will the recession affect the dubstep scene?

[kion]

Ecstasy will make a massive comeback and dubstep will become the mainstay of World Dance 2012, with 20,000+ mentalists coming up on E and coming down on K.

[rob_booth]

Myself personally cannot go to every night i want to, before i even reach the queue of the club i've spent £30 to get there. So i'm selective over which nights i reach

^^^^ took the words right outta ma mouth

[carlos the jackal]

I think this just about sums it up

Even as consumers face soaring energy costs, rising food prices and higher mortgages or rent, it seems clear they're not prepared to forgo many of life's little treats _ alcohol, cigarette and candy makers are all reporting healthy sales amid the gloom.

"I would never give it up, not unless I was dying of alcohol poisoning or something," said Kelly Piggeln, a 62-year-old retired nanny, as she indulged in her favorite two vices of a cigarette and a glass of wine on the patio of a London bar.

Piggeln's stance is being echoed by cash-strapped consumers around the world, a trend that is reflected in strong financial reports this season from some of the biggest so-called "sin stocks" even as banks and many retailers report sliding income.

Sin stocks, ranging from gambling to liquor, are usually a safe bet in hard times. While shares in some of those companies have fallen along with stock exchanges this year, lots are still seeing strong revenues and sales.

http://www.newser.com/article/d92gvilo0 ... candy.html

[s.t. holdings]

looking back to previous economic downturns and the music scenes of the time:

70's - punk
late 80' early 90's - acid house / rave culture

During these periods the music scenes of the time exploded, in terms of creativity and popularity.

Dubstep will be fine, if anything it will get even better due to the different influences on all our lives, individually and collectively.

[numaestro]

[quote="Headhunter"]It wont stop people form going out, and the effect it can have on the music: harder times makes better music (imo)[/quote

[selrahc]

everybody'll end up on K, and anybody who doesn't fancy it's going to get left as a lone warrior trying to see through the bass.

seriously though, i wouldn't be surprised if record sales take a bit of a fall. doubt takings on the nights would be hit though, especially the bigger ones.

[oddfellow]

It wont stop people form going out, and the effect it can have on the music: harder times makes better music (imo)

This!

[elgato]

more squats

and warehouses

and abandoned spaces and developments

car park parties

impromptu parties in any old space

fewer swanky clubs

i.e. a good time for creativity

!

[tercerojista]

Slightly off-topic, but still slightly relevant...

On last week's Rinse show from Plastician & Nomad (Westician & Nosebag), Nomad dropped a really nice flow where he started going on about his mum pressuring him to think about buying a house, and the problems with interest rates and all that.

I liked that flow a lot, as it goes.

[nousd]

I think in times like this a scene can only get stronger.

Agree, ds community can hang together.

When people struggle in their day to day lives, its nice to let go on the weekend and dance...its age old.

Maybe, if yu don't mind stepping over bodies.

[alexchuck]

just as much as the great depression affected jazz, swing and bebop

[Pistonsbeneath]

If I lose my job I might actually make some decent tunes & get em out

[djshiva]

i will say that the difference between the dubstep scene, and the music scenes mentioned throughout history, is that so much depends upon air travel (especially if you do not live in the UK).

let's face it, fuel prices are up, so airfare is up, which DOES affect both djs and promoters, and with high fuel prices, the ability for people outside of major cities to attend events is affected as well.

add on to that that it's harder to afford buying vinyl (something that i have faced and had to make the decision to mostly by digital because of already), and i would have to say that it will have an effect more so than the historical/economic events surrounding previous music scenes.

it will continue despite that, but if the recession gets any worse, i do believe that musicians/djs will have to stay closer to home and promoters will have to think long and hard about flying djs if the costs are prohibitive.

[abZ]

i will say that the difference between the dubstep scene, and the music scenes mentioned throughout history, is that so much depends upon air travel (especially if you do not live in the UK).

let's face it, fuel prices are up, so airfare is up, which DOES affect both djs and promoters, and with high fuel prices, the ability for people outside of major cities to attend events is affected as well.

add on to that that it's harder to afford buying vinyl (something that i have faced and had to make the decision to mostly by digital because of already), and i would have to say that it will have an effect more so than the historical/economic events surrounding previous music scenes.

it will continue despite that, but if the recession gets any worse, i do believe that musicians/djs will have to stay closer to home and promoters will have to think long and hard about flying djs if the costs are prohibitive.

Yeah. That said, I think it helps the local scene. With that can come more regional sounds rather than the global sound we have at the moment.

I have never had a ton of extra cash so I don't know if it will effect me much. I don't put much money into it as it is except for maintaining my computers and buying the odd MP3 here and there.

[teir]

(especially if you do not live in the UK)...., but if the recession gets any worse, i do believe that musicians/djs will have to stay closer to home and promoters will have to think long and hard about flying djs if the costs are prohibitive.

surely its an up's and down's thing, which in the case of fans wanting to hear there fav DJ's will swiftly pay more on the door (or tickets/whatever) to make it worth it for the DJ's to do so. So this up's and down's theory of mine fluctuating much quicker then the (hmm i dont know the right term) ..money market... Thus! no real big change in that respect.

(man i love using thus)

[human?]

lol, broke is broke. and yeh, most musicians are livin that before the "crisis"

economic collapse can only be awesome.

fuck the market.

[crazel]

more squats

and warehouses

and abandoned spaces and developments

car park parties

impromptu parties in any old space

fewer swanky clubs

i.e. a good time for creativity

!

it'll be good for it... people drink and go out more when times are bad.... and the more free parties the better...

[saxon]

People will have to make do with what they have, could spark some megaaa creativity

bass is already pretty angry, perhaps we can expect a surge of bankers on the forums Suitstep

[amitai]

Happy Hardcore will become massive as people want to cheer themselves up. Dubstep is going to have to bit the bullet and stick in some some pop jingle nastyness to compete, it's a rough ride out there.

Cheers, Tom.

LOL



Here's my plan: wait around for a bunch of good warehouses to foreclose, then try to buy one for cheap, and throw parties.

It won't really happen because I'm lazy, or as you guys in the UK say, a "tosser".

[jairiddim]

i think it can only make the scene stronger, people will need an increasingly stronger release from all the b.s. goin on day to day