A little help please making dubstep.

grimez · Post by **grimez** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:12 am

Ok so im fully new to this hole dubstep thing but ive gotten into it as of recent and im a dnb producer looking to dip into a bit of dubstep.

So my question is hows it done.
I have herd kick on the first snare on the third and i get what people are talking about but ive also been told about some kind of time streching.

Please someone inlightin and ignorant basterd

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:06 pm

Down load some mixes from bare files and analyze them.

grimez · Post by **grimez** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:13 pm

metalboxproducts wrote:Down load some mixes from bare files and analyze them.

Thanks man i was really kinda just wonderind about the time streching thing i was told about, have you herd of this being done?

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:45 pm

Time streching is used in a lot of music. Its not really typical of dubstep. I think there may be a liitle confusion here about terms. I think what your talking about is half time. Which is were you put a 1bar beat over 2 bars of time, for instance. This is not time streching. When people use the term time streching they are usuelly talking about a technique were by you take a piace of audio and use a tool to strech or compress the duration of it ,depending on what you want to do, with out altering the pitch. It also works the other way around. You can alter the pitch without effecting the duration.

Half time is easy to achieve in any sequencer. Rather than having the Kick on the first beat and the hi hat on the 8th (half way between the 1st and 2nd beat) and the snare on the second beat, you may put the hi hat on the 2nd beat and the snare on the 3rd beat. There by achieving what is known as hlftime/step. You can then experiment away until you have rythem you like.
I hope i haven't been to confusing or patronizing and hope this is of some help.

grimez · Post by **grimez** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:51 pm

metalboxproducts wrote:Time streching is used in a lot of music. Its not really typical of dubstep. I think there may be a liitle confusion here about terms. I think what your talking about is half time. Which is were you put a 1bar beat over 2 bars of time, for instance. This is not time streching. When people use the term time streching they are usuelly talking about a technique were by you take a piace of audio and use a tool to strech or compress the duration of it ,depending on what you want to do, with out altering the pitch. It also works the other way around. You can alter the pitch without effecting the duration.

Half time is easy to achieve in any sequencer. Rather than having the Kick on the first beat and the hi hat on the 8th (half way between the 1st and 2nd beat) and the snare on the second beat, you may put the hi hat on the 2nd beat and the snare on the 3rd beat. There by achieving what is known as hlftime/step. You can then experiment away until you have rythem you like.
I hope i haven't been to confusing or patronizing and hope this is of some help.

any and all help is much appreciated.

And whats a good program for time streching?

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:59 pm

What are you using? Most sequencers have a time strech facility. Peak is a good alround stereo file editer.

grimez · Post by **grimez** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:00 pm

metalboxproducts wrote:What are you using? Most sequencers have a time strech facility. Peak is a good alround stereo file editer.

3.0
cubase sx
sound fourge 8
acid pro
recylce

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:05 pm

I don't use any of those programs, cubase has the function though, i just don't where you would find it. Im pretty sure you can strech on the other programs aswell.

grimez · Post by **grimez** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:28 pm

metalboxproducts wrote:I don't use any of those programs, cubase has the function though, i just don't where you would find it. Im pretty sure you can strech on the other programs aswell.

Thanks for the help man.

autonomic · Post by **autonomic** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:51 pm

lots of SWING!

it's good to listen early dubstep like horsepower, or the 2step that came before to get a sense of how the swing, syncopation and triplets are working. even if it's not prominent, it's the underlying structure of the best current dubtep (and totally missing from the worst).

nunfiddler · Post by **nunfiddler** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:51 am

also wanting to getting into producing dubstep after djing techno,breaks, d and b for few yrs. wondering about getting me some hardware as i wanna get a set up as well as ableton....already got a Jomox x base 900 and a korg kp3 which have LFOs and filters but wondering what would be the best way to get that real bass heavy dubstep sound before adding the effects...got my bass guitar set up to,but cant play that for shit since i discovered 1210,s

Hide_One · Post by **Hide_One** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:44 pm

For timestretching in cubase:

Easy way-
Double click object selection (the little arrow/pointer box at top of screen) click sizing applys time stretch and size the sample to how your want it.

Or-
Find the tempo of the sample (project>beat calculator) double click sample, hit the musical note key (next to warp settings) enter tempo, hit warp setting and select (drums, vocals, pads etc.) then when you change tempo the track will be locked with it.

If u mean crazy proper timestreched drawn out things tho then cubase usually makes a meal out of it (unless its pitched down alot), so i use Dblue Glitch (google it if u want it) which gets some good results.

sammytee · Post by **sammytee** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:17 pm

autonomic wrote:lots of SWING!

it's good to listen early dubstep like horsepower, or the 2step that came before to get a sense of how the swing, syncopation and triplets are working. even if it's not prominent, it's the underlying structure of the best current dubtep (and totally missing from the worst).

what a great statement, fills me with reassurance... not that i know 2 much about these artists u speak of
nor I need much reassurance as these styles are being clearly demonstrated by lots of great dubstep producers emerging from all over the globe!

big up

myspace.com/essteeuk

sorry about the off topic

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:23 pm

This threads over 2 years old.

fixation · Post by **fixation** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:02 pm

nunfiddler wrote:what would be the best way to get that real bass heavy dubstep sound before adding the effects...got my bass guitar set up to,but cant play that for shit since i discovered 1210,s

get a recorder, throw it down the stairs, then play it in reverse through a shoe, should give some big bass

mandark · Post by **mandark** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:38 pm

get a recorder, throw it down the stairs, then play it in reverse through a shoe, should give some big bass

Seconded.[/u]

nunfiddler · Post by **nunfiddler** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:50 am

i seen maxwell smart killing it with the shoe at a warehouse party on Hackney road in 1978

deafdubz · Post by **deafdubz** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:02 am

its al about the swing aye

statelapse · Post by **statelapse** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:44 am

Fixation wrote:
nunfiddler wrote:what would be the best way to get that real bass heavy dubstep sound before adding the effects...got my bass guitar set up to,but cant play that for shit since i discovered 1210,s
get a recorder, throw it down the stairs, then play it in reverse through a shoe, should give some big bass

GENIUS!!! HAHA

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