapshot patch for bass i uploaded here for the Carbon 1 synth http://www.native-instruments.com:80/in ... tchid=7311

[.klimaxx]

cheers spence, very useful
now i'm going to try and make it myself

.klimaxx

[serox]

@spencerTron: nice one.

Ok I understand a bit better of what you mean now I think.

I wasnt sure how I assigned the LFO to do different things on the subtrator, I have to turn the thing around and wire it!

This screenshot shows here. I am at work so cannot tets it but I guess I just wire from "mod output" to "mod input" of whatever I want to do.

http://www.dancetech.com/aa_dt_new/arti ... ting_b.jpg

[.klimaxx]

yeah i can get it to sound great in Reaktor, but i can't fathom how to do it in Massive

any ideas?

.klimaxx

[spencertron]

I don't use the Massive synth so i couldn't tell you

@spencerTron: nice one.

Ok I understand a bit better of what you mean now I think.

I wasnt sure how I assigned the LFO to do different things on the subtrator, I have to turn the thing around and wire it!

This screenshot shows here. I am at work so cannot tets it but I guess I just wire from "mod output" to "mod input" of whatever I want to do.

http://www.dancetech.com/aa_dt_new/arti ... ting_b.jpg

yeh thats what i meant, but i think it's best if somebody who uses Reason jumps in at this point, as i dont use reason and only at looking at it, it seems that that is how you modulate parameters.

[hugh]

right click the lfo rate modulation and click "edit automation"
you should now be able to edit the rate of the LFO in the automation lane just under the instrument.