Drum & Bass, death of

caos · Post by **caos** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:25 pm

dnb is far from dead....far far from it

untill raves are empty and there are no 3 hours queues n the dnb tents at festivals are dead and vinyl doesnt sell then fair dos

but it still has a massive vinyl market (ok obviously not wot it used to be but realisticaly to have one these days is a good thing)

hazards smashed this year, likewise clipz, pleasure, the liquid this years been so sick, logistics - together vip, high contrast - magic, chase & status - take me away

also the ra remixes...they're still smashin it n they've been gettin spins since last year, i cant see it "dying" in the form that grime died anytime soon, from time andy c can still play if we ever at global and it got the biggest reaction of the night then u know that it cant fade anytime soon tbh...

just my 2 pence

dash exp · Post by **dash exp** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:37 pm

http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t ... highlight=

coxy · Post by **coxy** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:32 pm

dead?? hahah

try getting in one of the big raves in town... and look at the age of people going in... aka get out more ladies!

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:23 pm

bagelator wrote:it died years ago. this is like keeping a dead relative in your cupboard and pretending it's alive for social functions

hahaha So true. I've not really felt much from the scene since about 98-99. It does seem closed to experimentation and , to me, it's boring.

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:31 pm

Piston wrote:
dubstepjustin wrote:I liked hold your colour. that's about it. I think in silico kind of sucks.
try photek, early dillinja, fanu, seba, source direct, current value, 95 era decoder and then come back and talk about how d&b is shit mkay

Yeah this. It's weird how it used to be so rhythmically varied and experimental and now most of it sound like utter junk.

tacospheros · Post by **tacospheros** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:38 pm

people get fucking lazy and make dancefloor friendly tunes cuz theyre tired of being broke . somewhere along the way , all the big producers seem to have done this and forgotten about where it started

everyones all high and mighty about dubstep and how original and untainted it is , but jungle started out the exact same way . no one wouldve guessed that 15 years later every tune has the same drum kit and pattern

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:51 pm

tacospheros wrote:people get fucking lazy and make dancefloor friendly tunes cuz theyre tired of being broke . somewhere along the way , all the big producers seem to have done this and forgotten about where it started

everyones all high and mighty about dubstep and how original and untainted it is , but jungle started out the exact same way . no one wouldve guessed that 15 years later every tune has the same drum kit and pattern

This is also true.

Shame but, most if not all forms of music reach this stagnation point unfortunately

slothrop · Post by **slothrop** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:23 pm

Code wrote:

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... highlight=

Also
http://www.myspace.com/subvertcentral
Sounds pretty lively to me...

moujah · Post by **moujah** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:11 am

it's not dead. somewhere on the margins there are still producers who just make it for the love

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cwDu2fwCx8

sio2 · Post by **sio2** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:04 pm

DnB is far from dead. Every thursday night we've got a long running dnb night which happens to be one of the most consistant and bigger $$ beer sales nights of the week. Our biggest $ makers @ the club are the reggae/ dubstep night and the dnb night. At the record shop, dnb vinyl still outsells all other genres of dance music.

Locally, I expect a big 2008 holiday season and 2009 should be a great year for dubstep and drum n bass. I personally feel as tho the ragga plus the deeper/ atmospheric and liquid dnb has a bright future as it is a mainstay for those of us not feeling the often repetative and uninventive armegeddon/ chainsaw dnb. I like the heavy, dark dnb however I feel the beat programming is too repetative. There needs to be more imaginative and creative beats from the dark, heavy hard dnb camp.

Dark Reign · Post by **Dark Reign** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:35 am

SPor, Ewun, Apex & Evol Intent.

Check these guys out on Lifted, some of the best Music around right now.

Be sure to check out Evol Intents era of diversion CD, it is a classic , even some dubstep in there.

luke.envoy · Post by **luke.envoy** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:08 am

http://www.myspace.com/exitrecords

panty inspector · Post by **panty inspector** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:49 pm

DEAD LOL ..............

INSTRA:MENTAL LIVE IN BELGIUM-STAR WARZ 08/2008
01 - Instra:mental - Rogue
02 - Alix Perez & Lynx - Allegiance
03 - Icicle - Nowhere
04 - Calibre - Electric Soul
05 - ?? Instra:mental
06 - ?? D Bridge
07 - Commix - Justified
08 - Noisia - Strange Owl Experiment
09 - Calibre - Beat Goes On
10 - Commix - Talk To Frank (Break Remix)
11 - Calibre - New Cons
12 - Commix - Underwater Scene
13 - ?? Calibre
14 - Commix - Rack It
15 - Commix - Life We Live
16 - ??
17 - D Bridge - On My Mind
18 - D Bridge - Morning Dawn
19 - ??

http://rapidshare.com/files/142559185/I ... _SW_XL.mp3

amazing set ....... deep deep deep get to know .......

somejerk · Post by **somejerk** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:01 pm

69Basslines wrote:Evol Intent

they're on a whooooolllllleee 'nother level. been heavy into them for a couple years now.

miretz · Post by **miretz** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:12 pm

panty inspector wrote:DEAD LOL ..............

INSTRA:MENTAL LIVE IN BELGIUM-STAR WARZ 08/2008
01 - Instra:mental - Rogue
02 - Alix Perez & Lynx - Allegiance
03 - Icicle - Nowhere
04 - Calibre - Electric Soul
05 - ?? Instra:mental
06 - ?? D Bridge
07 - Commix - Justified
08 - Noisia - Strange Owl Experiment
09 - Calibre - Beat Goes On
10 - Commix - Talk To Frank (Break Remix)
11 - Calibre - New Cons
12 - Commix - Underwater Scene
13 - ?? Calibre
14 - Commix - Rack It
15 - Commix - Life We Live
16 - ??
17 - D Bridge - On My Mind
18 - D Bridge - Morning Dawn
19 - ??

http://rapidshare.com/files/142559185/I ... _SW_XL.mp3

amazing set ....... deep deep deep get to know .......

Feeling it, definitely a different approach to dnb, almost like listening to dark garage on 170 BPM

slothrop · Post by **slothrop** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:39 am

Well, if anyone isn't going to DMZ tomorrow and fancies viewing the corpse, I'm going to be here.

I guess you could even turn up early while it's free and hear some tunes before DMZ if you really wanted to...

bagelator · Post by **bagelator** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:17 am

somejerk wrote:
69Basslines wrote:Evol Intent

they're on a whooooolllllleee 'nother level. been heavy into them for a couple years now.

i can (possibly) understand why people like this , but not really.

dbridge, perez, data, dan intrinsic do it for me currently, amongst others...

upreal · Post by **upreal** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:11 am

limewax -Kristall Weizen EP. boy, is this the stuff!

wurge · Post by **wurge** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:43 pm

69Basslines wrote:SPor, Ewun, Apex & Evol Intent.

Check these guys out on Lifted, some of the best Music around right now.

Be sure to check out Evol Intents era of diversion CD, it is a classic , even some dubstep in there.

Yeah. Dnb aint dead

check this shizzle

http://www.myspace.com/dj_drifta

i like it

ocr · Post by **ocr** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:08 am

tacospheros wrote:people get fucking lazy and make dancefloor friendly tunes cuz theyre tired of being broke . somewhere along the way , all the big producers seem to have done this and forgotten about where it started

everyones all high and mighty about dubstep and how original and untainted it is , but jungle started out the exact same way . no one wouldve guessed that 15 years later every tune has the same drum kit and pattern

There's a quote by one of the constituent parts of Blu Mar Ten (leo i think) thats pretty pertinent to this thread: Its poignant for me as when i was younger i was totally caught up in DnB and the output of producers like Klute, dev paradox & nucleus, Danny breaks, Tony Justice, Banaczech, Pieter K. Leon Mar, T-Power, Photek etc etc. I loved Cert.18, Reinforced, metalheadz, movin shadow, etc.

I havent felt the same about music since dubstep emerged, as grievous angel recently simply and sincerely put it : "I love the dubstep scene - I think it's up there with the best scenes to have come out of dance music. It's got real love vibes."

Anyway... we're talking 'bout de rum n' arse...

Im not saying the following is hugely significant (or maybe it is?), it just made me...feel good. I thought I'd share, & I appreciate Blu Mar Ten sharing their thoughts. & I'd appreciate anyone who cares enough to read all this to share theirs.
read on:

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There’s definitely something in the air in drum & bass right now.

(Un)fortunatley, I’ve been around long enough that I can sense when change is afoot, and I can sense it now.

For the last few months my conversations with other producers keep coming back to similar themes. What I’m hearing from people is they’re tired of the current sound and what they’ve been doing for the last few years. There’s a real hunger for something new, or at least if not completely new, then different to what has been the recent status quo.

People keep saying they want to ‘go deeper’, a phrase that normally makes my teeth grind with hi-octane cringe. But these days I think I know what they mean.

i’ve heard the same things being said by producers from right across the whole spectrum of styles - people who are known for jump-up, people who are known for atmospheric & drumfunk, people who have been churning out Pendulum-style dancefloor bangers, people who have been writing very polite generic liquid - everyone seems to have had enough of just going through the motions. They want something more musical, more complex, more subtle, more *involved*. Producers are wanting to reintroduce light and shade into their music, both in terms of the dynamics of the tracks and also the content. Many of us are tired of that wall of sound, of that relentless 2-step snare. Sometimes it’s just what you need, but often it just crucifies any music that you try and work around it.

Finally producers are saying ‘enough is enough’ and one by one they’re stopping taking part in the volume war, not being afraid to make their music that little bit more delicate.

What’s interesting to me is the tipping-point effect of all this. It’s all happened at more or less the same time, and people have clearly come to these conclusions on their own. Now that people have started talking openly about it to each other, momentum is starting to build and confidence in our collective ability to force the music into much more interesting areas is growing.

Why has it happened now? I would hazard a guess at the rise and rise of Pendulum having something to do with it. The Pendulums have taken that stadium-d&b sound to it’s logical conclusion - the stadium (more or less), and while many of us wish them good luck with it, seeing it finally happen has, I think, made many people suddenly take stock of their own output. I suspect many people have suddenly realised that’s not a race they particularly want to be running in.

As you may or may not know, we’re working on a drum & bass album right now. Around 6 weeks ago we got frustrated at how pedestrian it was sounding and tore lots of it up, vowing to take a swerve into the left-field and leave behind us all our concerns about whether the tunes fit in to what else is happening in the scene, or whether DJ [x] or DJ [y[] is likely to play it. Once we did that the music blossomed like crazy, giving us probably the best results we have seen for years.

Will it get played by all the dancefloor merchants? Not a chance.

Is it evocative, emotional, romantic music that I will want to listen to myself and be proud to stand by in years to come? Absolutely.

vive la revolution imo

respect out to chris & leo, you've always inspired me & your music always moved me beyond words

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