Experimental Dub-ish Sounds?

adikt · Post by **adikt** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:00 pm

I've asked this before with some help, but the more i look into this seemingly emerging style, the more i love it. Logically the next step in my personal electronic evolution...

Anyway, I'm looking for new producers, tracks, remixes or any other form of experimental DubStep-ish sounds. This gets into kind of a questionable rhetoric...'Intelligent'is a fucked word for a genre...Glitchy perhaps? But with an underlying Dubstep/Ragga/DnB/HipHop vibe...preferably stemming from Dubstep itself since that is what this particular thread is about

Examples of the sort of sound i may be looking for:
-Boxcutter aka Barry Lynn
-The Bug's Tapping The Conversations album
-many Milanese tracks
-Kode 9(and with Space Ape, like the track Quantum)
-Enduser's new album Left
-some Goth Trad, Itak Tek, Sarantis, Skream, Vexd, Distance, Scorn...

even some Squarepusher, Aphex Twin, Venetian Snares, u-ziq, etc...

I kind of get bored with some of the DnB & Dubstep sounds over time, so i'm looking into the really forward thinking side of the genres. Any brand new artists out there like this, or perhaps some big names i havnt heard of over here in Florida? Many thanks in advance for any input!!!

+torment+ · Post by **+torment+** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:57 pm

go back to the original dub exploits, which has preceded and influenced everything you're getting hyped on now:

Renegade Soundwave
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBzMuFjaVmg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xikDqvVwo18

Richard H Kirk - his solo releases on Warp from the 90's are brilliant, and anything he touches from waaay back when to now has been years ahead of this game - from silence to noise. The mon knows dub - see Electronic Eye, Sandoz, even Cabaret Voltaire, etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhJgmWAFKh4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdxji7Meg5o

early P.I.L

Jah Wobble specifically, post P.I.L solo joints worth diggin up

Zoviet France
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsBD-pUO4GI

On-U-Sound.. Adrian Sherwood, African Headcharge, Dub Syndicate et all - we all wouldn't be here without this label, material from the 80's to now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtRjuwYK48o

Muslimgauze, Sound Secretion, Systemwide.. lots to check out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hzomP4DQW8

anything on Scape from back in the day

the Wordsound back catalogue...

Dj/Rupture biznez

I Sound - early breakcore don showing diverse roots via Transparent releases

Timeblind - Crucial Systems.. glitching out dub years ago

Godflesh remixes

Techno Animal

Chain Reaction, Basic Channel, etc.

.. there's more, but if you haven't checked out any of these.. i think you've missed the point, heh

code · Post by **code** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:29 am

Goto :

www.myspace.com/subtleaudiorecordings

take a listen to "Some Minimal Business" by Martsman (LXC Remix)

also "Pleuromeia" by Dissident might be up yer street.

... also check this by Bop : "Cogito Ergo Sum"

and check stuff by those artists on the Med School / Alphacut / Counter Intelligence labels too. All very good.

adikt · Post by **adikt** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:30 pm

thanks for the input so far...

Torment: while all your suggestions are quality sounds that helped eventually evolve into Dub, DnB & Goa...its more along the lines of early experimental techno & goa from other countries. At least, the first half of your post. was already familiar with Renegade Soundwave & Richard Kirk, but both are very different styles from what I'm looking for. There are some names i love in your list tho so I'll check out the ones im unsure of. They all seem a bit dance-ish tho when compared with Milanese & Boxcutter. I'm looking for something that sounds more like Squarepusher making Dubstep. I would say like Venetian Snares making Dubstep but Sabbath Dubs disapointed me a bit.

Code: Some Minimal Business is the closest to what i was looking for, i think. Perhaps if you mixed Some Minimal Business with white noise & a ragga sample? The rest on the subtle page are a bit too dnb-ish for this particular request, but i already have some of that on my comp for good tunes, thanks :)I also really like that Bop track, but it seems like basically glithcy downbeat. Perhaps that sound with a heavy Dub bass laid on top?

Apologies if i seem overly-specific...I listen to all sorts of sounds & really am saving all of these links & names for my general listening pleasures, but for this particular thread Im looking for tracks for a mix that is already in progress. 'Stoned Space: Experiments in Dub'...I really want to keep one foot firmly planted in Dub sounds while reaching into experimental regions.

Barry Lynn - New Orleans
Kode9 + SpaceApe - Quantum
and Boxcutter - Chiral

are really the best examples of what i'm looking for...any others? many thanks!

juliun_c90 · Post by **juliun_c90** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:44 pm

http://www.discogs.com/release/752158
http://www.discogs.com/release/115723

compiled by none other than kevin 'i'm better known as the bug these days' martin.

ghandi · Post by **ghandi** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:16 pm

Did someone mention early P.I.L? And Jah Wobble?

Check this mix of dub influenced tunes from the late 70s, early 80s:

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=60763

Original Bassline Pressure!

+torment+ · Post by **+torment+** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:29 pm

^ rawk!

you can't have the "new" without knowledge of the past. and that was my point. cheers.

adikt · Post by **adikt** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:52 pm

oh fo sho...i love me some old Dub...I was actually really surprised when I came across some 'new' Dubstep a couple years ago. I only knew 'Dub' as basically Meat Beat Manifesto, Dub Syndicate, Richard Kirk projects, etc...Hallucinogen - In Dub...that kind of thing. That & also the original Reggae 'Dub' sound that i found first. So then in searching for experimental DnB i came across The Bug - Tapping the Conversations which kind of threw my view of electronic music all off.

See, I kind of got bored with DnB for a while, after listening to it since high school. So then i moved towards things like Aphex Twin & u-ziq. So when i find out that the current form of 'Dubstep' sounds very similar ot this experimental style i love...well...i started listening to everything i could. Some of it reminded me of why i became bored with DnB. And some of it blew my fucking mind. So thus I am led to this thread...

Looking for 'Dubstep' that really pushes the boundaries of what Dubstep IS.

At the same time i toss in tracks like Meat Beat - Echo In Space Dub & Linvil Thompson - I love Marijuana. So see, all these suggestions do help, new or old. I like to get the broadest perspective i possibly can & then narrow it down to what im looking for at this particular time.

just to give you an idea, Stoned Space is 38 minutes long so far & already has 19 tracks ranging from unreleased to the 70s. Uses digital AND analog mixing. Uses digital, analog AND live recorded samples. Im really digging in all forms for this one.

My personal goal is to create a seemless mind-fuck that is perfect for my next trip to Wonderland or just sitting back with a spliff, hehehehe...

adikt · Post by **adikt** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:54 pm

and Ghandi...dope mix there. I already have most of those tracks on my comp(Ghost Town by The Specials is even on phone!) but the rest i shall now aquire. Thanks!

Still looking for more tracks like Boxcutter - Chiral

diston · Post by **diston** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:21 pm

check out some mothboy. "the fears" album on ad noiseam and the "anomalies" album on acroplane in particular

adikt · Post by **adikt** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:50 pm

not much from Ad Noiseum that i havnt liked.

knobgoblin · Post by **knobgoblin** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:05 pm

Seriously, I cant recommend Muslimgauze enough. In my top ten list of electronic music out of any genre. His bass sounds on the Hand of Fatima and Sufiq albums blow my mind. His production in general blows my mind. A lot of his stuff is very similar though, and he was ridiculously prolific, releasing nearly 100 albums and EPs, so if you are gonna check his stuff out, I recommend those two albums to start with.

mumble · Post by **mumble** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:45 am

Code wrote:
"Some Minimal Business" by Martsman (LXC Remix)

This track has blown me away !

bedward · Post by **bedward** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:50 pm

to add to the post punk stuff: "Y" (album) by The Pop Group.
mixed by Dennis "Blackbeard" Bovell, experimental punk in a dub styleeeeeee.

if u really want glitchy/noisy/breakcore/etc dubstep-inspired electronica u might like some of Ebola's recent bits.

Dj Scud and I-Sound's Wasteland stuff is pretty good, Amen Fire and that.

and of course, never, ever forget........

The Orb!!!
Towers of Dub and all that.

and, also.... the music known as jungle.

ash med school · Post by **ash med school** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:55 am

Mumble wrote:
Code wrote:
"Some Minimal Business" by Martsman (LXC Remix)

This track has blown me away !

There's loads of top notch music from Martsman. Plenty of audio available here....

www.myspace.com/martsman
www.medschoomusic.com

The man is a machine!!

mcdosian · Post by **mcdosian** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:20 am

OTT has soem crazy psychedelic dub shit goin on.. check out telepath too

freshmc · Post by **freshmc** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:21 pm

go check out Akira Kiteshi, www.myspace.com/technoirbeats

They been doing remixes for Vadz, DZ and other crew

heavy heavy!!!

amala · Post by **amala** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:01 pm

Lusine-crazy awesome deep glitchy sounds, some breaks influence in there too.

Gimmik is another lesser known artist you might like.

Oh, and if you haven't checked him out-Amon Tobin!

adikt · Post by **adikt** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:44 pm

thanks for the input. several things from this thread went directly into the studio mix. still have a few live samples to add & some layering to do in Soundtrack, but I'll have it available um...before the holidays. lol...too much to do right now. On the other end of the spectrum I am playing acoustic Bob Dylan covers live & for a vinyl, soundscaping a Swedish screenplay & getting a classic jazz weekly. And I hate to wander off topic, but if anyone is in the SouthEast US, come check the show that is advertised at the bottom of this post. We will be playing very dubby, glitchy, bassy sounds

Oh yeh, and if anyone has more suggestions, I'll be making more mixes in relevant styles since I've found so much i enjoy. Any input is appreciated. thanks again!

asha.one · Post by **asha.one** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:12 am

crooklyn dub consortium 1- 4, wordsound.
(sampler)
or
quaballah steppers

etc....

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