Little hip hop help please

djelements · Post by **djelements** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:34 pm

mattron wrote:
ytee wrote:Cage
El-p
Mr.Lif
Company Flow
why don't we just finish this, and say all of Definitive Jux.

DEF JUX
STONES THROW
ANYBODY ROCKIN QUES ART
The end.

echo wanderer · Post by **echo wanderer** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:40 pm

sarnian wrote:Krs is responsible for so much good hip-hop. His flow may be simplistic, but he has the voice and mic presence that many that have been mentioned here sadly lack.

Plus,he was really one of the first to bring the reggae toasting flow back to hiphop,since hiphop was invented by a reggae dj in the first place.After him came the likes of Phife(ATQC),Fu Shnickens,Snow(don't hate - "12 Inches Of Snow" was a dope reggae album,even a lot of my yardie mates loved it),Das FX,Buster Rhymes(in LONS,not so much after he became "Busta"),etc. rapping in patois.BDP and his solo stuff will be there long after Nas.believe that!

sarnian · Post by **sarnian** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:41 pm

ericssoftbrain wrote:Can anyone recommend me any good conscious hip hop artists with decent intelligent lyrics. Would be much appreciated. No gangsta shit please.

did people actually read the original post? How anyone can say Cage (and quite a few others) is pretty incredible as he is the anithesis of the the type of artists the guy wants to be recommended.

diss04 · Post by **diss04** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:24 pm

Echo Wanderer wrote:
sarnian wrote:Krs is responsible for so much good hip-hop. His flow may be simplistic, but he has the voice and mic presence that many that have been mentioned here sadly lack.
Plus,he was really one of the first to bring the reggae toasting flow back to hiphop,since hiphop was invented by a reggae dj in the first place.After him came the likes of Phife(ATQC),Fu Shnickens,Snow(don't hate - "12 Inches Of Snow" was a dope reggae album,even a lot of my yardie mates loved it),Das FX,Buster Rhymes(in LONS,not so much after he became "Busta"),etc. rapping in patois.BDP and his solo stuff will be there long after Nas.believe that!

illmatic nas over boogie down productions any day imo, but hey i'm young, white and english so what do i know about REAL hip hop, right?

plus they were called Das EFX

echo wanderer · Post by **echo wanderer** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:11 pm

Diss04 wrote:
Echo Wanderer wrote:
sarnian wrote:Krs is responsible for so much good hip-hop. His flow may be simplistic, but he has the voice and mic presence that many that have been mentioned here sadly lack.
Plus,he was really one of the first to bring the reggae toasting flow back to hiphop,since hiphop was invented by a reggae dj in the first place.After him came the likes of Phife(ATQC),Fu Shnickens,Snow(don't hate - "12 Inches Of Snow" was a dope reggae album,even a lot of my yardie mates loved it),Das FX,Buster Rhymes(in LONS,not so much after he became "Busta"),etc. rapping in patois.BDP and his solo stuff will be there long after Nas.believe that!
illmatic nas over boogie down productions any day imo, but hey i'm young, white and english so what do i know about REAL hip hop, right?

plus they were called Das EFX

Yeah..I realised after the fact that I missed an 'E'.No bigs.

I never said I don't appreciate Nas.I just think the whole "Jay Z fued blah blah blah" proved him to be as much a sellout as Jay Z himself.And he hasn't really said anything that KRS,PE,NWA,or even Brand Nubian haven't already said before.

But what do I know.I'm just a mid-30s,mixed,American who saw quite a bit of hiphop's evolution.

echo wanderer · Post by **echo wanderer** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:15 pm

Echo Wanderer wrote:
Yeah..I realised after the fact that I missed an 'E'.No bigs.

Well...it might have been a big deal back in '89/90.

datura · Post by **datura** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:31 pm

And Nas has only made one great album..

diss04 · Post by **diss04** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:47 pm

datura wrote:And Nas has only made one great album..

he made one great album (stillmatic) and one amazing album

oh and fueds dont make sellouts (2pac v big et al)

datura · Post by **datura** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:53 pm

Diss04 wrote:
datura wrote:And Nas has only made one great album..
he made one great album (stillmatic) and one amazing album

oh and fueds dont make sellouts (2pac v big et al)

stillmatic a great album?? lol, ok. It had maybe 2/3 good tracks.

Fueds don't make sell outs, but making albums like the Firm do.

sola perplexus · Post by **sola perplexus** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:07 pm

ericssoftbrain wrote:Can anyone recommend me any good conscious hip hop artists with decent intelligent lyrics. Would be much appreciated. No gangsta shit please.

you might enjoy our album, (Double Helix 'Future Proof'). You can get a free promo mix from http://www.audiodacity.co.uk, or can buy the album from various record shops and sites, including direct from http://www.nu-urbanmusic.co.uk/shop/pro ... _id=11393.

its not strictly straight up hiphop, but has healthy bass and loads of interesting+often abstract lyrics, (our mc reads a lot of New Scientist etc, is fascinated with human evolution, the future and science fiction... and has a heart), the music fuses dubstep with numerous electronic influences... We've been lucky enough to have had airplay from MAH+others on Radio 1 in the past.

note:we are the Double Helix from Edinburgh, not the Double Helix from London LHF crew that you may be aware of, just to avoid any confusion:)

echo wanderer · Post by **echo wanderer** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:15 pm

datura wrote:
Diss04 wrote:
oh and fueds dont make sellouts (2pac v big et al)
Fueds don't make sell outs, but making albums like the Firm do.

After 2Pac and Biggie,feuds became mainstream,due to the fact that (as Pac and Biggie proved) that record sales increase over the excitement of the feud.Therefore,it became the sellout thing to do.That and

But yeah....what Dat said too.I lulzd.

echo wanderer · Post by **echo wanderer** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:22 pm

sola perplexus wrote:
ericssoftbrain wrote:Can anyone recommend me any good conscious hip hop artists with decent intelligent lyrics. Would be much appreciated. No gangsta shit please.
you might enjoy our album, (Double Helix 'Future Proof'). You can get a free promo mix from http://www.audiodacity.co.uk, or can buy the album from various record shops and sites, including direct from http://www.nu-urbanmusic.co.uk/shop/pro ... _id=11393.

its not strictly straight up hiphop, but has healthy bass and loads of interesting+often abstract lyrics, (our mc reads a lot of New Scientist etc, is fascinated with human evolution, the future and science fiction... and has a heart), the music fuses dubstep with numerous electronic influences... We've been lucky enough to have had airplay from MAH+others on Radio 1 in the past.

note:we are the Double Helix from Edinburgh, not the Double Helix from London LHF crew that you may be aware of, just to avoid any confusion:)

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... fb08f9fdd3

.rudetone. · Post by **.rudetone.** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:23 pm

Theres about a million to mention but Aesop Rock is an intensely good example!

adikt · Post by **adikt** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:42 am

Definitive Jux
Stones Throw
Anticon

these record labels fucking run shit.

Dublab
Souljazz
Brainfeeder

the fucking future.

a combination of all these will force evolution

eophonic · Post by **eophonic** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:30 am

mathmatik

ugly duckling

M.O.P.

(last one was jokes)

azair · Post by **azair** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:15 am

Hi there.

Steady B, Madlib, Madvillain, Souls of Mischief, Pharaohe Monch, MF Doom Wu-Tang Clan and Roots Manuva is just what I got on mind right now, you should check them out.

Take care!

solphy · Post by **solphy** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:50 am

datura wrote:And Nas has only made one great album..

how about it was written?

diss04 · Post by **diss04** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:35 pm

Solphy wrote:
datura wrote:And Nas has only made one great album..
how about it was written?

i am... is better than that

diss04 · Post by **diss04** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:35 pm

datura wrote:
Diss04 wrote:
datura wrote:And Nas has only made one great album..
he made one great album (stillmatic) and one amazing album

oh and fueds dont make sellouts (2pac v big et al)
stillmatic a great album?? lol, ok. It had maybe 2/3 good tracks.

Fueds don't make sell outs, but making albums like the Firm do.

lol yeah the firm was a shitty album, i'll admit

bunjcore · Post by **bunjcore** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:30 pm

If you like your wacked out art school hip hop cLOUDDEAD's self titled albums is still one of the most complete album's of any genre I know of. Why? and Dose's lyrics and delivery are closer to performance poets than your standard hip hop flow tho.

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