future of dubstep in the USA?

[parson atx]

and remember its only harrassment if she doesn't like it

[loki]

Dubstep is starting to blow up here in Seattle. We're getting lots of support from the local DnB community here and from the peeps who always bitch about there never being any garage nights, haha. But yeah over the past couple months it's grown from almost nothing to the point where we've got a monthly and there's about 6 DJs that I know of buying heavy amounts of wax where before it was just me lol. I think another few months and we'll have built it to the point that we can bring some headliners through especially if we do a travel share with other cities on the West Coast.

Vinyl cost does limit what I can pick up especially now with so much quality tunage coming out. Personally I'd like to see more unmixed CDs like Benga's Newstep in addition to vinyl releases.

[selector.dub.u]

The audience for this music is growing very quickly it seems to me. If you expect to make money on it though - good luck.


Its all about love for the music.


BTW Where are you buying your vinyl online?

[sindell357]

the way to get a US scene started though would be support US artists and get out of the mentality that its gotta come from england to be true dubstep
that whole mentality kept US jungle down for 10 years

i was thinking the exact same thing crispy.

[parson atx]

sup neen

[loki]

The audience for this music is growing very quickly it seems to me. If you expect to make money on it though - good luck.


Its all about love for the music.


BTW Where are you buying your vinyl online?

Our big local shop here has been getting a decent selection too so I usually hit the local shop first, then what I don't find there I get online. I mostly buy from redeye and boomkat when I do online orders.

And people actually make money doing EDM? Lol, that's news to me!

[selector.dub.u]

The audience for this music is growing very quickly it seems to me. If you expect to make money on it though - good luck.


Its all about love for the music.


BTW Where are you buying your vinyl online?

Our big local shop here has been getting a decent selection too so I usually hit the local shop first, then what I don't find there I get online. I mostly buy from redeye and boomkat when I do online orders.

And people actually make money doing EDM? Lol, that's news to me!

Cool. I usually use redeye as well.
I was wondering where tone.def was buying his vinyl?

[ozeb]

i think everything is movin' along nice as is.

agreed bro.

Damn, this is what I get for sleeping in... way to late in on this thread.

Things ARE moving along nicely. The core elements of success lie in collaboration and communication. As Parson noted, dnb burned us and itself out in so many ways. Promoting dnb can often feel like a fight on a playground or a he said she said game. Rather than embracing differences it seems to have split and factioned in a way that it is eating itself.

We have an opportunity here that only comes around a couple of times for most - I was lucky to be involved in the industry twice before with the same level of energy and potential that I feel now in the progression of dubstep.

If we utilize this energy and the fact that we have such a great forum for sharing information, we can make this work on a continental scale. I have no doubt.

I am very excited to hang with Dave Q next week as East and West come together to discuss this very issue... and drop some killer dubs at the same time

Over here in San Francisco we are working on some big things in the next few months that could cement the genre as a true player in the club scene if we show the parties involved the potential the music has. Once we get the support of a couple of venues under our belt then the rest is communication, negotiation and organization... The people can't help but follow. I mean - have you heard some of this shit? It's fucking awesome.

[sdf3]

the way to get a US scene started though would be support US artists and get out of the mentality that its gotta come from england to be true dubstep
that whole mentality kept US jungle down for 10 years

agreed to a certain extent [hi crispy].

i def think that dubstep [stateside] does not suffer from that
as MUCH as dnb does or once did, at least not yet and hopefully
never . . . but as with anything there is always room for improvement.

also, seems to me that things [stateside] are pretty
healthy, extremely vibrant, and growing almost by the minute.

as for tunes & cds/mp3s vs. vinyl/plates . . .
everyone's pretty much well versed in their own opinions
for it, against it, middle ground, love/hate vinyl/cds/mp3,
etc etc . . . .

whether it be tunes, gear, going to parties, throwing parties,
bringing djs. . . . bottom line is getting into anything like this takes
financial commitment in some way shape or form period.

esp if you really feelin' it.

it's not often you get to be close to the ground
floor when something is just starting to grow, and imo it's
one of the best things to experience/take part in. . so enjoy it!

[edit ps.: i get all my tunes stateside and have pretty much stopped ordering overseas all together]

[showguns]

lots of room for cross-pollination as well.

[dopedragon]

whos down to rent a coach, fill it with bassbins and amps, and tour cross-country just blastin tunes?

spread the low-end theory from the ground up...no chests left unrattled.

we can just creep through cities and pick up regional djs/dancers/russian brides that wanna roll.

brapple bus comin to a neighborhood near you.

[selector.dub.u]

whos down to rent a coach, fill it with bassbins and amps, and tour cross-country just blastin tunes?

spread the low-end theory from the ground up...no chests left unrattled.

we can just creep through cities and pick up regional djs/dancers/russian brides that wanna roll.

brapple bus comin to a neighborhood near you.

lol
that sounds fun--
The big beats and bass, brapple bus. Has to be yellow though- so i can do the dummy retarded

[parson atx]

and its gotta be low so we can scrape and ghostride/skank on the hood

[ozeb]

go dumb dumb dumb

[keith p]

I've been with Garage since its groove chronicles, artfull dodger days and have seen its many transitions. There's almost always a large amount of Dn'B converts making up the fanbase in the states. I surely welcome them, work with them etc. but I think dubstep really needs to move beyond that by pulling in listeners from non "edm" backgrounds as well.

Basically saying that this music can't rely upon the few people out there that remained with electronic focused music since the decline of the rave scene.

No offense intended by any of that.

[sdf3]

I think dubstep really needs to move beyond that by pulling in listeners from non "edm" backgrounds as well.

Basically saying that this music can't rely upon the few people out there that remained with electronic focused music since the decline of the rave scene.

No offense intended by any of that.

.

[ozeb]

Nothing offensive in your statement Keith P... and if the response we are seeing here in SF speaks at all to your point, the sound is reaching folks from all walks of life. My metalhead friends, industrial fans, breaks kids, house heads, hip hoppers, ragga folk - people get it.

I think your point is cruical.

[cede]

exhibit A that there is an audience for dubstep in the USA and people willing to put their money where there mouth is to bring top talent:

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.sw ... 5614756476

Also compare the number of Dubstep events in the US in 2005 and 2006. It's quite a large leap forward. I remember even in NY, dubstep events were few and far between as opposed to what has been established this year, and the people that have come over to play.

Progress is good, it's just a matter of it being sustainable or not.

[joenicedj]

the future.....bright.

[ozeb]

Progress is good, it's just a matter of it being sustainable or not.

Which is directly tied to how we approach it... I'm all about collaboration at a national level - international in fact (Canada my homeland!)

I know that's not a new concept in terms of touring and general expenses but I think it can be utilized at a promotional level as well.