Who thinks zeitgeist is on to something?

[theaccuria]

Best line I heard in relation to 9/11 was: "You belive people who live IN A CAVE did this?"

Thats a bit racist really isn;t it?

Not at all - how is it racist? You've really stumped me there.

[deamonds]

Best line I heard in relation to 9/11 was: "You belive people who live IN A CAVE did this?"

Thats a bit racist really isn;t it?

Not at all - how is it racist? You've really stumped me there.

i thought it was an acronym for the CIA, you know how they do things..

[nousd]

^yeah
like start threads like this
to unearth gullible dupes
whom they soon contact
and have do their bidding.

[beesting]

^yeah
like start threads like this
to unearth gullible dupes
whom they soon contact
and have do their bidding.

You dun' know SD5. Religion, Politics & War are a joke just like the global conspiracy theories that attack them because they rely on each other for validation. While we're all worrying and chatting shit about stuff that can never be proven there's a growing industry making huge profits out of all the accumulated cynicism, fear and hatred. Michael Moore and many others have built their career exposing the so called "lie" but now he needs to peddle that belief to pay his mortgage and feed his fat ass. It's natural for people to want to seek something better and more grand than themselves when they don't know (or won't realize) their own value. Wake up - for better or worse it's all about money - the universally accepted unit of stored energy. Negative or positive it all ends up the same.

[theevilgirl]

i actually find both Zeitgeist Movies very interesting and seemingly accurate.

I mean if 9-11 wasn't staged...HOW would those buildings fall the way they did? The beams melted? really?....let's say they did....there is no way the heat would have traveled so far down to melt nearly the entire building...or even warm up the structure to fall the way it did and even if half the building melted...how would the rest fall?...cuz of the pressure from the top part?...it held on this long the density of the upper portion hasn't changed, just the area it takes up. If it were just merely a plane hitting a building...THAT building...it may have caught fire in a section but there is no way the entire building would fall like that.

Religion - yea i still argue about it with my mother to this day. I have yet to see a miracle of some sort...just coincidence....the only reason people still believe is so that they have a comfort in saying...'this occurred because thats what my God wanted'...its kinda like using this story as an excuse for your faults. Ever notice how when something bad is about to happen people always call on god to help them? cuz they dont believe they will get through it so it comforts them to think someone else will help. or even...when something happens in nature...rather then justifying science, or natural cause...its an act of god. I mean if there really is a God...where is he to help me in my time of need right now?

and Money - When people put value on anything...they immediately become greedy with it, and when people of power have it...they become selfish and they just want more and more, and they will do whatever they can to get it...cuz they have the power and the money. Its funny how we put so much value in this piece of paper, and yes we are slaves to it... Fuckin money.

[neka]

i actually find both Zeitgeist Movies very interesting and seemingly accurate.

I mean if 9-11 wasn't staged...HOW would those buildings fall the way they did? The beams melted? really?....let's say they did....there is no way the heat would have traveled so far down to melt nearly the entire building...or even warm up the structure to fall the way it did and even if half the building melted...how would the rest fall?...cuz of the pressure from the top part?...it held on this long the density of the upper portion hasn't changed, just the area it takes up. If it were just merely a plane hitting a building...THAT building...it may have caught fire in a section but there is no way the entire building would fall like that.

Religion - yea i still argue about it with my mother to this day. I have yet to see a miracle of some sort...just coincidence....the only reason people still believe is so that they have a comfort in saying...'this occurred because thats what my God wanted'...its kinda like using this story as an excuse for your faults. Ever notice how when something bad is about to happen people always call on god to help them? cuz they dont believe they will get through it so it comforts them to think someone else will help. or even...when something happens in nature...rather then justifying science, or natural cause...its an act of god. I mean if there really is a God...where is he to help me in my time of need right now?

and Money - When people put value on anything...they immediately become greedy with it, and when people of power have it...they become selfish and they just want more and more, and they will do whatever they can to get it...cuz they have the power and the money. Its funny how we put so much value in this piece of paper, and yes we are slaves to it... Fuckin money.

oi shh.

[theevilgirl]

oi shh.

[kins83]

i actually find both Zeitgeist Movies very interesting and seemingly accurate.

I mean if 9-11 wasn't staged...HOW would those buildings fall the way they did? The beams melted? really?....let's say they did....there is no way the heat would have traveled so far down to melt nearly the entire building...or even warm up the structure to fall the way it did and even if half the building melted...how would the rest fall?...cuz of the pressure from the top part?...it held on this long the density of the upper portion hasn't changed, just the area it takes up. If it were just merely a plane hitting a building...THAT building...it may have caught fire in a section but there is no way the entire building would fall like that.

Do you mind me asking what experience or education in the construction industry you have to come to that conclusion?

[elbe]

never seen the films but 9/11 was a terroist attack, accept it.

Religion is much more that a comfort blanket for a lot of people. People believe because faith plays a large part in many peoples lives.

Money, what is money, it is a vlue we put on things, this is human nature, we all put value into objects/food/shelter/whatever. Money dosn't lead to greed. We need to trade, to trade you have to put a value on what you are trading.

[beesting]

And on and on and on it goes...

The guys building the death star probably didn't know what it was gonna be used for did they, they just got paid and hoped the rebels wouldn't attack before their shift ended.

Oh no, I'm getting drawn to it all in again! - LOGS OUT, EXITS, SWITCHES OFF COMPUTER...

[hackman]

never seen the films but 9/11 was a terroist attack, accept it.

bruv, your entitled to your opinion but you should really watch it before you come to that conclusion

[elbe]

never seen the films but 9/11 was a terroist attack, accept it.

bruv, your entitled to your opinion but you should really watch it before you come to that conclusion

why? I was ufortunate enough to be able to watch the actuall event happen.

[theaccuria]

Still no one has picked up about WTC building 7.

That wasnt even hit by ANYTHING. And did you see the way that collapsed? They explain perfectly in Zeitgeist alone how it looks like a controlled demolition. It's also the first steel/iron building in history to collpase from fire damage.

Sorry, "fire" damage.

[theevilgirl]

i actually find both Zeitgeist Movies very interesting and seemingly accurate.

I mean if 9-11 wasn't staged...HOW would those buildings fall the way they did? The beams melted? really?....let's say they did....there is no way the heat would have traveled so far down to melt nearly the entire building...or even warm up the structure to fall the way it did and even if half the building melted...how would the rest fall?...cuz of the pressure from the top part?...it held on this long the density of the upper portion hasn't changed, just the area it takes up. If it were just merely a plane hitting a building...THAT building...it may have caught fire in a section but there is no way the entire building would fall like that.

Do you mind me asking what experience or education in the construction industry you have to come to that conclusion?

ive worked on my dads construction sites....he used to build on ground level in buildings in manhattan....

and its sensible i mean ...the steel posts would most likely protrude outword rather than fall straight down.... this is my theory...

[beesting]

POW!

[theevilgirl]

and i have also seen imploded buildings LIVE in front of my face not on video...and they look identical!

[deamonds]

yes 9/11 was a conspiracy....zeitgeist has proved this...it is 100% correct, in every way

[deamonds]

even if it was true what the fuck are you lot going to do about it...

nothing, that's what, nothing...

so get fucking real & start posting some shit jokes for fucks sake

[kins83]

i actually find both Zeitgeist Movies very interesting and seemingly accurate.

I mean if 9-11 wasn't staged...HOW would those buildings fall the way they did? The beams melted? really?....let's say they did....there is no way the heat would have traveled so far down to melt nearly the entire building...or even warm up the structure to fall the way it did and even if half the building melted...how would the rest fall?...cuz of the pressure from the top part?...it held on this long the density of the upper portion hasn't changed, just the area it takes up. If it were just merely a plane hitting a building...THAT building...it may have caught fire in a section but there is no way the entire building would fall like that.

Do you mind me asking what experience or education in the construction industry you have to come to that conclusion?

ive worked on my dads construction sites....he used to build on ground level in buildings in manhattan....

and its sensible i mean ...the steel posts would most likely protrude outword rather than fall straight down.... this is my theory...

Haha, POW! As was said above. Still, I've done a fair bit of labouring in my time, and I know next to nothing about building construction.

But I do believe that if the top few floors of a large sky scraper were to collapse, then the sheer mass of the top section falling down onto the rest of it, combined with momentum and accelaration under the force of gravity, would cause the building to collapse vertically, which would no doubt look like a controlled demolition.

I think we're probably going to go around in circles with this. I think the conspiracy theories are a fucking joke, and you probably consider me to be a dismissive prick. I guess we are both sticking to what we believe in, which for me is physics and some faith in humanity.

[deamonds]

faith in humanity.

now that is some bullshit