Attention to Frequencies
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Every single sound has its own unique freq - you cannot formulize it with a set EQ. You have to EQ every sound seperatly on the fly.  I dont allways put eq on as soon as i add to the mix tho. I try to find sounds that work dry together - then start sharpening up with eq's after it allready sounds good. To a degree there is formular - cut freq's that arnt used to gain headroom and boost ones that tickle the ear.
EQ for club play straight from your studio for most small-time producers is a tricky business! I have learnt alot from hearing my tracks on big systems. Taken mental notes as to what works /what doesnt/how much mixer eq did i need to cut or boost to get the impact and clarity etc.. Hearing your stuff on big rigs gives you feedback on what the big rig sounds like and you'll reference it in your brain when writing.
			
			
									
									
						EQ for club play straight from your studio for most small-time producers is a tricky business! I have learnt alot from hearing my tracks on big systems. Taken mental notes as to what works /what doesnt/how much mixer eq did i need to cut or boost to get the impact and clarity etc.. Hearing your stuff on big rigs gives you feedback on what the big rig sounds like and you'll reference it in your brain when writing.
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well it goes like this
i like the most nastyest sounds so what i do is:
i use predator by rod papen btw
in predator use the envelope too make the sound coz lfo cuts the end of the sound out and i found some sound waves sound good wiv lfo and some sound good without ... so set you rates at this
attack: 100 ms
decay: 230 ms
sustain: 0 ms
release: 20 ms (so it dont make a clip noise)
then put your notes in also make the decay longer n shorter save the diferent patches so you have a vary of the sound to swith up your next verse
also heres an idea
put slight reverb on your bass and it will sound nice i found this out by using reverb on heavy drums
so use it on the bass too
on the preator you have a built in effects unit where you can have 3 diff effect runnin at once
it also has 3x osc BASICALY GET PREDATOR
yh i use lo-fi to reduce sample rate that will emulate bar 9's duck hunter bass
then use the waveshaper (also on predator effects)
and then u can really effect it rawness
To make a nice dirty sub bass jus follow this (if you can)
a good thing to use also is a nice sub bass (sine)
then set another bass with just the mid freq (use the spectrum anylizer to see where the sub bass is losing power ( i mean where the frequancy of the sub dies out)
then set the envelopes too
attack: 200 ms or 300 ms vary it with 2 pathes for unique sounding bass
decay: 100 ms
sustain: 0 ms
release 50 ms
use the eq to boost mid freq with the other bass u make
and then compress the sub bass and do the same to the raw bass
but when you do this set the levels of the raw bass a bit lower than you need to make it sound like a dirty sub
any other help need just add me on myspace or pm me n ill give you as much advice as i can to make your bass too much for you head
peace
			
			
									
									
						i like the most nastyest sounds so what i do is:
i use predator by rod papen btw
in predator use the envelope too make the sound coz lfo cuts the end of the sound out and i found some sound waves sound good wiv lfo and some sound good without ... so set you rates at this
attack: 100 ms
decay: 230 ms
sustain: 0 ms
release: 20 ms (so it dont make a clip noise)
then put your notes in also make the decay longer n shorter save the diferent patches so you have a vary of the sound to swith up your next verse
also heres an idea
put slight reverb on your bass and it will sound nice i found this out by using reverb on heavy drums
so use it on the bass too
on the preator you have a built in effects unit where you can have 3 diff effect runnin at once
it also has 3x osc BASICALY GET PREDATOR
yh i use lo-fi to reduce sample rate that will emulate bar 9's duck hunter bass
then use the waveshaper (also on predator effects)
and then u can really effect it rawness
To make a nice dirty sub bass jus follow this (if you can)
a good thing to use also is a nice sub bass (sine)
then set another bass with just the mid freq (use the spectrum anylizer to see where the sub bass is losing power ( i mean where the frequancy of the sub dies out)
then set the envelopes too
attack: 200 ms or 300 ms vary it with 2 pathes for unique sounding bass
decay: 100 ms
sustain: 0 ms
release 50 ms
use the eq to boost mid freq with the other bass u make
and then compress the sub bass and do the same to the raw bass
but when you do this set the levels of the raw bass a bit lower than you need to make it sound like a dirty sub
any other help need just add me on myspace or pm me n ill give you as much advice as i can to make your bass too much for you head
peace
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Ahhhhh shiyt. If only you'd posted that 17 years ago, I could have saved myself so much trouble 
			
			
									
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if i was born then i would be smackin out the whomp whomp whompMacc wrote:
Ahhhhh shiyt. If only you'd posted that 17 years ago, I could have saved myself so much trouble
if only i had the internet and known of production forums when i first started
would have saved so much trial and error
hahahahaaha
yeah if n e thin else u want or think i missed on my little tutorial then ask
peace
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wanna add/revise to this http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=67507 with some of that man?dark elixir wrote:if i was born then i would be smackin out the whomp whomp whompMacc wrote:
Ahhhhh shiyt. If only you'd posted that 17 years ago, I could have saved myself so much trouble
if only i had the internet and known of production forums when i first started
would have saved so much trial and error
hahahahaaha
yeah if n e thin else u want or think i missed on my little tutorial then ask
peace
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I have no idea what that means.dark elixir wrote: if i was born then i would be smackin out the whomp whomp whomp
hahahahaaha
1 - knowledgeyeah if n e thin else u want or think i missed on my little tutorial then ask
peace
2 - experience
3 - truth
4- not being an advert for predator
Other than that it was spot on.
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yea if i get the time/have the patience i'm debating doing a synthesis guide with sound clips etc in as a generic/basic way as possible instead of synth/plugin specific.dark elixir wrote:yeah thanks bro
also another good subject for bass is knowing the waveforms that go together
i like half sine and square with distortion the add some saturation, reverb and e.q
figure while i wait for a new hard drive in the mail i can try to post something useful instead of just wasting time on forums.
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The Predator tutorial is very useful for some people I am sure, thanks.
But what's it got to do wth the thread?
			
			
									
									But what's it got to do wth the thread?
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