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ecliptic · Post by **ecliptic** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:48 pm

subindex wrote:i got a macbookpro (i use it a a dvd player)
my quad core 4gb ram pc is where the music happens macs are 4 girls

Thats just not right. I would quite easily buy you a dvd player and take that macbook from you if you hate it so much?

manray · Post by **manray** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:12 am

Did the Dubstep forum go away and come back with twice the bullshit or have I just not posted in here for so long that I've just noticed the slow increase?

I use Logic + Cubase on PC + Mac. Both can be problematic and both can be stable and rock solid. I wouldn't say one is better than the other because they both can be fucking turd sometimes.

kindofblue272 · Post by **kindofblue272** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:25 pm

to the people that use macbooks for production: do you use an external soundcard or some kind of I/O box: what do you use?

Tekki · Post by **Tekki** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:33 pm

do any producers use G5 cube? is logic worth it?

Tangka · Post by **Tangka** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:41 pm

Battle Gong wrote:how can anyone use windows who isnt either A> blind, or at least B> totally lacking in any aesthetic taste? microsoft have the ugliest graphic design of almost any company in the world. there's no way i'm staring at that shit for hours on end: for starters, that fucking blue they use is just offensive 2 the eye.

otherwise i'm sure PCs are fine...and probably go quite well with your pee-stained nylon bell-bottoms and fluro-orange socks

what are you a half-wit who needs cute shiny bubbly little buttons and transparent shit flying all over the place to periodically distract yourself from the fact that you're daft?

fuck graphics. if you want to talk about lacking aesthetic taste, it's OSX > ITS A COMPUTER not a fucking acid trip, or water park, or school for the mentally challenged.

no true PC user uses that blue shite you're farting on about, only mac users who want their computer using experience to be warm and cuddly

its all about classic envoronment > grey angular boxes > tablets of informative organization

i understand if this post may be offensive, but i promise it is all directed at idiot

ecliptic · Post by **ecliptic** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:59 pm

I have only just joined this forum, and its already turning fucking gay. Guys and gals, Get some lives and stop arguing about a COMPUTER

Tangka · Post by **Tangka** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:06 pm

no sweat man just having a laugh

d-T-r · Post by **d-T-r** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:19 pm

i thought this would be about

In 2005, McDonald's began offering product placement rewards to hip hop artists who namechecked the Big Mac in their music, giving US$5 to the artist for every time a song mentioning the hamburger was played on the radio.

http://www.last.fm/music/Abdominal/_/Big+Track

setspeed · Post by **setspeed** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:13 am

kindofblue272 wrote:to the people that use macbooks for production: do you use an external soundcard or some kind of I/O box: what do you use?

well you can come straight out of the headphone output, and i did this for a long while - it's not ideal but it can suffice until you get something better.

personally the something better that I eventually graduated to was a Novation X-Station: it's a soundcard, midi controller keyboard and synth all in one. really useful device, works like a charm

junglist · Post by **junglist** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:01 am

MacBook + logic + 8 tracks with reverb, bit crusher & compression = overload.

Me = not impressed.

kindofblue272 · Post by **kindofblue272** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:21 am

setspeed wrote:
kindofblue272 wrote:to the people that use macbooks for production: do you use an external soundcard or some kind of I/O box: what do you use?
well you can come straight out of the headphone output, and i did this for a long while - it's not ideal but it can suffice until you get something better.

personally the something better that I eventually graduated to was a Novation X-Station: it's a soundcard, midi controller keyboard and synth all in one. really useful device, works like a charm

wow i'd never heard of that before ... what a cool idea.

setspeed · Post by **setspeed** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:35 am

Junglist wrote:MacBook + logic + 8 tracks with reverb, bit crusher & compression = overload.

Me = not impressed.

ouch!

have you got a bunch of stuff running in the background? i've got the basic 2.0Ghz white macbook and generally end up with 25-odd tracks & 10 busses running with no problems... (i do have 2GB memory though). do you know what the speed of your hard disk is? some of the MBs shipped with 4200rpm ones, which wouldn't help (i think they were the 160GB hard disks). but you can get a 300GB 5400rpm hard disk now for less than 50 quid.....

drifterman_ · Post by **drifterman_** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:35 am

Just use what you are happy with, lol...

I'm a PC guy personally but if someone told me I could have enough knowledge to operate a mac and logic surgically inserted into my brain at no pain or cost to myself - I wouldn't say no. But I can't be bothered with the crossover.

fiziks · Post by **fiziks** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:59 pm

Like someone said earlier the hardware is almost identical now, so if you like building your computers as I do, build a mac. It's pretty easy for the most part.

1) Go to insanelymac.com and read. Then read some more. Use their hardware guide for what you need to get so it will work correctly. Gigabyte motherboards are preferred and make sure your firewire card is a ti chipset.

2) rock out on Logic on your pc you just built with OSX pimpin on it. I dual boot to either an xp hard drive or a mac hard drive. It works just as well as any mac bought off of the shelf for a fraction of the price. It might take a little trial and error, but it will be worth it.

manray · Post by **manray** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:56 pm

setspeed wrote:
kindofblue272 wrote:to the people that use macbooks for production: do you use an external soundcard or some kind of I/O box: what do you use?
well you can come straight out of the headphone output, and i did this for a long while - it's not ideal but it can suffice until you get something better.

personally the something better that I eventually graduated to was a Novation X-Station: it's a soundcard, midi controller keyboard and synth all in one. really useful device, works like a charm

Actually the onboard mac sound tends to be of a very high quality. coreaudio means that latency is down to 2ms or less which kicks the arse out of most usb/firewire devices. You would need to spend £200+ to get something that good. The only real reason to upgrade is if you need more inputs/outputs.

kindofblue272 · Post by **kindofblue272** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:43 am

manray wrote:
setspeed wrote:
kindofblue272 wrote:to the people that use macbooks for production: do you use an external soundcard or some kind of I/O box: what do you use?
well you can come straight out of the headphone output, and i did this for a long while - it's not ideal but it can suffice until you get something better.

personally the something better that I eventually graduated to was a Novation X-Station: it's a soundcard, midi controller keyboard and synth all in one. really useful device, works like a charm
Actually the onboard mac sound tends to be of a very high quality. coreaudio means that latency is down to 2ms or less which kicks the arse out of most usb/firewire devices. You would need to spend £200+ to get something that good. The only real reason to upgrade is if you need more inputs/outputs.

for example: balanced 1/4" I/O for monitors?

duskky · Post by **duskky** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:33 pm

just thought it was worth mentioning, i think apple have taken the firewire ports OFF the new Macbooks, so if you want to use firewire interfaces you've gotta get a macbook pro. a slightly dubious choice i feel?

silentk · Post by **silentk** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:23 pm

i have been a PC user my whole life. i know my way around XP like the top of my cock. always said macs were shit, mostly because i could'nt be bothered to learn how to use one. i recently started a Music technology A-level course at college. the school had upgraded all the old dying PCs running cubase, to an entire room of Imacs running logic 8 express. within about an hour of sitting down and bashing out a few drum loops/basslines i realised why people go on about it so much. logic is king (in my opinion) there is a reason why it is held so highly. money is as issue though, i wont be able to afford an imac/macbook + logic 8, for a while

although may i just add, if i were to by a mac. i would use it for nothing but music production. i would still prefer my PC for just about everything else.

d+ · Post by d+ » Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:42 pm

How much would I be looking at for a decent mac with logic and all the trimmings? Around £800? Would you guys suggest I went for a laptop or desktop mac? I usually leave my PC on all night downloading/uploading or just generally sitting there eating up power! Is this possible with a mac laptop?

Any ex PC users who moved onto Mac able to outline the pro's and cons?

prolife · Post by **prolife** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:50 pm

D+ wrote:How much would I be looking at for a decent mac with logic and all the trimmings? Around £800? Would you guys suggest I went for a laptop or desktop mac? I usually leave my PC on all night downloading/uploading or just generally sitting there eating up power! Is this possible with a mac laptop?

Any ex PC users who moved onto Mac able to outline the pro's and cons?

If you want a decent iMac with Logic 8, your looking at around 1200 or there abouts.
The Mac mini tends to be too weak for production.
The iMac is a good choice because it's ok for producing and what not, it still has firewire, bigger screen etc.
The new Macbooks would still be powerful enough, though I'd upgrade the RAM, the screen is smaller, it lacks firewire but its portable. I know a couple people with Macbooks who never turn it off, just put it to sleep.

I use both PC w/Vista and Mac and must say I love the Mac far more.

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