How did you go from Producing to DJ'ing?

kidlogic · Post by **kidlogic** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:51 pm

D+ wrote: if you dont fancy turntables and vinly then theres the serato/traktor option which will set you back 350. but remember youll still need the decks and mixer whatever route you choose.

You can use Serato without decks... but it kinda defeats the purpose of spending all that money for it when you can get free software that does the same thing. Serato is meant as vinyl emulation using turntables.

youre a glorified bedroom music listener. but then again... arent we alll? lul.

No. A good DJ is much much more than just a glorified listener.

manray · Post by **manray** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:46 pm

Being a good DJ is a bit more than matching a beat and fading it in and out.

Some people take to it naturally and others have to work hard on it. Personally for me it was a bit of a accident. I used to play around at a friends house and then one day I just tried matching the beats and surprised that i was able to do it. I decided to pickup some decks after that and pretty soon I had it locked down. Still it does take years of practise to be a very good DJ, talking about having the whole tune mixed if you want and walking out the door to make a sandwich and come back sort of thing.

manray · Post by **manray** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:48 pm

sapphic_beats wrote:
Truncated wrote: which is a shame becuase dj'ing is where the money is in this minimal money sub industry.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

oh...you were being serious?

It's probably how most dubstep producers make some sort of a living these days. Quite hard just on sales alone.....

FSTZ1 · Post by **FSTZ1** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:49 pm

there is money in music???

for every $1000 invested, expect about a 10% return

FSTZ1 · Post by **FSTZ1** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:50 pm

ok ok...

thats not completely true

I make some money, but it takes alot to get to that point

truncated · Post by **truncated** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:26 pm

never said there was alot of money, was merely saying if you are doing this to make money dj'ing will bring in more than making tunes.

back in the old days when i didn't care about being legal it was all 100% profit

abZ · Post by **abZ** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:58 pm

Truncated wrote:never said there was alot of money, was merely saying if you are doing this to make money dj'ing will bring in more than making tunes.

back in the old days when i didn't care about being legal it was all 100% profit

Ya can't get no gigs unless you make tunes so it kinda goes hand in hand imo. As far as I am concerned I don't think I'll ever make back a fraction of the money I have put into the whole thing. Doesn't really matter, I enjoy it.

truncated · Post by **truncated** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:23 am

abZ wrote:
Truncated wrote:never said there was alot of money, was merely saying if you are doing this to make money dj'ing will bring in more than making tunes.

back in the old days when i didn't care about being legal it was all 100% profit
Ya can't get no gigs unless you make tunes so it kinda goes hand in hand imo. As far as I am concerned I don't think I'll ever make back a fraction of the money I have put into the whole thing. Doesn't really matter, I enjoy it.

true im more talking about the d&b side of things becuase thats more what i know.

i could think of worse things to spend your money on!

abZ · Post by **abZ** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:15 am

Truncated wrote:
abZ wrote:
Truncated wrote:never said there was alot of money, was merely saying if you are doing this to make money dj'ing will bring in more than making tunes.

back in the old days when i didn't care about being legal it was all 100% profit
Ya can't get no gigs unless you make tunes so it kinda goes hand in hand imo. As far as I am concerned I don't think I'll ever make back a fraction of the money I have put into the whole thing. Doesn't really matter, I enjoy it.
true im more talking about the d&b side of things becuase thats more what i know.

i could think of worse things to spend your money on!

Even with DNB. I have a DNB weekly here and we book big namers for dirt. Except for a handful of the obvious artists, I don't believe anyone is doing this shit for a living. If they are they prolly aren't living too good!

armada · Post by **armada** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:36 pm

abZ wrote:
Ya can't get no gigs unless you make tunes so it kinda goes hand in hand imo. As far as I am concerned I don't think I'll ever make back a fraction of the money I have put into the whole thing. Doesn't really matter, I enjoy it.

Oneman gets gigs and he doesnt make tunes or go around finding the freshest tracks. hes simply a badman DJ.

djshiva · Post by **djshiva** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 5:53 pm

armada wrote:
abZ wrote:
Ya can't get no gigs unless you make tunes so it kinda goes hand in hand imo. As far as I am concerned I don't think I'll ever make back a fraction of the money I have put into the whole thing. Doesn't really matter, I enjoy it.
Oneman gets gigs and he doesnt make tunes or go around finding the freshest tracks. hes simply a badman DJ.

that's refreshing. i think it is a shame that so many people start producing to get dj gigs. no offense to anyone, but that has always seemed to be the reason for some really bad tunes in various genres. not every dj is a good producer, and not every producer is a good dj.

i played various instruments first, then started djing. didn't start producing until years after, specifically because i didn't want to do it just to get dj gigs. i waited til i felt i had something to say/express with my music. i still don't produce that much because it can bore the living shit out of me. i prefer the instant gratification of djing.

Disco Nutter · Post by **Disco Nutter** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:31 pm

I never actually picked up dj-ing. Always seemed kinda fun to do though, should try sometime

abZ · Post by **abZ** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:43 pm

sapphic_beats wrote:
armada wrote:
abZ wrote:
Ya can't get no gigs unless you make tunes so it kinda goes hand in hand imo. As far as I am concerned I don't think I'll ever make back a fraction of the money I have put into the whole thing. Doesn't really matter, I enjoy it.
Oneman gets gigs and he doesnt make tunes or go around finding the freshest tracks. hes simply a badman DJ.
that's refreshing. i think it is a shame that so many people start producing to get dj gigs. no offense to anyone, but that has always seemed to be the reason for some really bad tunes in various genres. not every dj is a good producer, and not every producer is a good dj.

i played various instruments first, then started djing. didn't start producing until years after, specifically because i didn't want to do it just to get dj gigs. i waited til i felt i had something to say/express with my music. i still don't produce that much because it can bore the living shit out of me. i prefer the instant gratification of djing.

I have never even heard of Oneman. Kinda shocking he has it like that and I don't know about him.

It is kind of a fucked up situation Shiv I agree. It didn't used to be like that. Nowaday you have a lot of people making shit tunes to get gigs and good producers trainwrecking everynight to get by. Either way it dilutes the scene imo. But then there is another group that I'd like to think I am in where you are pretty dedicated to both and then running a label and promoting nights, etc. Too much for one person to deal with. Downsizing is a bitch!

james fox · Post by **james fox** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:19 am

D+ wrote:dont bother with cd's they feel and sound cheap and tacky.

disagree. nice loud wavs will still be sounding good in 5 years when your records are scratched and worn.

i'm flogging a dead horse here, i know

kidlogic · Post by **kidlogic** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:02 am

james fox wrote:
D+ wrote:dont bother with cd's they feel and sound cheap and tacky.
disagree. nice loud wavs will still be sounding good in 5 years when your records are scratched and worn.

i'm flogging a dead horse here, i know

Its not the .wavs he said sound cheap and tacky

they sound great on Serato.

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:35 am

lol i started as a listener of multi genres
then went to a "live show" of atari teenage riot saw alec on decks and went from there
from hc to hhc to jungl/jump up to dnb and to dubstep etc
plus always nice to mix your own tunes with shit you dig

jasonk1234 · Post by **jasonk1234** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:04 pm

if your really serious about it just go out and buy some tables. I used to borrow my friends tables but eventually had to go out and buy my own.

kidlogic · Post by **kidlogic** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:17 am

nate_day wrote:

Its not the .wavs he said sound cheap and tacky

they sound great on Serato.[/quote]

haha i wonder how many people burn mp3's to cd because they think cds are better than serato.[/quote]

I know people who do this.

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